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Old 01-14-2009, 06:54 AM
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Default 427 and 454 GMMG cars converted.

There is no thread related to phase I and II GMMG (Berger, Tom Henry, Harrell,...) cars which have been being converted to 427 and 454. This post would be a good chance to view photos and information about those amazing cars.

Please, post photos.

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there has to be something somewhere wtf?
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What exactly are you looking for?

You couldn’t find anything through a search. I know there are some people who have gone back and forth with different builds.
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You know that's a really good question. There are many threads on these, but to my knowledge there has never been one dedicatied to specifc production totals regarding P3(and higher) upgrades on the various GMMG cars.

At last count there are 99 GMMG cars uprated with the C5R 427 P3 package.
They are in Berger,DH,BB,PE,HR,and ZL1 cars. For nearly seven years of availability that's a very low amount.

I don't think there were any Tom Henry P3 cars built(to date),definitely not any P3 Earnhardt Intimidators(to date) anyone else feel free to jump in as it's all going off fading memory.

At least one (or three) have the P5 454 configuration,which is the displacement they will be going as C5R block production is pretty much over.

There are two P4 SR427's,one was in ZL1#3 Grumpy's toy,and the other in Intimidator #20.

Best bet is to call Matt,he will have all the exact info right in his head.
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What are the P4 SR427s ??
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I thought Mike@ Vengeance had 2 of the 454 cars. A black SS and a yellow CETA. Could be wrong tho
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WTF...i didn't know they made 454 cars....what block did they use? LSX or resleeved aluminum block or what?
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Default 427 and 454 GMMG cars converted.

Originally Posted by SS DNA
What are the P4 SR427s ??
Mike Carnahan (when he was the lead tech at GMMG) owned the first phase IV solid roller Camaro, the #69 ZL1 which was a tribute to Grumpy Jenkins:


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Originally Posted by 2000_SS
WTF...i didn't know they made 454 cars....what block did they use? LSX or resleeved aluminum block or what?
Nils (NEW here on this forum board) has a 2002 Hot Rod Magazine Camaro with a 454 in it. Mike Carahan and Ron Mowen flew to Norway and did the installation and modification of his Hot Rod Camaro there.

Do a search on NEW here on this forum board and you can see some pic's that he has posted of his car and possibly a video as well that was taken in Norway of him doing a spectacular burnout with it.
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Originally Posted by 2000_SS
WTF...i didn't know they made 454 cars....what block did they use? LSX or resleeved aluminum block or what?
C5R block
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Hey guys..

454 cui, C5R, 597 RWHP........

Check this out.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YLWdllzv5E
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Originally Posted by NEW
Hey guys..

454 cui, C5R, 597 RWHP........

Check this out.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YLWdllzv5E
Damn, that sounds awesome!!!

Do you own the prototype Dick Harrell car as well????
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No, i do not own Ron's DH Prototype. I just shot the movie when i visited him a couple of years ago.

I am pretty sure Ron has sold the car now, somewhere in the states.

Nils
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Nils,

Nice to see you on the forum board ! ! ! ! !

Don't be a stranger ! ! ! ! !

Stop by and visit with us guys in the states more often ! ! ! ! !
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Originally Posted by NEW
No, i do not own Ron's DH Prototype. I just shot the movie when i visited him a couple of years ago.

I am pretty sure Ron has sold the car now, somewhere in the states.

Nils
I gotcha! I remember him telling me he sold the car but I'm not sure who bought it. Just being nosy!!!
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Originally Posted by 02_Phase2_ZL1
Nils,

Nice to see you on the forum board ! ! ! ! !

Don't be a stranger ! ! ! ! !

Stop by and visit with us guys in the states more often ! ! ! ! !
Hey, thanks.!!!

Your'e right i really should socialize more. Just having to much work for the time...

NIls
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Default Was #69 ZL-1 originally black?

Was Grumpy's car re-painted white (or off white)?
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Here's a GMMG photo of last ZL-1 #69 & it's black. Now I'm confused

Can anyone help me here. see link...

http://www.daytonapacecars.com/id51.html

I'm trying to fill in the blanks.

Thanks Jim

Originally Posted by 02_Phase2_ZL1
Mike Carnahan (when he was the lead tech at GMMG) owned the first phase IV solid roller Camaro, the #69 ZL1 which was a tribute to Grumpy Jenkins:


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Like most GMMG repaints it started out as a black b4c and was painted 69 code 50, dover white.
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Originally Posted by daytonajim
Was Grumpy's car re-painted white (or off white)?
Attachment 202669

Here's a GMMG photo of last ZL-1 #69 & it's black. Now I'm confused

Can anyone help me here. see link...

http://www.daytonapacecars.com/id51.html

I'm trying to fill in the blanks.

Thanks Jim
Dick Harrell Camaro (quoted by Jim)http://www.daytonapacecars.com/id51.html
30 of the 69 ZL1’s are Dick Harrell Cars plus 3 prototypes & 1 Pilot car (very wrong) Zl1s are not Dick Harrell cars.

Note to Jim. Before you print, make sure you have your facts correct.
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Default Thanks for the corection........

Updates & corrections are always appreciated. I've been gathering information & photos for a few years now.

Thanks to everyone that is assisting & helping with accurate information.

Often it's difficult to verify information until someone points it out a mistake. The good news is that people are looking at the site, reading the information & pointing out incorrect information. I'm far from an expert & just attempting to have GMMG information in one place. A big thanks!

Matt Murphy visited me Oct. 17th & 18th & signed some of the cars. Matt really hepled out clarifying some things.

If anyone has any GMMG information, photos, car #'s, please e-mail me @ jimsmt@lakeland.ws

2010 HRPT info ........http://www.daytonapacecars.com/id59.html

It would be great to see some GMMG Cars on the PT - maybe a reunion?

Again, thanks Jim

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