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Old 02-16-2005, 09:43 AM
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And what exactly with the motor plates do for you?
Old 02-16-2005, 07:09 PM
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I to am looking at doing this swap I've waited quite some time to do it and now that i've found others who have done and are doing this swap I'm in Iraq so hopefully this fall when I get home I can start on it, any help or unusual stuff you guy's could tell me about is great.what size wheels and slicks can you get under the 93-97's stock wheel well? Is it hard to fab a crossmember for a th350? Thanks
I've heard the 28x10.5 slicks will fit under them with some work, but I haven't tried yet. I have put 26x10.5 slick on a 97 F-Body. For the TH350 cross member I used a stock auto cross member and added a mounting tab on the front with gussets to support it.
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What is a trigger and gutless distributor? Does anyone have a link?
And what exactly with the motor plates do for you?

Anyone?.......
Old 02-22-2005, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by lowbgtrs
What is a trigger and gutless distributor? Does anyone have a link?
And what exactly with the motor plates do for you?

Anyone?.......
A gutless distributor has no trigger in it, it is just used to distribute the power from the coil to the plug wires. Then for a trigger you'd use a crank trigger.
I'm using front motor plates becuase the LT1 motor mounts only use the lower and rear top bolts from the original style motor mounts and the third bolt is towards the rear of the block. A conventional small block doesn't have the rear bolt towards the rear of the block so you can't use the LT1 mounts on a conventional small block. Plus my car started as a V6 car, so I'd have to change the cross member to use the LT1 mounts anyway.
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Good info guys..
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what wires can i eliminate under the dash and in the engine bay? i dont need gauges or anything like that...only working lights and blinkers...i took out all the hvac boxes ect and bought a block off for the fire wall....also with a 4150 style holley950 hp what do i do for throttle cable and mounts?and you say lt1 radiator wont work with the sbc huh?thanks for the help...im about 1/2 way into the conversion now....

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If you dont need gauges or computer than you wont need any of the wires coming out of the pass. side firewall. Lights are run off of the bcm (seperate computer from the pcm in the engine bay). For throttle cable i used one from an 85 z28 and enlarged the hole on the firewall. I used the lt1 radiator, but you will need flex hoses to route it properly. The lt1 radiator hooks up opposite of the older gm ones. (water pump attaches to upper driver side and thermostat housing attaches to lower passenger side) As for throttle cable bracket, i bought the plain bracket from autozone and bent the tab 180 degrees around so that it would line up straight with the carb. You may not need to do this on most carbs but i did on mine, holley 770 street avenger. Hope this helps.
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what about under the dash?id like to get rid of all the wire i possibly can...i dont have any hvac controls or any of that to worry about...

thanks for all the help
Old 09-28-2005, 08:26 AM
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Well you could remove all of the vaccuum lines, blower motor, heater core etc. underneath the passenger side dash.
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yea ive gotton that stuff out as of yesterday...im trying to figure out what wires i can eliminate under the dash....i think im just going to leave a 1 foot pig tail off the fuse box and just run new wires through out the car for the things im gonne still power...

thanks for all the help....now you said i can use a ls1 radiator though and i dont have the backwards line problems right?
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Originally Posted by tonylittell
yea ive gotton that stuff out as of yesterday...im trying to figure out what wires i can eliminate under the dash....i think im just going to leave a 1 foot pig tail off the fuse box and just run new wires through out the car for the things im gonne still power...

thanks for all the help....now you said i can use a ls1 radiator though and i dont have the backwards line problems right?
I picked up the terminals for the factory fuse block in the dash, turn signal connector, wiper switch & headlight switch. I'm re-wiring it for the stuff I still have in the car (turn signals, headlights, wiper, gauges, starter, ignition and fuel pump).
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Anyone running a front drive distributor? Something like the Jesel belt drive with MSD front drive or even Jesel's own front drive? I am leaning that way just so I dont have to worry about pulling the motor or fighting the cowl.
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What do you do about a throttle cable, will one work out of a third gen TBI or carbed car?
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we've always been able to use the stock throttle cable. I just mount the piece that clips onto the manifold to the cowl behind the wipers, then run the cable through the "screen".

And we've also used the front mount dist. w/belt drives, it's alot easier that way, just a ton more expensive than a conventional chain and distributor.
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Old 10-24-2005, 06:41 PM
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Brady-How's everything going down there? Give me a call when you get a sec.
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I used a throttle cable from an 85 Z. You will have to modify the hole in the firewall but it worked great for me.
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This is great information. Nice to see some others going this route as well.
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im workin on almost the same project only its a 95 firebird... i never thought of clearancing for any of that...im also trying to turn it into a ws6 clone but carburated 350 will some of this stuff on your thread be close to the same?and yea wat is a trigger and gutless distributor? ive never heard of that on your pics of the camaro can you take that plastic piece off to acces the distributer?



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