SLP's NEW GTO cat-back ~ PHOTOS ~
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SLP's NEW GTO cat-back ~ PHOTOS ~
We finished our prototype cat-back exhaust system for the GTO. Here are the basics:
Now - more importantly, this is just the prototype . Parts will not be ready for shipment until summer. We need to receive the raw materials and build the production systems, which will take some time. Please be patient as we hustle to bring these products to market - I can promise they are worth the wait
Best regards -
Brian
Now - more importantly, this is just the prototype . Parts will not be ready for shipment until summer. We need to receive the raw materials and build the production systems, which will take some time. Please be patient as we hustle to bring these products to market - I can promise they are worth the wait
Best regards -
Brian
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Why replace a perfectly good exhaust?
I don't see the sense in replacing the stock exhaust, which sounds magnificent, is plenty loud, and probably does not restrict the power of the engine significantly. As we all know, Pontiac and Holden engineers spent hundreds of hours tuning the exhaust to get it just right. This sounds like replacing the exhaust simply for the sake of replacement. I doubt that you will gain any significant horsepower, at the expense of having a cruder sound. But, as we said in the Sixties, do your thing . . .
Originally Posted by SLP
We finished our prototype cat-back exhaust system for the GTO. Here are the basics:
Now - more importantly, this is just the prototype . Parts will not be ready for shipment until summer. We need to receive the raw materials and build the production systems, which will take some time. Please be patient as we hustle to bring these products to market - I can promise they are worth the wait
Best regards -
Brian
Now - more importantly, this is just the prototype . Parts will not be ready for shipment until summer. We need to receive the raw materials and build the production systems, which will take some time. Please be patient as we hustle to bring these products to market - I can promise they are worth the wait
Best regards -
Brian
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Wow, someone signed up just to reply to that.
Got any sound clips of the exhaust? I think the GTO could sound
a little bit better. Stock is great, but some people don't like to sound
like everyone else.
Got any sound clips of the exhaust? I think the GTO could sound
a little bit better. Stock is great, but some people don't like to sound
like everyone else.
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Originally Posted by PendragonZ
Wow, someone signed up just to reply to that.
Got any sound clips of the exhaust? I think the GTO could sound
a little bit better. Stock is great, but some people don't like to sound
like everyone else.
Got any sound clips of the exhaust? I think the GTO could sound
a little bit better. Stock is great, but some people don't like to sound
like everyone else.
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Originally Posted by Miguelius
I don't see the sense in replacing the stock exhaust, which sounds magnificent, is plenty loud, and probably does not restrict the power of the engine significantly. As we all know, Pontiac and Holden engineers spent hundreds of hours tuning the exhaust to get it just right. This sounds like replacing the exhaust simply for the sake of replacement. I doubt that you will gain any significant horsepower, at the expense of having a cruder sound. But, as we said in the Sixties, do your thing . . .
Well, I too have heard GM and Holden spend hundreds of hours developing a muffler . I also read that they modeled and tested hundreds of mufflers . I thought, wow, maybe we can learn something here. As fast as we could, we cut open one of these ultra-special mufflers to see what the result was.
Fellas, I think we've been duped by the marketing group at GM.
The inside of the muffler is the most basic design possible, hardly something worth bragging about, let alone even admitting to have consumed hundreds of hours of engineering and testing. A perforated tube surrounded by insulation . The aftermarket has used this technology for 50 some years . See attached photo.
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Originally Posted by Miguelius
I don't see the sense in replacing the stock exhaust, which sounds magnificent, is plenty loud, and probably does not restrict the power of the engine significantly. As we all know, Pontiac and Holden engineers spent hundreds of hours tuning the exhaust to get it just right. This sounds like replacing the exhaust simply for the sake of replacement. I doubt that you will gain any significant horsepower, at the expense of having a cruder sound. But, as we said in the Sixties, do your thing . . .
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Originally Posted by SLP
The inside of the muffler is the most basic design possible, hardly something worth bragging about, let alone even admitting to have consumed hundreds of hours of engineering and testing.
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Originally Posted by SLP
The inside of the muffler is the most basic design possible, hardly something worth bragging about, let alone even admitting to have consumed hundreds of hours of engineering and testing. A perforated tube surrounded by insulation . The aftermarket has used this technology for 50 some years .
Let's see some cutaways of those SLP mufflers... I bet they look exactly the same with the only difference being less sound deadening material. Although, the X-pipe could be a selling point for some, the REAL advantage you are getting with an aftermarket system is DECIBELS.
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Thanks for watching my back, Grooves. Jeez, I question whether it's really worth messing with an already great sounding exhaust (love to blast through the tunnels with it--and try that Porsche Cayenne commercial thing with playing the exhaust over the cell phone), and some guys question my credentials as a card-carrying car freak. Hey, it's one thing to truly increase the power with real modifications--more power to you--but I just doubt that the effort (and money) is worth it with the exhaust. Now headers, that might be different . . .
Originally Posted by grooves12
Well, I remember all the articles I read saying that GM did a lot of testing and tuning of the exhaust to get the SOUND right, not necessarrilly performance. But, the post-cat exhaust on this vehicle is probably one of the best systems GM has used in many years. TRUE duals, and free-flowing mufflers. I don't think those SLP pictures did anything to show that GM's muffler design is in any way inferior... in fact I think it proved that it is a pretty good design to begin with.
Let's see some cutaways of those SLP mufflers... I bet they look exactly the same with the only difference being less sound deadening material. Although, the X-pipe could be a selling point for some, the REAL advantage you are getting with an aftermarket system is DECIBELS.
Let's see some cutaways of those SLP mufflers... I bet they look exactly the same with the only difference being less sound deadening material. Although, the X-pipe could be a selling point for some, the REAL advantage you are getting with an aftermarket system is DECIBELS.
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GM did the best they could within the limits of the US DOT. SLP really doesn't have to worry about it. That is 2 systems for the GTO I have seen. I need to hear them now.
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Originally Posted by grooves12
Well, I remember all the articles I read saying that GM did a lot of testing and tuning of the exhaust to get the SOUND right, not necessarrilly performance. But, the post-cat exhaust on this vehicle is probably one of the best systems GM has used in many years. TRUE duals, and free-flowing mufflers. I don't think those SLP pictures did anything to show that GM's muffler design is in any way inferior... in fact I think it proved that it is a pretty good design to begin with.
Let's see some cutaways of those SLP mufflers... I bet they look exactly the same with the only difference being less sound deadening material. Although, the X-pipe could be a selling point for some, the REAL advantage you are getting with an aftermarket system is DECIBELS.
Let's see some cutaways of those SLP mufflers... I bet they look exactly the same with the only difference being less sound deadening material. Although, the X-pipe could be a selling point for some, the REAL advantage you are getting with an aftermarket system is DECIBELS.
1 - 2.5", CNC Mandrel bent (over 2" and 2.25" stock)
2 - True transition X-pipe
3 - Entirely 304 stainless steel
4 - More aggressive / better sound
5 - Modular, interchangeable mufflers
6 - Stylish, adjustable, double-wall tips
7 - Does NOT hit the "mounts" under WOT, unlike the stock tailpipe
8 - Lifetime warrantee
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So long as it will bolt up to the long tube stainless headers you are working feverishly on - - then it's all good. I can't see changing anything except when going to headers. And as far as header's go - it is as much a looks thing as anything else to me. The engine just doesn't look right with the stock manifold on there...
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Originally Posted by DANSLS1GTO
So long as it will bolt up to the long tube stainless headers you are working feverishly on - - then it's all good. I can't see changing anything except when going to headers. And as far as header's go - it is as much a looks thing as anything else to me. The engine just doesn't look right with the stock manifold on there...
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the good news is that the headers literally 'fall' in place - quick, 1 hr job!