Should Moser come out with a rearend for the GTO?
#23
Why create another IRS rear, when their are companies already selling one, that seems to be performing well?
The is no options for a SRA, which is what I would be interested in. I'd love a SRA kit, even if cutting/welding is required. As long as its all good quality stuff, I'd be on it in a minute.
If they are serious about it, I have a GTO body they can have for mock-up! Its 100% stripped, and can't be registered for street, but I have the paperwork, and its all theirs if it would help them out.
Vinny
#24
While a SRA would be ideal for the drag racers, it has been noted to keep it a IRS for the handling and bolt-on design. The SRA would require a entire new cradle if any, torque arm, new lca mounts, and severe modification. On top of that it would still need a 2pc shaft due to pinion angle and location.
Some of the fastest cars are IRS as well (vipers / supras) , it would be interesting to see how it would work out with the IRS.
For a SRA swap, what i have seen is a tq arm like a global west that mounts to the body, and a custom set of LCA's. Shock mounts are the easy thing, a coil over would be the easiest thing to set ride height.
We will pass along all ideas to there engineers, they want to make a stout peice and we do as well.
Some of the fastest cars are IRS as well (vipers / supras) , it would be interesting to see how it would work out with the IRS.
For a SRA swap, what i have seen is a tq arm like a global west that mounts to the body, and a custom set of LCA's. Shock mounts are the easy thing, a coil over would be the easiest thing to set ride height.
We will pass along all ideas to there engineers, they want to make a stout peice and we do as well.
#25
If moser wants to do something that nobody else has done, make GTO billet outter axle hub assemblies, one that works with factory rear control arms. To accompany their IRS housing.
I know moser was looking into a GTO diff but for some reason they were talking more about an SSR rear end?
I know moser was looking into a GTO diff but for some reason they were talking more about an SSR rear end?
#27
There is no reason to be biased at this point,
When/If moser comes out with this product,
will hold everything you can throw at it, no questions asked.
I have full faith in Mosers Engineers and there ability to make a reliable product that will take a daily beating and survive at the strip.
When/If moser comes out with this product,
will hold everything you can throw at it, no questions asked.
I have full faith in Mosers Engineers and there ability to make a reliable product that will take a daily beating and survive at the strip.
I have trouble with statements like this
when a 300rwhp trans am can break a moser (twice) cutting a 1.8 60'
and my "stock" (and weak IRS) rear end had no problem handleing over 500rwhp and 600rwtq and cut many 1.6x 60" times and one 1.555 without issues
#28
I also sell sometimes three to four Moser rears in a day, and we have had very few problems with them. I have no idea who your "buddy" bought his Moser rear through, but something there does not add up. Bob
#29
I would like to see more options available for the gto,
but the stock rear end dosn't seem to be a problem for many people (not like the 10 bolt)
the biggest issue I've seen is the price of upgrade componants (cv axles, axle stubs, and ring/pinion sets)
I strongly feel that competition (from venders/manufacturers) is great for consumers.
but again, it would take alot of convincing for me to but a moser (being this close to such a bad experience)
but the stock rear end dosn't seem to be a problem for many people (not like the 10 bolt)
the biggest issue I've seen is the price of upgrade componants (cv axles, axle stubs, and ring/pinion sets)
I strongly feel that competition (from venders/manufacturers) is great for consumers.
but again, it would take alot of convincing for me to but a moser (being this close to such a bad experience)
#30
If you ask me and ask those around me they will tell the you the same thing. The stock IRS is fine.
I see no issue why a stock IRS will not live deep into the 9's. with a auto. Only mod I have done is drag springs and a solid drive shaft. Friend has done solid driveshaft and drag bags and left on 8psi of boost off the transbrake many times and went back to nitrous and leaves off the brake with the nitrous. Can a 10 bolt hold that??? Nope.
If someone is going to come out with something then come out with a badass anti roll bar.
I see no issue why a stock IRS will not live deep into the 9's. with a auto. Only mod I have done is drag springs and a solid drive shaft. Friend has done solid driveshaft and drag bags and left on 8psi of boost off the transbrake many times and went back to nitrous and leaves off the brake with the nitrous. Can a 10 bolt hold that??? Nope.
If someone is going to come out with something then come out with a badass anti roll bar.
#31
Customer of ours w/ M6 broke a Kaaz posi, stub axle and billet CV first run at the track with F1A procharger
Now 6 speed running off a 2 step with 8 psi out the hole, good luck.
Now 6 speed running off a 2 step with 8 psi out the hole, good luck.
If you ask me and ask those around me they will tell the you the same thing. The stock IRS is fine.
I see no issue why a stock IRS will not live deep into the 9's. with a auto. Only mod I have done is drag springs and a solid drive shaft. Friend has done solid driveshaft and drag bags and left on 8psi of boost off the transbrake many times and went back to nitrous and leaves off the brake with the nitrous. Can a 10 bolt hold that??? Nope.
If someone is going to come out with something then come out with a badass anti roll bar.
I see no issue why a stock IRS will not live deep into the 9's. with a auto. Only mod I have done is drag springs and a solid drive shaft. Friend has done solid driveshaft and drag bags and left on 8psi of boost off the transbrake many times and went back to nitrous and leaves off the brake with the nitrous. Can a 10 bolt hold that??? Nope.
If someone is going to come out with something then come out with a badass anti roll bar.
#33
i dont really mind keeping my IRS and have recently been thinking of going to a SRA setup. i just keep falling back on the all around handling that i currently have. personally i would like to see a cheaper alternative for the IRS...maybe someone else to offer an 8.8 cobra diff conversion, or somethng of that sort. i have contacted a very well know vendor about a ring and pinion for the stock rear, but i havent heard anything back since the beginning of last summer.
all in all, if moser can produce a kit for a FAIR price then im sure it would sell. i just think more would prefer to keep the IRS and have more options for that instead.
all in all, if moser can produce a kit for a FAIR price then im sure it would sell. i just think more would prefer to keep the IRS and have more options for that instead.
#34
I think Nine Ball is right. We need a SRA like the M9 housing for the f-bodys, using a torque arm on the trans crossmember. I think it would work great with BMR's subframe connectors w/LCA tabs welded to them. Build it and they will come!!!
#35
I would like a stronger IRS for future plans but I'd rather see an IRS Dana 60 than a 9" or 12 bolt. If I'm gonna drop a chunk of change I only want to do it once. SRA? I don't know. If I really wanted it I would have gotten a F-body.
#36
As for Mosier making a diff, to selll enough of them they have to be priced under $2,000 no questions asked.