grb

That's cheap. I'll have to go to BJ's site and check that car out. If it's a good one the new owner can upgrade it virtually free. Speed $5K or 10 and make 15 or 20.

Vengeance Racing

One major thing I notice when poeple talk about GMMG cars is they really do no know what they are looking at. A ZL1 car has many many changes that most people including the owner of these cars even don't know about. The ZL1 Nitro filled Penske shocks were custom made (I know how much they cost let just say THOUSANDS YEAH THOUSANDS!!!) or how about all the 1LE arms on the car (not that you can get them anymore Discontinued) Or the custom made handmade swaybar on the front of a ZL1 car and ON and ON and ON!!! These cars have many cool unique things that only the poeple of GMMG know about. Not that it is some big secret but this information is usually misunderstood. These cars are way way more than just a drop in LS6 motor and some wheels. People who say that have no idea what they are talking about in this post. I could go on and on about this all day. I worked for GMMG for 5 years and built most of the cars you guys are talking about. I am very proud of these cars and I still own 3 GMMG cars myself and I plan on keeping 1 or 2 for a LONG time.

grb

I'd like to add a couple myself........specifically that damn Hot Rod car that some SOB stole for $33k at Barrett/Jackson!

02_Phase2_ZL1

Thanks Mike for your comments ! ! !

I agree with you, the GMMG cars are certainly misunderstood. Everyone thinks they know everything there is to know about them, particularly the folks that don't own one. You certainly have pointed out that even "us" , the owners of these cars, really know very little about them.

HOTROD1974

grb, just so you know...Berger Chevrolet sold a used '02 red HOT ROD Phase I
(black hockey stripes) 37,xxx miles on e-bay a couple of weeks ago. The high bid was $21K and it sold. The pictures show the car was in great shape. Now that one was a steal!!

grb

Thanks for the info Hotrod. I'm feeling better already.

grb

OK, I'll admit it. I'm bored as Hell. Gotta be bored to re-read an old thread......but, I have discovered something. Also, women can change their minds so I can too.

Think about it. Nine Ball is a highly respected expert on matters of this sort (having to do with late model GM cars). And Xsta Z 28 is no lightweight! Consider too that New, 02 and I are biased. Very biased. And everybody knows that bias is wrong. Right?

Considering the above I am going to do the right thing. I will help a fellow man. I will be righteous.

GMMG cars are over-valued. I'm going with Nine Ball's $50k figure on the ZL1.

Therefore; Xsta Z 28 I hereby make the following, binding offer for YOUR blue Berger SS (I saw your pictures and your garage is too crowded too!)......no, my first offer would seem like a despicable low-ball offer...so here it is......$3,250.00

Please let me know ASAP as I have other offers to make!

BTW - does Matt update his records? For instance, my ZL1 went from a Phase I to a Phase III+ (supercharged you know) and now it's a Phase II R__X. Come to think of it I think he does because he makes the new ID stuff when you upgrade.

EvilBLK02TA

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GRB, you are my hero/idol!!! By the sounds of it, you know your stuff, and you've got one sweet garage with your Phase II R_X. Eveybody else who owns these cars- you guys/gals truely are lucky to have a great piece of History and you shouldnt care what someone else says to you about your cars. Most people who know even the slightest bit about these cars would die to have one..... can I be added to the list who wants to buy one but has no money?

grb

Evil my friend, you an extremely perceptive and wise man. You are to be admired. And yes, you will be added to the list!

LateBrakeU2

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http://gmmginc.net/media/Video/

Nuff said

02 BLK WS6

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I thought that I'd throw my input out there on the Berger Camaro/Blackbird.

They are a limited production collector car. If I had my choice and had the money, I would own an SOM Blackbird.

JUICED96Z

WOW!!

Xsta Z 28

iTrader: (2)

SOLD!!! . . .

No not really . . . multiply that by at least 10 . . . then double it . . and then we can start negotiating!

Thanks for the generous offer.

grb

Xsta - that figure does not jive with your previous assessment of the value of GMMG cars. I'm a sport though. I will double the offer to $6,500.

02_Phase2_ZL1

I'm glad Matt posted the video on his website. He told me a couple of days ago on the telephone that he was going to do it. This video was mailed out to alot of us GMMG owners on DVD 6 months or so ago from Matt.

In the video when it shows the magazine article on "'02 ZL-1 Camaros", the black one pictured is mine ! ! ! That picture was taken in the parking lot of my business ! ! The magazine was the April 2004 issue of Chevy Rumble.

Nine Ball

iTrader: (38)

you guys are funny

Hell, maybe I'll get a Berger '09. They look nice.

Xsta Z 28

iTrader: (2)

How do you figure?

That base ZL1 was about $54,00 new, I just felt $80,000 was a bit high . . . Did I say other wise?

So why insult me?

grb

Yes, as a matter of fact you said it was "stupidly ridiculous"...and the buyer paid $88K not 80. And please spare me the drama. An insult would be something like 'you blue oval ***-ed, brainless f***, who made you the arbiter and imperial potentate of all Camaro values???
Who TF are you to tell someone what they bought is worth you ignorant POS.......'<----kind of like that. I didn't say that.

It would have also been a bit insulting to point out that 'sence' is spelled 'sense'. I didn't do that either! <---see, that generally means their is no animosity attached.

02_Phase2_ZL1

Andy..............I honestly didn't see any insult there in Ray's post either. The way that I read it was............he was just poking a little fun at ya. If this forum...............hobby................ever becomes that serious where we can't have any fun............then it is time to get out.

Lighten up alittle. Everyone has their own opinion. You are certainly entitled to yours..............and the rest of us are entitled to ours.

Xsta Z 28

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Fine I'll take my opinions, my $6,500 Berger and go lighten up . . . .