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Old 11-04-2017, 11:59 AM
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I was on the highway last night and out of no where I felt this slight lag which I did sense but didn't think a lot about it. Then about a mile up the road she was dead. I was able to coast off the highway. It was close to starting a few times but I suspect fuel pump. I still have the original in there at 320k.

Any recommendations on a good brand, as well as tips tricks? I also hear that it's not a fun job on these cars.
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That looks mighty tempting.
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BTW - Pretty darn sure it's the fuel pump. I can hear the pump priming and it sounds like it's struggling. I swapped the relay with another and as I expected, made no difference. So I hook up my OTC fuel pressure tester to find zero PSI, because the cheap gauge lost the valve at the connector. Sigh. I guess I'll get an adapter with a schrader valve and mount that guage permanently on the rail. Also ... no CEL codes either. It started and ran and died when I revved it.
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That looks mighty tempting.
Until you understand how it can cause heavier-than-air fumes to enter the cabin and create an explosion hazard.

There's a reason the car didn't come like this...
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I should have pointed out, more constructively, that sealing an access door up to make it reliably air tight is very difficult.

Another concern would be fire safety. If the car were to be in a crash with a fire by the gas tank, flames will get into the cockpit much faster with a door there, than without.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
Until you understand how it can cause heavier-than-air fumes to enter the cabin and create an explosion hazard.

There's a reason the car didn't come like this...
Actually lots of cars come that way (not this one), They just have a cover plate and seal. By the time you get done cutting a hole and then making a cover to fix it it would be easier to just drop the tank.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
I should have pointed out, more constructively, that sealing an access door up to make it reliably air tight is very difficult.

Another concern would be fire safety. If the car were to be in a crash with a fire by the gas tank, flames will get into the cockpit much faster with a door there, than without.
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say. There's a right way and a wrong way to do it. I've seen threads where folks have just cut a U and bent it back, taped it .. or whatever. I plan to use sheet metal, seal and pop rivet. I always thought that I would never do this until now that I actually have to do the job. I'm an engineer, I an assure that it will be air tight .
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Originally Posted by TA_Freak
I'm an engineer, I an assure that it will be air tight .
How about fire-blocked.
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Originally Posted by wssix99
How about fire-blocked.
I would hope that if the tank caught fire, it would find the path of least resistance and roll itself around the body first..... and if I'm lucky enough to be conscience and not trapped, I might live. Either way, there are million other things that could kill me today .. only God knows the minute I will die.
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Originally Posted by TA_Freak
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say. There's a right way and a wrong way to do it. I've seen threads where folks have just cut a U and bent it back, taped it .. or whatever. I plan to use sheet metal, seal and pop rivet. I always thought that I would never do this until now that I actually have to do the job. I'm an engineer, I an assure that it will be air tight .
There is absolutely nothing wrong with cutting a trap door.

I welded 1/2 in. flaps framing the piece I cut out so I can just put a bead of silicon around it and set it into place.

You are not going to get fumes inside.
If my car starts on fire......I will get out lol.
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