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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Default Vengeance Racing/TrickFlow 346 LS1 503RWHP!!!!

I posted a graph a few weeks back of an 02 SS with TrickFlow heads/VRX1 Camshaft and all the bolt ons... This bad boy made 488/429 ... At the time the car had stock 2002 injectors and a stock fuel pump...

The customer brought in the car last week and we upgraded his pump/injectors and strapped it back down for some additional tweaking. The results speak for themselves....


List of mods:
TrickFlow TFS cylinder heads
Vengeance Racing VRX1 Camshaft
Harland Sharp roller rockers
Kooks stainless 1 3/4 Longtubes, no cats, GMMG catback
Fast 90 ported by Vengeance
Nick Williams 90mm TB
Pulley
Mezierre street pump
4:10 rear with 17x11 rims/tires
PUMP GAS/NO Flycutting/28.5 TOTAL TIMING


The torque impressed us more than the horsepower did!!!! Now this badboy just needs a 12bolt/slicks/ and more importantly a DRIVER



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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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wow, freaking awesome tq curve!!! damn, those heads are impressive!
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Very nicely done!!!!! I was acually thinking of getting a set of the TFS heads send me a price via PM and let me know how soon they can be avaliable. Thanks
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Correction factor?
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by zipdog
Correction factor?
graph says SAE


AMAZING numbers
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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That is an AMAZING torque curve.....congratulations, exceptional for a 346 street car.

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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Ballpark cam specs????
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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I think it's the first time I see the 400 RWTQ touched before 3500rpm...
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:12 AM
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woow sick numbers out of those heads and your great camshaft so big Congrats to the owner and incredible job VR

were the heads untouched (out of the box), just curious buddy ??

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Very well done!

Most robust torque curve for a 346 I've seen in a long time!
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Very well done!

Most robust torque curve for a 346 I've seen in a long time!
Hell yeah Pat > 400+rwtq at 6500rpm

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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500rwhp is cracked by 6250RPM, in the days that was a good RPM point to crack 400rwhp!

I cant help to think that there is a small correction factor issue, that the max rwtq is more like 430rwtq or so and that the power is exaggerated.

But if its not, damn thats alot.
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Patrick G
Very well done!

Most robust torque curve for a 346 I've seen in a long time!
Define "long time" please, cause I've never seen a 346 torque curve like THAT!

Awesome job guys, I'm sure the owner is quite pleased, keep up the great work!
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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WTF did you do to that car...feed it crack?!? Impressive to say the least...
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Must be "all in the tune" Nice job guys-
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[QUOTE=Ron@Vengeance]PUMP GAS/NO Flycutting/28.5 TOTAL TIMINGQUOTE]

Hi Ron,

Why so much timing?
Do you consider "28.5 TOTAL TIMING" as a pike somewhere on your curve or is it a consistent number between max torque and max power?

Maximum high flowing intake numbers (characteristic of good head) are usually mate with High Volume Efficiency and in my (old) experience of Europeen Racing it induce less timing.
Specially if you can double the efficiency of the head system by adding "increased speed combustion" in the equation of the head enginered design.

Some WRC engines on a 102 ron are using timing pics aroung 16° and their SCR is still not so high, I agree yours is lower...

Do you take any advantage with this 28.5°, is it related to your particular head combustion shape or a particular flowing valve event you decided to use or simply a fact it works better like this?

Christian

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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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That torque is rediculous. Every other 500+hp 346 I've seen the torque has been a little lacking due to the big cam. Wanna give a rough estimate on the cam durations? 23x, 24x, or 25x?
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 05:43 PM
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what TFS are they,215-225's? are they out of the box w/no additional work?
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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What really gets my goat is that those numbers can compete with a big cube setup in terms of peak numbers...granted, there's more to an engine than what it makes peak, but still. These little 346s can move out...
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Old Nov 3, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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damn putting supernatural freaks out one after the other... badass numbers

specs of cam? TFS 215's?
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