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Old 09-30-2013, 02:05 PM
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I have a 69 Camaro and need help with header decision. I have hookers competition 1 5/8s on their now. Had to do some denting to get them in on the all stock 350. I just rebuilt the motor last week and now running AFR 195 heads with raised exhaust ports. The header on the driver side is against the power steering. They are the cheapest hookers I could get at the time and I want to replace them with some good new ceramic coated headers. I think I have narrowed it down to 3 choices that I think will clear and fit nicely.
Hedman HED-66003 1 3/4" and a 5/16" flange 18 gauge,
Hooker HOK-2451-4HKR 1 5/8'' and a 5/16" flange 16 gauge, or
Doug Thorley 376Y1C Tri Y 1 5/8" and 3/8" flange 14 gauge.

Has anyone had any experience with any of these



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Take a look at these guys.

http://maddogheaders.net/

I will probably order these for my Pontiac next time I need some. I never liked the fit of Hooker or Hedman.
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The Mad dogs look pretty good. Hookers have been a pain since day one. I hate them just changing spark plugs
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I can only relate to Hedman on my 72 nova. The ones I have are 1 3/4 primary to 3" collector with a flange mount and bolted on a Brodix track 1 head. Fit great, they are about 8 years old or so.
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Dynatech.
http://www.dynatechheaders.com/m_camaro_67_69.html

If it's just touching you can use a chainsaw sharpening bit in a Dremel and it'll go through the cast iron steering box like butter. There's a lot of extra meat there that can be taken off the corners and such. Since the engine torques to the passenger side you only need a few mm room to keep from having problems.

BTW, for spark plugs get yourself a short 12pt 5/8" socket for 1/2" drive and grind a couple of flats on the side of it. It works kinda like the LT1 $20 tool and will slide over the plug and let you use a wrench to get the tough ones. I can do all eight in and out in maybe 20 minutes. NGK FR5 plugs have been burning good in my 10:1 SBC with AFR heads.



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Dynatechs have what ive really been look at since I posted this. I like those. and I've also already done the socket mod.
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SSellers, how are you liking the AFR heads? I just installed mine with a Lunati Voodoo cam but havent gotten to drive it. Still down going to start on the Coan torque converter tonight. Hopefully I will be driving it this weekend
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SSellers, how are you liking the AFR heads? I just installed mine with a Lunati Voodoo cam but havent gotten to drive it. Still down going to start on the Coan torque converter tonight. Hopefully I will be driving it this weekend
Can't complain. Built the 400 for torque since it's street only and wanted to pull the steep 0.64 OD and mild 3.42 gear at low RPM which is why it only has the 195 heads. Cam is just a 224/224 @ 0.050 hydraulic roller with 0.536" lift with the 1.6 rockers (smaller than what most will put in a 350), and only running 30 degrees timing. With the crude EFI it pulls fifth at 1200 RPM with the cruise control on and runs 100mph at 2800 RPM.


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what tranny are you running? I just drove mine out of the shop yesterday. 3.73s with a th350 2800 stall coan converter and the afr 195s. Runs good and strong but is missing at about 1500 to 2000 rpm just cruising down the road and right before it shifts. I dont know what the problem is. I have msd 6AL and pro billet distributer.



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