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Old 01-13-2008, 07:21 PM
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gotta ditch the 2.73s man..... i might have to just order a 150 shot from summit to stay ahead of you.
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You'll get your 12's after the headers.
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n20??? im an all motor man myself. hope you hook that juice up right. or your SOL! hey cainsw who around here can tune my car after the headers. just to get me by till i install the cam?
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chris (taws6m6) that reminds me what size were your old gears? were they 3.73s? if so ill take them off your hands!
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3.42's. And there is a bolt sheared off the carrier. They have been through hell, i dont think you can install those gears in a 2 seriers carrier anyways. Go to the gear section and do a little reading on the stickies about 2 series and 3 series carriers. It is more involved than you might think...
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Originally Posted by hammerdown2000
n20??? im an all motor man myself. hope you hook that juice up right. or your SOL! hey cainsw who around here can tune my car after the headers. just to get me by till i install the cam?
yeah when you find out im in too.
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It's a waste of time and $$ to tune with just headers. You won't pick up anything and it really doesn't need it anyway. I really can't point you to a tuner. I bought LS1EDIT and did our 2 cars. My uncle used Ed Wright and hasn't had any trouble. But don't waste your money on a tune until you get your cam installed
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Originally Posted by taws6m6
3.42's. And there is a bolt sheared off the carrier. They have been through hell, i dont think you can install those gears in a 2 seriers carrier anyways. Go to the gear section and do a little reading on the stickies about 2 series and 3 series carriers. It is more involved than you might think...
you have to buy your gears to fit the 2 series carrier.That or buy an new ring and carrier.Some say the 2 seires gear is better becaus it is thicker.
They have them at jegs,sumit.
I can turn you on to a good tuner when you get ready.But agree that you dont really need one until you cam it but this guy does unlimited tunes for one flat fee.I have had mine tuned like 4-5 times now..
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kool kool guys! have any of yall installed gears? ive done a rear end swap but did not mess with the gears. if i order them, what else will i need? and do yall think we could get together one weekend and put them in?
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Originally Posted by cainsw
It's a waste of time and $$ to tune with just headers. You won't pick up anything and it really doesn't need it anyway. I really can't point you to a tuner. I bought LS1EDIT and did our 2 cars. My uncle used Ed Wright and hasn't had any trouble. But don't waste your money on a tune until you get your cam installed
You seem like the man to talk to about cams and such. Not real familiar with them. I know a little, i am not totally in the dark. I have a few questions. I see you are running a tr224. From what i see, thats not a totally giant cam, kind of in the middle. (correct me if i am wrong) But you are running a really good time, stock heads and such. Seems like most people think of a big cam once you approach the 228/228 range. Is an 11.29 the time one could expect with a tr224? Give or take a little of course. If you dont mind me asking what kind of numbers are you putting down? With a cam that size is a tune imperative? I remember a while back you saying that a tune was not totally needed for all cams. I am guessing that is with some of the smaller ones. Would not getting a tune with a cam possibly mess up you engine? What are the dangers of camming a high mileage motor, say 100k? Would more of the internals need to be replaced to insure a healthy running engine? I plan on doing some motor work this year, i have been working on my drivetrain first so it can handle it. I have quite a few miles on my car now. And i really dont want to buy another one(now). What are the dangers of putting a cam in my car? I am sorry for all the questions man. Just curious and you seem to know what you are talking about...help clear up some confusion for me
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Originally Posted by hammerdown2000
kool kool guys! have any of yall installed gears? ive done a rear end swap but did not mess with the gears. if i order them, what else will i need? and do yall think we could get together one weekend and put them in?
You might want to leave that to a professional. Setting up gears and backlash can be a nightmare. If you are off even the smallest amount it can be noisey and a pain in the *** to do. I have read many horror stories about gear setups...
not sure what it entails, i'd be happy to help you though

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taws6m6 ifhe doesnt reply to you tonight... i was reading in, umm, i think it was in that high performance ls1 book that we were discussing., or maybe it was on ls1 how to... i cant remember but it said if you put a mild cam into your car you will not necessarily need a tune anything bigger like average - aggressive you will deff. need a tune. i really think it was on ls1how to though. check it out.

if you want to we can do your car first and do mine after, so if we **** yo **** up we wont do it to mine. lol jp! ive installed to many cams at work i think i should be good. btw are you gonna pay a pro. to install yours? cause ive got allot of the tools to install mine!
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i dont know, i have heard alot of different stuff bout installing cams on a high mileage motor. And when i do it, its gonna be borderline average, i am not gonna get the biggest one i can get. But i want to be happy with my choice reasonably large but still streetable. I will do a lot more research before i get ready, I dont want to have to rebuild my motor afterwards tho. If i have to replace all the internals to do it and be safe then thats what i will do.
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same here.... i hear you on doing it the safest way. im also going to go with a average size cam, no to big but not to small either. i think i would be happy with that tr224. my friend with a goat has one in his and was talking about selling it to me nov. of last year for 150.00 so im thinking of that cam.
Old 01-13-2008, 11:23 PM
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Make sure you get what you want man, do some research, Get something with a good overlap if you want that choppy idle. I want mine to lope, gotta sound good
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i want it to lope like a son-of -a-bitch. but, still want it streetable. i wonder what would be the best cam for those two?
Old 01-13-2008, 11:43 PM
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damn i just realized we have 17 pages.... wtf man? lol i guess this was a good tread! also im still at 57 posts? that **** is annoying, it makes me look like im a newbie.
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When ya'll do your cam it would be wise to get a better valve springs & pushrods. I would personally get new lifters ( that would mean pulling heads ). You don't have to do lifters, but with high mileage I would think about it. A high volume oil pump & new timing chain would be nice. Just my 2 cents
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im doing it all except lifters. thats just me. i dont really believe mine need to be changed yet. but deff. new pr, valve spr., retainers, ls6 oil pump(high volume oil), and timing chain set(double roller)
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Originally Posted by hammerdown2000
damn i just realized we have 17 pages.... wtf man? lol i guess this was a good tread! also im still at 57 posts? that **** is annoying, it makes me look like im a newbie.
We aren't here to count posts or pages Jeff


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