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Old 05-17-2016, 02:43 AM
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Default Questions regarding PRC Stage 2.5 heads and milling

So I will be sending in my 243s to PRC to have a mild port along with having them milled and have a few questions.

I currently have a Gen 4 LMG 5.3 with OE 243 heads, Crane 210/218---.551/.551---116+2LSA---110ICL cam, Stock flat top pistons, 051" MLS head gaskets.

I would like to have the PRC Stage 2.5 done to the heads, have the heads milled down to 58CC Combustion Chamber (.0036" Milled give or take), using Ferrea 2.02" Intake and 1.575" Exhaust valves. Also going to a .040" head gasket to achieve a 11.12:1 Static CR and a 8.15:1 Dynamic CR.

My question is will I run into any PTV clearance issues or any issues of any sorts with this combo?
I want to stay away from Fly Cutting the pistons. SO if something needs to be changed let me know. I can have the heads shaved .030" to be at 59CC's if needed.

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It never hurts to check but you should be fine milling ~.036" with that lift.
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Are you sure about those cam specs and compression results?

With 58cc chambers, flat tops and a 110ICL cam those compression numbers seem off.
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I have used 3 different calculators and came up with 11.1-11.2:1 Static and 8.15-8.21:1 on Dynamic.

I am using a 3.780" Bore, 3.622" Stroke, Cylinder head Gasket Bore of 3.92", Head gasket thickness of .040", 58cc Chamber, Stock Gen 4/L33 Flat top pistons 0.00CC , -.006 Piston Deck Clearance out of hole.

Cams ABDC is at 74.0, 0 Boost at Sea Level.

Did I miss something or didn't calculate something right?

I am 100% Sure on cam specs, looking at cam card now. Crane Cams # 1449051

Factory specs on Static CR is 9.95:1 with stock 64.45CC 243s and .051" head gasket.

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Does anyone have a good website to calculating the Static Compression Ratio. I have tried 10 different places and it varies from 10.89 up to 11.38:1 using all the same specs.
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http://www.rbracing-rsr.com/compstaticcalc.html
http://www.wallaceracing.com/dynamic-cr.php

I used RBRacings thing and came up with 11.2:1 SCR with a 59cc Camber and .040" head gasket, then used Wallace Racing for the DCR and came up with 8.21:1

Does this sound right for a 59cc chamber? The 58cc with these calculators puts me above the DCR I would like to be at.
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Does this seem about right?
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You're using duration and valve events at 0.050...that's not going to be accurate. Plus, that number should be 39 + 15 so 54 if you're going by that. Idk where you got 74 from.

You need to look at the advertised duration at 0.006

11.2 SCR with 272 advertised duration and 114ICL is about 8.53.

Although it's confusing, you're saying 116+2 but the ICL is 110?


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Roger vinci sent me all the specs on the cam and it clearly says 110 intake center line. Maybe he made a mistake.

The 74 ABDC at .004" , i honestly did not know their was a difference.

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Its probably 116+4. I have a 222/226 115+3 .600 lift and PRC 5.3 heads 58cc on a 5.3 LM7 and i have no issues.

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To many damn numbers at different durations, so confusing and i thought i had most of it down.
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Originally Posted by gagliano7
Its probably 116+4. I have a 222/226 115+3 .600 lift and PRC 5.3 heads 58cc on a 5.3 LM7 and i have no issues.
Its a 116+2 for sure. I know that for a fact. Just the ICL, i emailed roger about it and he emailed me back a hand written cam card and it said 110. Probably a mistype.
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Those don't make sense. The only way I got to match his valve events at 0.004 is with a 116-2 actually, so a 118 ICL.

Sorry to jump off course here, in the end this cam will work fine in your situation.

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Interesting. This is confusing. Maybe everything is wrong about his cam card.

I am going to email him back and try and get the right specs.
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I sent him an email about this and he said it is a 116 with 2 degrees of advance. And said the ICL is unadvertised. No idea what that means. But it is for sure a 116+2.
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Redtan, i do appreciate your replys and knowledge on this. I am still trying to understand all this cam stuff.

Based off all the info on the cam I gave you minus the ICL, what would be the best chamber size to achieve the closest to 8.2:1 dynamic compression.
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Now I did find more info on the cam, overlap being 48 if that helps any.
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Based off all the info on the cam I gave you minus the ICL, what would be the best chamber size to achieve the closest to 8.2:1 dynamic compression.
Honestly, I would go with another cam that is better spec'd...or manually advance the current one.

I would shoot for something like 8.5-8.6 DCR. That could be achieved by milling off 2-3ccs of the heads.
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Cam you recommend a cam that you have heard good about. I do not want to change to converter since I tow 6600lbs once a month. What about a BTR truck stage 2 or TSP 212/218 .550/.550 114LSA?
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Both of those are good choices, I would go with the BTR on Cammotion cores.


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