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95 camaro z28 8.1 swap for $3500 (car included) anyone give a shit?

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Old 01-04-2024, 04:42 PM
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Here’s where I’m at now….




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Is this just going to be a racecar?
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I’ll street / strip it. I only ever drive my toys when it’s nice out so not worried about the hvac/ wipers. I never use them on my firebird, so doesn’t bother me deleting them.
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How is the budget so far?
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No surprise I’m over budget but here’s everything I’ve bought and sold to date. Shouldn’t need too much more. Some paint, fluids, etc. I do have a lot of parts and materials at my disposal so I haven’t included any of that stuff.



2080 - purchase

86 - trailer rental

45- trans gasket/ fluid

13- exhaust pipe

24 - more exhaust pipe

9 - studs bolts

220 - steering rack and lines

15 - exhaust collector gasket

29 - exhaust gasket/ stud remover

16 - exhaust clamps

55 - gearwrench stud removers

9 - oil filter

7 - exhaust flange gasket

23 -coolant temp sensor

85 - car cover

37 - hot staple gun

8 - trans plug

600 - 8.1 liter

47 - throttle bod

110 - belt tensioner, water pump gaskets, throttle body gaskets, thermostat, idler pulley

91 - wiring harness

19 - hardware

72 - power steering pump and pulley

(140) - throttle body sold

94 - intake manifold gaskets

64 - 4896 pcm

33 - vacuum fitting, ect sensor, npt reducer

16 - cam sensor

100 - hp tuner credits

5 - shrink tube

22 - oil pressure pigtail

34 - idler and bolt

16 - ls ect adapter

13 - ls ect sensor

21 - power steering pulley

17 - power steering high pressure ls1 line

26 - window motor

171- flexplate

54 - trans cooler

71 - starter

116 - o2 sensors

46 - rag joint eliminator

53 - sparkplugs / wires

23 - crossover gaskets

(95) - engine harness

35 - throttle cable

(500) - lt1 sold

21 - o2 bungs

91 - brake booster

61 - hvac delete

21 - solid motor mounts

8 - window clips

70 - battery cables

15 - pcm mount



Total - 4260
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A $3500 budget would have been cool and all, but starting @ $2600 in car+donor engine (which is stupid-cheap), it doesn't take much for the bitty parts to add up. A $5k budget is equally impressive.

As unique as this project is, it's more important it gets built at this point, than worrying about running over a $3500 budget.
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I’m waiting for my Milwaukee hackzall to show up from Amazon to finish cutting the right side cowl. I was able to do the middle and driver side with a grinder/ cutoff wheel. With some left over sheet metal I had from my old sierra hood I started to fab in some patch panels for the firewall. I tack welded them in, then hit them with some panel bond. I’ll prime them and paint them red when the firewall is all done.


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I get a lot more use out of the milwaukee multitool. Seems to fit everywhere better.
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Finished up tacking in the cowl/ firewall patches. I have to run out to Sherwin Williams to grab some bright red paint and more panel bond tomorrow. So here’s where progress is at.





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There's a guy on YT, he used to be on the show Trucks.

He has a 8.1 in his Silverado that he boosted. He calls it "The Ugly Truck" IIRC, it had a 5.3 and he put the 8.1 in it.

He did it because the internet said the 8.1 would explode after 10lbs of boost. He pushed it way past that.

Recently he did a cam swap and some other upgrades. There's quite a bit of good 8.1 info on his channel.
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I’m still waiting for my hvac block off plate so I can mount my fuse boxes and pcm behind the glove compartment. I think my electrical work is pretty much all taken care of at this point. I replaced my c230 connector with a metri pack 10 pin that I had from an old harness. I also found a female connector that fit the 220 connector. This way the stand alone can be 100% removed if I ever want to do so. I ran a new starter solenoid wire and a couple wires for the lt1 ect sensor. This one is only for use of the gauge. After I get the block off plate, I’ll get the engine bay cleaned up, preped and painted. Then it will be time to put the drivetrain in, hopefully for good



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I feel like making a block off plate is well within your ability.
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Originally Posted by BishopTS
I feel like making a block off plate is well within your ability.
Hahaha thanks. It’s like 45 bucks and comes painted soooo, not worth my time.
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I was driving in the rain the other day and was quickly reminded that even tho I'm running without the optispark signal I'm still running with a distributor 2 feet off of the wet road. It was sputtering and wouldn't get over 2000rpm without a lot of hesitation.
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At least you have wipers
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Yea it took a little bit to find some. The hooks for these cars are upside down
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Did you do a 411 swap on your black car?
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Originally Posted by BishopTS
Did you do a 411 swap on your black car?
it has a complete interior, wiring harness, and pcm from an 01 camaro ss.
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Nice. I see you have the block off plate finally


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