TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks!
01-17-2003, 11:31 AM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Gearhead - TCI would restall a Street Fighter 3000 to get your 3,200 RPM stall. Are you wanting the 2.2:1 STR of the Street Fighter or the harder-hitting STR of 2.5:1 that the Super Street Fighter has? It will simply give you a harder hit off of the line, and a higher STR will make the converter feel tighter than the same stall with a lower STR. With a 3,200, I don't think you'll have to worry with a loose, mushy feeling, though. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> As for the WOT shift extensions, you can expect them to be around 3,900-4,000 RPM or so with 3.23's and shift points around 6,000 RPM. Lastly, shipping will be $23 to you.
Kyle - Shipping to 95548 would be $35. And yes, we are open on Saturdays. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> You can e-mail me your phone number and the best time to call, and I can give you a call to get all of your information.
2000SilverTA - Yes, the performance of the Competition 4400 would be comparable to the PT4400. With 3.73:1 gears and shift points around 6,600 RPM, your shift extensions should be around 5,600-5,700 RPM. FYI, my PT4400 has shift extensions of 5,700 with 3.73's and 6,600 RPM shift points.
Keep the questions coming!
Trevor
Kyle - Shipping to 95548 would be $35. And yes, we are open on Saturdays. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> You can e-mail me your phone number and the best time to call, and I can give you a call to get all of your information.
2000SilverTA - Yes, the performance of the Competition 4400 would be comparable to the PT4400. With 3.73:1 gears and shift points around 6,600 RPM, your shift extensions should be around 5,600-5,700 RPM. FYI, my PT4400 has shift extensions of 5,700 with 3.73's and 6,600 RPM shift points.
Keep the questions coming!
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01-17-2003, 01:15 PM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Jason - Yes, they do make converters for the V6 f-bodies. It's listed as a Street Fighter converter, and it stalls 3,500 RPM. A custom stall can be ordered, though. I could get one for $415.99 + shipping.
2000SilverTA - I sent you e-mail back. I can be reached at 214-507-3669.
Trevor
2000SilverTA - I sent you e-mail back. I can be reached at 214-507-3669.
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Do the 22k GVW coolers come with a install kit? Whats the best way to contact you if we want a custom stall?
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Alright Trevor great deal!! I held off on the cam GP because you suggestion a TC first...I am reading to buy! Just need some input on what I should get...stock tires/2.73's/daily driver
Thanks Trevor!
Kevin Zack
Thanks Trevor!
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Trevor
Do you ship to Canada I live near Toronto Canada could you give me a rough price for about a 3200 stall I'm driving a 2001SS with just air and exhaust mods with lid I don't want to spin the tires off because this is driven on the street only possibly a little 1/8th mile track running so Im staying with stock tires so if it spins too much I'll probably loose ground what do you recomend sorry it's so long please let me knowon price with exchange and a rough shipping price seperate I have a brother in Florida till april that could be another alternative if I had to thanks..
Do you ship to Canada I live near Toronto Canada could you give me a rough price for about a 3200 stall I'm driving a 2001SS with just air and exhaust mods with lid I don't want to spin the tires off because this is driven on the street only possibly a little 1/8th mile track running so Im staying with stock tires so if it spins too much I'll probably loose ground what do you recomend sorry it's so long please let me knowon price with exchange and a rough shipping price seperate I have a brother in Florida till april that could be another alternative if I had to thanks..
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Trevor D:
<strong> Gearhead - TCI would restall a Street Fighter 3000 to get your 3,200 RPM stall. Are you wanting the 2.2:1 STR of the Street Fighter or the harder-hitting STR of 2.5:1 that the Super Street Fighter has? It will simply give you a harder hit off of the line, and a higher STR will make the converter feel tighter than the same stall with a lower STR. With a 3,200, I don't think you'll have to worry with a loose, mushy feeling, though
Trevor </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Trevor, I'd prefer a tighter converter for around town driving (that's most of my driving) but still want decent shift extension for highway running.
If the converter were for you, would you prefer the SF3000 2.2 stalled up to 3200 or the SSF3500 2.5 stalled down to 3200? Is the only difference tightness? I was under the impression one would be more efficient converter and/or would have better street and strip performance? Again, thanks for your time/advice.
<strong> Gearhead - TCI would restall a Street Fighter 3000 to get your 3,200 RPM stall. Are you wanting the 2.2:1 STR of the Street Fighter or the harder-hitting STR of 2.5:1 that the Super Street Fighter has? It will simply give you a harder hit off of the line, and a higher STR will make the converter feel tighter than the same stall with a lower STR. With a 3,200, I don't think you'll have to worry with a loose, mushy feeling, though
Trevor </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Trevor, I'd prefer a tighter converter for around town driving (that's most of my driving) but still want decent shift extension for highway running.
If the converter were for you, would you prefer the SF3000 2.2 stalled up to 3200 or the SSF3500 2.5 stalled down to 3200? Is the only difference tightness? I was under the impression one would be more efficient converter and/or would have better street and strip performance? Again, thanks for your time/advice.
01-18-2003, 12:28 AM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Thanks Trevor. I guess I am gonna have to get in on this GP. You have mail.
Also, do yall have a phone number you can be reached at?
Also, do yall have a phone number you can be reached at?
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! ordered my competition 4400 today. thanks Trevor.
Gearhead, you will want MORE stall after you get it. You ought to go ahead and get the 3500 2.5. You will be very happy with that size converter for a long time.
Gearhead, you will want MORE stall after you get it. You ought to go ahead and get the 3500 2.5. You will be very happy with that size converter for a long time.
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by KraZy:
<strong> Alright Trevor great deal!! I held off on the cam GP because you suggestion a TC first...I am reading to buy! Just need some input on what I should get...stock tires/2.73's/daily driver
Thanks Trevor!
Kevin Zack </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have 2.73 Gears also, I just ordered the SSF3500, it will prob be a little loose, but loose doesnt bother me, if you want a little tighter I would prob run the SF3000, just depends how loose you can stand...
BTW thanks Trevor Great Prices, and I will get back to you on that cam we discussed <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
<strong> Alright Trevor great deal!! I held off on the cam GP because you suggestion a TC first...I am reading to buy! Just need some input on what I should get...stock tires/2.73's/daily driver
Thanks Trevor!
Kevin Zack </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have 2.73 Gears also, I just ordered the SSF3500, it will prob be a little loose, but loose doesnt bother me, if you want a little tighter I would prob run the SF3000, just depends how loose you can stand...
BTW thanks Trevor Great Prices, and I will get back to you on that cam we discussed <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
01-18-2003, 05:14 PM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! 02 Silver Z - Yes, the trans. coolers will come with the basic install accessories. If you would like a custom stall, you can give me a call at the number posted above or e-mail me. It will take a few days to have it built at TCI, but it will be with the exact stall and STR that you specify. You won't have to wait weeks for it to get built, so don't worry about that.
KraZy - Again, torque converters, like cams, are very subjective. What works great for one person may be too big or small for someone else. A higher STR will help some with the looseness in driving around town. If it were my car, I would stick a Super Street Fighter 3500 in. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> If you think that will be too much for you, then we could get a 3200 stall made with a 2.5:1 STR.
Jalbert - You could still go with a 3,500 stall but with a lower STR if you wanted something that did not hit the tires very hard. We could go with a Super Street Fighter 3500 with a 2.0:1 STR if you wanted to. This will give you the added advantage of the better shift extensions with the higher stall and still have something that does not hit overly hard off of the line. If you were to go with a 3,200 stall, I would go with a restalled Street Fighter. It will still be a pretty tight street converter, and the 2.2:1 STR won't be too bad IMO. Again, we can adjust the STR on the Street Fighter, too.
Gearhead - It's six on one or half-dozen on the other. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> We'll essentially end up with the same converter, no matter if we stall down a Super Street Fighter or stall up a Street Fighter. It sounds like a Street Fighter stalled up to a 3,200 with the same 2.2:1 STR would work well for you. It would give you the added shift extension around 4,000 RPM or so and still be pretty tight on the street for daily driving.
2000SilverTA - Let me know how you like your 4400! I think you'll be VERY pleased with the results. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
00REDZ28 - A converter and cam will make your car into a completely different beast! Let me know when you're ready to order your custom-grind cam. We can get any cam ground from Comp Cams typically in 10-14 days.
Thanks to everyone for their orders! If any of you still have questions about which converter is best for you, just post up or e-mail me. I'm here to help.
Trevor
KraZy - Again, torque converters, like cams, are very subjective. What works great for one person may be too big or small for someone else. A higher STR will help some with the looseness in driving around town. If it were my car, I would stick a Super Street Fighter 3500 in. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> If you think that will be too much for you, then we could get a 3200 stall made with a 2.5:1 STR.
Jalbert - You could still go with a 3,500 stall but with a lower STR if you wanted something that did not hit the tires very hard. We could go with a Super Street Fighter 3500 with a 2.0:1 STR if you wanted to. This will give you the added advantage of the better shift extensions with the higher stall and still have something that does not hit overly hard off of the line. If you were to go with a 3,200 stall, I would go with a restalled Street Fighter. It will still be a pretty tight street converter, and the 2.2:1 STR won't be too bad IMO. Again, we can adjust the STR on the Street Fighter, too.
Gearhead - It's six on one or half-dozen on the other. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> We'll essentially end up with the same converter, no matter if we stall down a Super Street Fighter or stall up a Street Fighter. It sounds like a Street Fighter stalled up to a 3,200 with the same 2.2:1 STR would work well for you. It would give you the added shift extension around 4,000 RPM or so and still be pretty tight on the street for daily driving.
2000SilverTA - Let me know how you like your 4400! I think you'll be VERY pleased with the results. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
00REDZ28 - A converter and cam will make your car into a completely different beast! Let me know when you're ready to order your custom-grind cam. We can get any cam ground from Comp Cams typically in 10-14 days.
Thanks to everyone for their orders! If any of you still have questions about which converter is best for you, just post up or e-mail me. I'm here to help.
Trevor
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Trevor D:
<strong> Gearhead - It's six on one or half-dozen on the other. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> We'll essentially end up with the same converter, no matter if we stall down a Super Street Fighter or stall up a Street Fighter. It sounds like a Street Fighter stalled up to a 3,200 with the same 2.2:1 STR would work well for you. It would give you the added shift extension around 4,000 RPM or so and still be pretty tight on the street for daily driving.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Trevor,
In a prior post, you said that a higher STR would make the car feel tighter. Based on that, why would you opt for the SF3000 2.2 w/ the stall raised to 3200 as opposed to the SSF3500 2.5 with the stall dropped to 3200? Is the 2.2 STR more efficient or something? I'm not clear on why the lower STR SF3000 is the better converter to buy. Thanks again. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
2000 SilverTA, I'm thinking the 3500 2.5 will be too loose for a daily-driven LT1 car. I am going to see about driving a friend's LS1 Yank ST3500 car.
<strong> Gearhead - It's six on one or half-dozen on the other. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> We'll essentially end up with the same converter, no matter if we stall down a Super Street Fighter or stall up a Street Fighter. It sounds like a Street Fighter stalled up to a 3,200 with the same 2.2:1 STR would work well for you. It would give you the added shift extension around 4,000 RPM or so and still be pretty tight on the street for daily driving.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Trevor,
In a prior post, you said that a higher STR would make the car feel tighter. Based on that, why would you opt for the SF3000 2.2 w/ the stall raised to 3200 as opposed to the SSF3500 2.5 with the stall dropped to 3200? Is the 2.2 STR more efficient or something? I'm not clear on why the lower STR SF3000 is the better converter to buy. Thanks again. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
2000 SilverTA, I'm thinking the 3500 2.5 will be too loose for a daily-driven LT1 car. I am going to see about driving a friend's LS1 Yank ST3500 car.
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Trevor - I currently run the Yank Y3200 which has a STR of 1.86. I was thinking of a custom stall
of 4000 with a 2.5 STR. What gains can I expect
and what about efficiency/top end? I want a harder hit for the track when I run ET Streets, but really don't want to lose the top end for the hwy. Would this setup work? TIA.
of 4000 with a 2.5 STR. What gains can I expect
and what about efficiency/top end? I want a harder hit for the track when I run ET Streets, but really don't want to lose the top end for the hwy. Would this setup work? TIA.
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Trevor - I have a couple of more questions. Would they do a 3800 stall with a 2.2 STR? I don't want too much looseness for the street. Would this setup (if possible)be worth changing converters?
And would the GP price still apply? Once again, thanks.
And would the GP price still apply? Once again, thanks.
01-20-2003, 12:19 AM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! Lesrace82 - I will have pricing on it tomorrow. I had a game of phone tag going on Friday to get pricing. I will let you know tomorrow for sure.
Gearhead - Yes, a lower STR does help with the efficiency of the converter. I recommend the 2.2:1 STR because it won't hit the tires as hard, so it will help with stoplight-to-stoplight traction. You will end up with the same converter if you stall down and lower the STR of a SSF 3500 vs. raising the stall speed and STR of a SF3000.
BLKTA - You will notice a HUGE difference between the current 3,200 stall with 1.86:1 STR and a 2.5:1 STR 4,000 stall! I would conservatively expect another solid .3, if not more, from the converter swap. You should pick up a solid .15-.2 just in the 60'! You do lose some efficiency with the larger torque converters, but it will not be too bad. You're going to gain a lot more just from the added shift extension from the higher stall. You will definitely have the harder hit when you're on ET Streets! <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
Let me know if you have any other questions.
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Gearhead - Yes, a lower STR does help with the efficiency of the converter. I recommend the 2.2:1 STR because it won't hit the tires as hard, so it will help with stoplight-to-stoplight traction. You will end up with the same converter if you stall down and lower the STR of a SSF 3500 vs. raising the stall speed and STR of a SF3000.
BLKTA - You will notice a HUGE difference between the current 3,200 stall with 1.86:1 STR and a 2.5:1 STR 4,000 stall! I would conservatively expect another solid .3, if not more, from the converter swap. You should pick up a solid .15-.2 just in the 60'! You do lose some efficiency with the larger torque converters, but it will not be too bad. You're going to gain a lot more just from the added shift extension from the higher stall. You will definitely have the harder hit when you're on ET Streets! <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
Let me know if you have any other questions.
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01-20-2003, 10:42 AM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! I'd like to replace my Yank ST3800 with a TCI unit. This will be installed behind an '02 LS6 shortblock and cam topped with a set of TEA Stage II's. I will also be spraying 125-200hp worth of nitrous. Which converter would you recommend?
Thanks,
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01-20-2003, 05:41 PM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! BLKTA - No, it would not be a problem to order a 3,800 stall with a 2.2:1 STR, and it would still be for the GP price of $463.99. The converter would still be worth swapping to, no doubt. You'll still have a harder-hitting converter and approximately 600 more RPM on the shift extensions.
M_Minnick - I think the Super Street Fighter 3500 would be an excellent converter for both N/A and nitrous use. It's the same converter that I'm going to use when I start running nitrous. FYI, I'll be typically spraying a 100 shot, but I'm sure I'll have to try out a 150 shot once or twice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> If you would like it to hit a little softer off of the line, then we can adjust the STR for you. This isn't uncommon for those that are looking to spray out of the hole. I'm going to keep the 2.5:1 STR on mine and just go with more tire. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
NA$TY TA - Thanks for your order! See if they'll let you bring your car on the ship and do some short blasts on the deck. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Trevor
M_Minnick - I think the Super Street Fighter 3500 would be an excellent converter for both N/A and nitrous use. It's the same converter that I'm going to use when I start running nitrous. FYI, I'll be typically spraying a 100 shot, but I'm sure I'll have to try out a 150 shot once or twice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> If you would like it to hit a little softer off of the line, then we can adjust the STR for you. This isn't uncommon for those that are looking to spray out of the hole. I'm going to keep the 2.5:1 STR on mine and just go with more tire. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
NA$TY TA - Thanks for your order! See if they'll let you bring your car on the ship and do some short blasts on the deck. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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01-20-2003, 06:13 PM
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Re: TCI Torque Converter GP for LS1 and LT1 F-bodies, C5's, and Trucks! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">
M_Minnick - I think the Super Street Fighter 3500 would be an excellent converter for both N/A and nitrous use. It's the same converter that I'm going to use when I start running nitrous. FYI, I'll be typically spraying a 100 shot, but I'm sure I'll have to try out a 150 shot once or twice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> If you would like it to hit a little softer off of the line, then we can adjust the STR for you. This isn't uncommon for those that are looking to spray out of the hole. I'm going to keep the 2.5:1 STR on mine and just go with more tire. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Trevor [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks, Trevor. I was thinking more along the lines of around 4200 to take advantage of the higher shifts points due to the LS6 cam. I'm always on ET Streets for race nights, so i'm not worried too much about hitting the tires too hard, I just don't want to give up much n/a performance. Still think a 3500 is best?
What are the exact differences between the SSF and the Competition converters?
Thanks,
Mike
M_Minnick - I think the Super Street Fighter 3500 would be an excellent converter for both N/A and nitrous use. It's the same converter that I'm going to use when I start running nitrous. FYI, I'll be typically spraying a 100 shot, but I'm sure I'll have to try out a 150 shot once or twice. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> If you would like it to hit a little softer off of the line, then we can adjust the STR for you. This isn't uncommon for those that are looking to spray out of the hole. I'm going to keep the 2.5:1 STR on mine and just go with more tire. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Trevor [/QB]</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Thanks, Trevor. I was thinking more along the lines of around 4200 to take advantage of the higher shifts points due to the LS6 cam. I'm always on ET Streets for race nights, so i'm not worried too much about hitting the tires too hard, I just don't want to give up much n/a performance. Still think a 3500 is best?
What are the exact differences between the SSF and the Competition converters?
Thanks,
Mike