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Old 10-24-2008, 03:15 AM
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this guy is in his mid 40s, and isnt pressed for money as far as i know.
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Ive got a good amount of experience with stangs, and ill tell you a gt40/e303 is the weakest setup you can make for a 5l poostang.

Although if you start building that high rpm power on 302s they run pretty well, and never had one crack. Just lucky i guess.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
I know plenty of 302 based motors that will flat out body slam anything you build with your 351. No offense but damn there are some ignorant statements in this thread.


Dont the blocks crack in 1/2 when you build over 500 horse with the 302? Thats why they sell those faggy girdles to help hold em toghether. the 351 block you can stroke to like 408 fairly cheap and the block doesnt split in half. Either way you still just have a ford
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i got ahold of the mustang driver and he said it puts down around 410 to the wheels.
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id build a 331 before i built a 347. the tend to be more peppy.
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
I know plenty of 302 based motors that will flat out body slam anything you build with your 351. No offense but damn there are some ignorant statements in this thread.
The safest (only?) way to make a 302 REALLY powerful and be fairly reliable is to replace every single part that came as a part of the motor from the factory. I can understand the rotating assembly and heads/cam, but I'd like to atleast be able to keep the factory block. And for the average street-strip car a heads/cam 351W would run harder than a heads/cam 302. Are you saying that the 302 is a better motor than the 351?
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
id build a 331 before i built a 347. the tend to be more peppy.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The safest (only?) way to make a 302 REALLY powerful and be fairly reliable is to replace every single part that came as a part of the motor from the factory. I can understand the rotating assembly and heads/cam, but I'd like to atleast be able to keep the factory block. And for the average street-strip car a heads/cam 351W would run harder than a heads/cam 302. Are you saying that the 302 is a better motor than the 351?
Obviously if you keep the stock block its not going to be powerful. But you take a better block for the 5.0 and throw some boost on it or nitrous and it will take down most anything. If you do the same to a 351 dart block it will make more power, but the 302 based motor can make over 1,000+rwhp. So its not a bad setup. Just takes more $$$ to get there.
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
id build a 331 before i built a 347. the tend to be more peppy.
Thats what I'm doing.
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Originally Posted by lemons12
i have less and less respect for the 347's more and more.. i know there is a select few that are built correctly.. but for the most part, they are turds.
THat's just it....with Carb setups it's difficult. ALOT of people throw VERY SHITTY combo's together and have NO CLUE what they are doing.

Originally Posted by slowponystreetracer
good raceing.I never did like those shitty ford 347 motor kits.They are all peice of ****.80 percent of everything i smoked has had a junky asz 347 in it.junk.my buddy put one in his scotsdale and it had american pride headers , junky *** edelbrock carbrator , mallory distributor , and it had some shitty ford racing cam in it.Anyways i smoked it bad.It had to be at least 23 cars ,would have been worse but i had a blowout POWW and had to stop raceing but he flew by me and said he won but i really smoked him.
Dude....seriously, sit down before your hurt yourself.

Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
I know plenty of 302 based motors that will flat out body slam anything you build with your 351. No offense but damn there are some ignorant statements in this thread.
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i got ahold of the mustang driver and he said it puts down around 410 to the wheels.
Then he can't drive for crap OR he's lying about his power.

Originally Posted by Dynotune04
id build a 331 before i built a 347. the tend to be more peppy.
Yep.

How about a 302 stroked mod motor?
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Good kill. As far as the rest of the thread. I've seen some pretty nasty 302 and 351 builds. I've also seen some complete garbage. It all depends on the combo. Both engines have their pluses and minuses they also have ways to get around the minuses.
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OP, the murder'd out look is killer man. Good kill.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65

How about a 302 stroked mod motor?
284 ci. i like rpm.
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
284 ci. i like rpm.
? plenty of stroked mach motors stick with factory redline?

Or did you mean beyond that? LOL
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if i were to build another motor it would pull to at least 7.5k
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Originally Posted by slowponystreetracer
good raceing.I never did like those shitty ford 347 motor kits.They are all peice of ****.80 percent of everything i smoked has had a junky asz 347 in it.junk.my buddy put one in his scotsdale and it had american pride headers , junky *** edelbrock carbrator , mallory distributor , and it had some shitty ford racing cam in it.Anyways i smoked it bad.It had to be at least 23 cars ,would have been worse but i had a blowout POWW and had to stop raceing but he flew by me and said he won but i really smoked him.
congrats!!!!!!! u are oficially the biggest retard on this site. all ur posts are bs and 4 the record. i know some one who has a stroked 347 cougar that would own ur ***. on all motor!!!
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There is something mismatched on the Mustang for your car to pull him. When my 98 was modded the same as yours(before the stall) I raced my buddys 95 Cobra. Stock heads with a cam and Trickflow trackheat intake, full boltons and 4.10's. From a dig to about 75ish I couldnt even pull him a full car length. I know from a roll with his 5speed and gears he would have given me a hell of a race too. With that intake it pulled fairly hard up top. A win is a win regardless. Not your fault the tard wasted his money on parts that dont produce the power they should. Good kill.
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Originally Posted by ls1passion
congrats!!!!!!! u are oficially the biggest retard on this site. all ur posts are bs and 4 the record. i know some one who has a stroked 347 cougar that would own ur ***. on all motor!!!
Ha is that right? Well i got a 20 dollar bill in my billfold that says my ol white sdime will drag that peice of **** grandma cougar down the road.I havent lost to a junk *** ford yet , hell the peices of **** usually break down before we get a run..Wait ,i have lost to a ford falcon..but i guarundamntee ill put a white stripe on that cougar.My sdime will skin it back son. 20 dollars...get you some son , ill send his peice **** back home ona a gawddamn trailor.
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Originally Posted by slowponystreetracer
Ha is that right? Well i got a 20 dollar bill in my billfold that says my ol white sdime will drag that peice of **** grandma cougar down the road.I havent lost to a junk *** ford yet , hell the peices of **** usually break down before we get a run..Wait ,i have lost to a ford falcon..but i guarundamntee ill put a white stripe on that cougar.My sdime will skin it back son. 20 dollars...get you some son , ill send his peice **** back home ona a gawddamn trailor.
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
The safest (only?) way to make a 302 REALLY powerful and be fairly reliable is to replace every single part that came as a part of the motor from the factory. I can understand the rotating assembly and heads/cam, but I'd like to atleast be able to keep the factory block.
I see what your saying,but you can keep the crank, pistons, and rings usually and with a good build and proper warm up, ignition, and lots of mechanical fuckups that get fixed, a 302 can put out a reliable 500 horsepower (flywheel), and not have to suffer extreme suckage.

slowponystreetracer asz 347 in it.junk.my buddy put one in his scotsdale and it had american pride headers , junky *** edelbrock carbrator , mallory distributor , and it had some shitty ford racing cam in it
thats prolly why it wasnt running good, shuitty.


For some guys that think the 5l blocks are shitty, i've help build 302 motors that will dominant vettes, ams, camaros, ferraris,turboed cars, s/c cars, basically anything you can throw at it.

They are good motors from what ive seen, and yeah they can crack but ive never had one crack on me, even motors pushing 500+ flywheel.

On any motor you have to order the intuitive parts. Or else it fails. Its simple, you do, and it runs, you dont and you can take a average ls1 with suckage parts and blow it away with a poostang with intuitive parts.



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