2004-2005gto???
04-30-2018, 08:03 PM
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Shifting fun UNTIL! The shifting forks get bent common problem,Shfting blocks wear out another common problem,Oh and lets not for get the telling you when to shift mode in the tranny,hooked into the computer,Any repairs too this tremec 6 speed is very expensive.If you can find someone to work on a manaul.The extra cost you will pay one way or another.Good Luck
05-01-2018, 08:25 AM
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No need to diminish the later models, the LS2 years are an improvement mechanically. There is no doubt. The extra cubes, larger TB, 243 heads, stronger cam, are nice. HD drivetrain items as well. As should occur when a car improves over succeeding model years. The intake does suck although the benefit is it can be opened up and resealed for porting. Unlike the LS6 one on the 2004.
The late years tend to be more desirable due to having the stronger engine and people do like the fake scoops on the hood.
Lots of 04 bashing by 05-06 owners went on back in the day. It was just immature types doing the auto equivalent of showing off their peckers. Thankfully it appears most have moved on.
At the rate they are being wrecked, any GTO which survives the next few years without a rebuilt title will be a miracle.
The late years tend to be more desirable due to having the stronger engine and people do like the fake scoops on the hood.
Lots of 04 bashing by 05-06 owners went on back in the day. It was just immature types doing the auto equivalent of showing off their peckers. Thankfully it appears most have moved on.
At the rate they are being wrecked, any GTO which survives the next few years without a rebuilt title will be a miracle.
Last edited by Felix C; 05-02-2018 at 10:42 AM.
05-01-2018, 08:49 PM
#23
No need to diminish the later models, the LS2 years are an improvement mechanically. There is no doubt. The extra cubes, larger TB, 243 heads, stronger cam, are nice. HD drivetrain items as well. As should occur when a car improves over succeeding model years. The intake does suck although the benefit is it can be opened up and resealed for porting. Unlike the LS6 one on the 2004.
The late yerars tend to be more desirable due to having the stronger engine and people do like the fake scoops on the hood.
Lots of 04 bashing by 05-06 owners went on back in the day. It was just immature types doing the auto equivalent of showing off their peckers. Thankfully it appears most have moved on.
At the rate they are being wrecked, any GTO which survives the next few years without a rebuilt title will be a miracle.
The late yerars tend to be more desirable due to having the stronger engine and people do like the fake scoops on the hood.
Lots of 04 bashing by 05-06 owners went on back in the day. It was just immature types doing the auto equivalent of showing off their peckers. Thankfully it appears most have moved on.
At the rate they are being wrecked, any GTO which survives the next few years without a rebuilt title will be a miracle.
05-10-2018, 10:31 PM
#24
05-10-2018, 10:35 PM
#25
I have an 04. Bought new not tired as you did. Mine is fine. Still is.
Some of the items you mentioned are nice and also unnoticeable in everyday driving or even slightly modified use or even more since the folks who break drivetrain related are at the upper end of the power mods.
Some items you mentioned are false as in the ECM misinformation. Or even the alleged superiority of drive by wire over cable.
Front brake calipers are larger and tire quality is more of a determinate of braking distance. Shall I bring up that famous road test review where the 05 with worn tires stopped longer distance than the 04?
Some are subjective as in the fake scoops being nicer. The door lock stuff is pure homo **** on your part. Same with the ECM location bitching. Pure prison gay stuff there.
The automatic transmission is a different model in the 2005+ vs. 2004. Manuals are the same transmission.
You should sell yours if you are unhappy. Life too short to have a negative complex over your own car. Car is 14-12 years old now and one cannot be too picky. Plus with the phenomenal wreck rate in the hands of FPFQers.
You forgot the early 2005 oil leak issues, poor flow characteristics of the LS2 manifold. The fact that none of the drivetrain improvements made the later GTOs any less skittish in poor traction conditions. Leading to the wicked wrecked rate.
Car is a niche and not a cheap one to maintain or for the ignorant. Too bad you were when you bought one. That is really the cautionary tale here. Don't be an idiot like this guy and purchase a car you know nothing about.
Some of the items you mentioned are nice and also unnoticeable in everyday driving or even slightly modified use or even more since the folks who break drivetrain related are at the upper end of the power mods.
Some items you mentioned are false as in the ECM misinformation. Or even the alleged superiority of drive by wire over cable.
Front brake calipers are larger and tire quality is more of a determinate of braking distance. Shall I bring up that famous road test review where the 05 with worn tires stopped longer distance than the 04?
Some are subjective as in the fake scoops being nicer. The door lock stuff is pure homo **** on your part. Same with the ECM location bitching. Pure prison gay stuff there.
The automatic transmission is a different model in the 2005+ vs. 2004. Manuals are the same transmission.
You should sell yours if you are unhappy. Life too short to have a negative complex over your own car. Car is 14-12 years old now and one cannot be too picky. Plus with the phenomenal wreck rate in the hands of FPFQers.
You forgot the early 2005 oil leak issues, poor flow characteristics of the LS2 manifold. The fact that none of the drivetrain improvements made the later GTOs any less skittish in poor traction conditions. Leading to the wicked wrecked rate.
Car is a niche and not a cheap one to maintain or for the ignorant. Too bad you were when you bought one. That is really the cautionary tale here. Don't be an idiot like this guy and purchase a car you know nothing about.