01ssreda4

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lol at 57 posts.......newb

blue98Z

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Yeah, you have to go to one of the other forum sections to get your posts up cause it won't do it in the regionals.

firemedic0135

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hey jeff I know a spot were you can send your info(specs,what you want your car to do) and they will custom spec you a cam for 25 bucks.then you send it to Thunder racing and they grind it for you.I gotta get the addy from my guy tommorow cause I have lost it somewere.I'll let you know bro.

firemedic0135

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oh yeah dont feel bad about your little post count size isnt everything I only have 13

blue98Z

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firemedic, what compression ratio did milling your heads give you? I'm just curious with your mods cause your putting down some high number's. Most of the time you see cam only cars making that kinda power.

firemedic0135

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it should be 11.5:1
Thats what my mech said.They came milled though I didnt have them milled.
here is the dyno sheet

cainsw

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You can't really judge by my car. It is light, 3350 with me in it. Keep it small on the cam, and yes a tr224 is small. I just swapped it out for a tx spd. 228/581 and I picked up 0000. I'll be swapping back to the tr224 this week. Now, a 6 spd car can get away without a tune as long as you keep it small. I had a comp 222/222 561/561 112 I ran for years with no tune and it would run 11.8-9's@ around 117-118 all day long at full weight. I got it tuned and it went a best of 11.65@120.

As far as #'s go, It dynoed 371rwhp and 380 rwtp. This was with a stock tune, LS6 intake and stock TB. It now has a FAST 78mm, my tune & a ported TB. I'd say it would dyno around 400 maybe. I haven't had a chance to dyno it since I swapped all those parts.
I'd expect one with a tr224 cam full weight to run in the 11.8@ somewhere around 117. These motors are not hurt with 100k on em. Don't worry about that! Cam that sucker and have fun

taws6m6

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Thanks for the info man. The cam you have seems to be right around my goal. I am not trying to build an all out beast. But low 12's or high 11's with a cam only setup is kind of what i am looking for. And if i wanted more i could always turn to the heads next. I am gonna look into something around there. Hate to copy someone, I'll do some reasearch before deciding. I guess its just me, I see guys running larger cams than that and still not running the #'s you are running. I have a understanding about power under the curve and all that, I have seen larger cams lose to a smaller cammed car plenty of times. So if i went with something in that range i would not need to replace the lifters, springs, retainers? I will do the oil pump for sure and chain.

cainsw

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You'd definitely want to swap spring no matter what cam you go with. I just put Comp 918's on mine and left everything else stock and that been 4-5 years now with no problems. And mine goes to the track prolly 2-3 times a month. The stocker are very wimpy. There are tons of fast cars with smaller cams. Yes, bigger cams are faster, if you are willing to spin your motor high. I'm not Just a little extra info for you to consider.

My dad's car is a full weight a4 TA, it had the bigger tx spd cam in it and it would mph good on the top end but it would not 60ft and wouldn't run the number. We swapped it out and put a 224/228 561/566 112 in it and it picked up .15 in 60ft and about .25 in 1/4. Yet it lost about 3 mph on the top and it is way more drivable. Oh, don't worry about coping someones setup. I'm sure it doesn't matter which way you go, you'll be coping someone anyway. You need any advice on any of this stuff don't hesitate to ask for it, I don't

taws6m6

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Hey man thanks for the help. I just read the cam and spring install on the ls1howto. Cleared up alot of questions i had. I plan on doing something this year in a couple of months. I spent last year beefing up the drivetrain. I always wanted to do the cam first, but i knew it wasnt right and i would end up with my **** in the driveway with busted clutches and rears. I think the install is something i could very well do with a buddy. Just was unsure cause i had never done it. I do all my installs and help others with theirs. I have just never gone into internals. I think we will do hammerdown's first incase we mess something up! (JK Jeff!) Well, here in the next few months i will definatley be on my way to putting down some more power. And you're right, this stuff is addicting. I decided last year i was no longer gonna let my car stay stock anymore. My car started at a base of 13.77 consistently, and in 6 months time i have gotten to my present time (and $5500 later). My goal is hopefully a high to mid 11. Of course i'll be doing a cage(maybe)

cainsw

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It is a very easy swap and it gets easier everytime you do one. Let me know when you get ready to do one and I'll give you some pointers. It's nothing like swapping a cam in an old school small block, much much easier!

blue98Z

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firemedic, once again good number's man. Looks like you already have a beast of a car. It'll be a monster if you cam and stall that thing.

firemedic0135

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Thanks it really runs strong now and has a real punch to it ...feels great.

well we talked about putting in a cam/stall when we did the heads and intake but I was scared to cam and stall with the stock shortblock with 106k miles on it.
I think we are going to get a ls2 iron block and punch it out or just stroke the ls1 havn't decided yet.

taws6m6

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see, there it is again. Someone worried about camming a high mileage motor. Whats the deal? What are the dangers?

firemedic0135

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My fear is that I throw a rod through the block or worse yet destroy the new heads.Not only that I dont want to put myself in the position of having to rebuild,I want to do it when I have the money not have to take out a loan to fix it you know.
Not only that but if I cam it now I am pretty sure I am going to trash my 106K 4L60E and mabye my 10 bolt the way I drive.Just need to get a few things in order first so I dont open a can of worms.

blue98Z

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The fear of camming a high mileage motor comes from all the old school blocks. In one of them you was pushing it putting a cam in a 70k mile motor. These motors nowadays especially the ls motors are a whole different motor as far as durability. Another thing with these motors is with the 98-00 motors it would be a good idea to put in some ARP rod bolts if you plan on spinning the motor over 6000rpms alot. All in all these motors will handle a cam swap at 100k, but one thing you need to look at is high mileage drivetrain components cause it won't take much before they start acting up or blow up. Firemedic is looking at this in a good way by not doing to much until he has the money. Taws6m6, you are also doing good by doing the drivetrain first. These M6's will literally explode everything from the tailshaft back if you put anymore power than stock and abuse it. All I lack is my 9" then it's time for a cam atleast. Hope this helps ya'll.

firemedic0135

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thanks for some good advice!!!

blue98Z

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^^^Anytime man. I've been a mechanic for over 14yrs and love it. It's not my profession cause I don't want it to get old, but I'm always working on mine or some of my buddies stuff cause I just enjoy doing it. I've been wanting to get together with ya'll on some of ya'll meetings, but I'm always working when ya'll meet up. The track will be back open full blown soon and ya'll will see/ meet me out there. Hopefully I can get this thing to hook up and get the times I think it will.

cainsw

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My 98 m6 Z had a cam swap done at around 30000 miles, it now has about 70-75k on it and north of 2500 passes. Never broke anything but a 9" rearend, a motor mount, trans mount and about 4 slave cylinders. It's funny, I never killed a 10 bolt but I have managed to break 3-4 9"s. The single disc McLeod clutch lasted about 2000 of those passes. Don't be afraid to cam an LS engine with north of 100k on it. I had one that had about 100k on it that was sts turbo'd, tore it down and the cylinders still looked good with no ridge. These bad boys are just getting going with 100k on em

hammerdown2000

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so how bad of an idea is it to cam my car without a 12 bolt?