Should Moser come out with a rearend for the GTO?
12-22-2007, 05:33 AM
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Should Moser come out with a rearend for the GTO? Tim from Moser, shown in this video http://www.powertvonline.com/video_detail.php?mId=2901 was at my shop Thursday and took a good look at the rear in jmd's GTO. Do you think there would be enough interest for Moser to invest in coming out with a stronger rear for the GTO? Bob
12-22-2007, 06:08 AM
#2
I'm all for it. Once this is done, with a few alterations, it could also be used in the G8 and Camaro. So I think it'll be worth it to mock up an assembly.
Price is the big concern though. How many people are willing to spend that much money? I spent $2K on my 12 bolt for my WS6 and thought that was ridiculous but I guess its what they go for.
Price is the big concern though. How many people are willing to spend that much money? I spent $2K on my 12 bolt for my WS6 and thought that was ridiculous but I guess its what they go for.
12-22-2007, 08:45 PM
#6
honestly,
I doubt there would be enough intrest,
there's already a 12 bolt and 9" available out of Australia (neither sell many at all)
not to mention,
I have little confidence in moser's 12 bolts in a 4K lb car that comes with 400lb/ft of tq.
they can't even handle a 3400lb trans am with 300hp
(then when you call moser about the warranty, they tell you that there parts aren't designed for racing)
I doubt there would be enough intrest,
there's already a 12 bolt and 9" available out of Australia (neither sell many at all)
not to mention,
I have little confidence in moser's 12 bolts in a 4K lb car that comes with 400lb/ft of tq.
they can't even handle a 3400lb trans am with 300hp
(then when you call moser about the warranty, they tell you that there parts aren't designed for racing)
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12-22-2007, 11:15 PM
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honestly,
I doubt there would be enough intrest,
there's already a 12 bolt and 9" available out of Australia (neither sell many at all)
not to mention,
I have little confidence in moser's 12 bolts in a 4K lb car that comes with 400lb/ft of tq.
they can't even handle a 3400lb trans am with 300hp
(then when you call moser about the warranty, they tell you that there parts aren't designed for racing)
I doubt there would be enough intrest,
there's already a 12 bolt and 9" available out of Australia (neither sell many at all)
not to mention,
I have little confidence in moser's 12 bolts in a 4K lb car that comes with 400lb/ft of tq.
they can't even handle a 3400lb trans am with 300hp
(then when you call moser about the warranty, they tell you that there parts aren't designed for racing)
12-23-2007, 07:28 AM
#10
http://www.harrop.com.au/
12 bolt:
http://www.harrop.com.au/root_folder..._irs_diff.html
12 bolt:
http://www.harrop.com.au/root_folder..._irs_diff.html
Harrop Commodore/Monaro Chev 12 Bolt IRS Diff
Product Code: Chev 12 Bolt Commodore IRS
Harrop Engineering has designed a replacement IRS diff assembly that utilises the components from the popular Chev 12 Bolt diff assemblies. Available with ratio options of 3.08:1 through to 5.46:1. All assemblies are fitted standard with the Eaton TrueTrac differential.
Features
Direct bolt up replacement for the standard Holden IRS diff assembly
Utilises standard driveshafts
Modified tailshaft available to suit
Compatible with all aftermarket 12 Bolt diff components
Supplied standard with Eaton TrueTrac differential
May be optioned with Eaton Posi LSD or Detroit Locker (depending on application).
Price $5,500.00 inc GST
Product Code: Chev 12 Bolt Commodore IRS
Harrop Engineering has designed a replacement IRS diff assembly that utilises the components from the popular Chev 12 Bolt diff assemblies. Available with ratio options of 3.08:1 through to 5.46:1. All assemblies are fitted standard with the Eaton TrueTrac differential.
Features
Direct bolt up replacement for the standard Holden IRS diff assembly
Utilises standard driveshafts
Modified tailshaft available to suit
Compatible with all aftermarket 12 Bolt diff components
Supplied standard with Eaton TrueTrac differential
May be optioned with Eaton Posi LSD or Detroit Locker (depending on application).
Price $5,500.00 inc GST
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12-23-2007, 07:33 AM
#11
9"
http://www.harrop.com.au/root_folder...sg2525-00.html
http://www.harrop.com.au/root_folder...sg2525-00.html
9" IRS Commodore Diff Housing
Product Code: 99-AHSG2525-00
The ultimate differential upgrade for those high horsepower IRS Commodores. The Harrop 9" IRS diff conversion utilises all standard 9" differential internals and can be custom assembled depending on ratio and carrier requirements.
Features
Direct bolt up replacement for VR through pre-VE Commodore Independent Rear Suspension
31 spline output shafts
Uses standard mountings, CV joints, driveshafts, tailshaft, ABS sensors
Can be supplied semi assembled or complete ready to fit
Oil cooler ports can be fitted if required
Compatible with most 9" accessories
Minor exhaust modifications may be required for exhaust clearence
Price
Suit VR - VTI: $7,150.00 inc GST (less gear set and carrier)
Suit VTII - Current: $7,425.00 inc GST (less gear set and carrier)
Complete assembly prices available depending on options, contact Harrop for prices.
Product Code: 99-AHSG2525-00
The ultimate differential upgrade for those high horsepower IRS Commodores. The Harrop 9" IRS diff conversion utilises all standard 9" differential internals and can be custom assembled depending on ratio and carrier requirements.
Features
Direct bolt up replacement for VR through pre-VE Commodore Independent Rear Suspension
31 spline output shafts
Uses standard mountings, CV joints, driveshafts, tailshaft, ABS sensors
Can be supplied semi assembled or complete ready to fit
Oil cooler ports can be fitted if required
Compatible with most 9" accessories
Minor exhaust modifications may be required for exhaust clearence
Price
Suit VR - VTI: $7,150.00 inc GST (less gear set and carrier)
Suit VTII - Current: $7,425.00 inc GST (less gear set and carrier)
Complete assembly prices available depending on options, contact Harrop for prices.
12-23-2007, 07:39 AM
#12
not me,
but one of my very good friends (he's here on tech too.
)he broke his twice with a nearly "stock" WS6
they just can't handle the shock of a 6 speed
when he contacted them, they told him it was due to abuse, and there products weren't designed for racing
have you seen there homepage?
it used to have a pro-stock dragster doing a wheel stand
WELCOME
Moser Engineering, founded in 1982, manufactures aftermarket performance rear end components for various racing applications.
Moser Engineering, founded in 1982, manufactures aftermarket performance rear end components for various racing applications.
12-23-2007, 07:53 AM
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https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ighlight=moser
what rearend should I put in
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I blew my stock rearend in my 02' WS6 today. I want to know what rearend I should put in it. My top 2 are definitely dana 60 or a 9 inch. Give me some ideas and some opinions.
A Moser 12 bolt is ready to ship in two days. A Strange takes something like three weeks from the last I knew. Either one makes for a good rear.
Moser 12 bolt with truetrak center, your choice of gear
33 spline axles with 10 year warranty
ABS or ABS/TCS
Performance aluminum cover
$2350.00 plus freight collect shipping Bob
Moser 12 bolt with truetrak center, your choice of gear
33 spline axles with 10 year warranty
ABS or ABS/TCS
Performance aluminum cover
$2350.00 plus freight collect shipping Bob
12-23-2007, 07:57 AM
#15
you did in another thread
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ighlight=moser
what rearend should I put in
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I blew my stock rearend in my 02' WS6 today. I want to know what rearend I should put in it. My top 2 are definitely dana 60 or a 9 inch. Give me some ideas and some opinions.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ighlight=moser
what rearend should I put in
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I blew my stock rearend in my 02' WS6 today. I want to know what rearend I should put in it. My top 2 are definitely dana 60 or a 9 inch. Give me some ideas and some opinions.
No I didn't. They were comparing the Moser to the Strange, and I mentioned the difference in time that it takes to get one., plus the original guy who posted in that thread had an automatic! Bob
12-23-2007, 01:33 PM
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not me,
but one of my very good friends (he's here on tech too.)
he broke his twice with a nearly "stock" WS6
they just can't handle the shock of a 6 speed
when he contacted them, they told him it was due to abuse, and there products weren't designed for racing
have you seen there homepage?
it used to have a pro-stock dragster doing a wheel stand
I don't have much faith in them anymore
but one of my very good friends (he's here on tech too.
)he broke his twice with a nearly "stock" WS6
they just can't handle the shock of a 6 speed
when he contacted them, they told him it was due to abuse, and there products weren't designed for racing
have you seen there homepage?
it used to have a pro-stock dragster doing a wheel stand
I don't have much faith in them anymore
12-25-2007, 07:40 PM
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The Moser soloution for the GTO would be a IRS setup. There is no reason to be biased at this point, this is all in the works and it looks like people are already jumping on the bandwagon to bash them.
When/If moser comes out with this product, it will be competitively priced and will hold everything you can throw at it, no questions asked. I have full faith in Mosers Engineers and there ability to make a reliable product that will take a daily beating and survive at the strip.
When/If moser comes out with this product, it will be competitively priced and will hold everything you can throw at it, no questions asked. I have full faith in Mosers Engineers and there ability to make a reliable product that will take a daily beating and survive at the strip.