LS1 vs 4.6's
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my buddy was running 13.8's with just intake and DR's. and my other buddy has an auto with 3.73's and ran 13.7 spinning (his on the other hand is a freak)
and i ran 8.8 in the eighth with shifter and no mufflers. i'm just saying this because your first statement is completely wrong. with full bolt on's the edge gt's run low 13's or 13 flat. assuming they have a good driver. i have 2 buddies that ran 8.5 and 8.6 (or a high 8.5) with full bolt ons
and like said, there are tons of people running 13 flat or low 13's with full bolt on's. and "2v in the twelves" ran just below a 13 flat and he doesn't even have full bolt ons...and as far as i know most ls1 fbody's don't run high twelves or even right at 13 flat.
and i ran 8.8 in the eighth with shifter and no mufflers. i'm just saying this because your first statement is completely wrong. with full bolt on's the edge gt's run low 13's or 13 flat. assuming they have a good driver. i have 2 buddies that ran 8.5 and 8.6 (or a high 8.5) with full bolt ons
and like said, there are tons of people running 13 flat or low 13's with full bolt on's. and "2v in the twelves" ran just below a 13 flat and he doesn't even have full bolt ons...and as far as i know most ls1 fbody's don't run high twelves or even right at 13 flat.
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I'm a little late into this discussion and might be able to shed a little light into this discussion. I am not reading all 6 pages I can tell you that right off the bat but read most of the front page. Yes gears wake the hell up out of a 2v, most go to small. A stalled auto 2v will run right with a 5 speed 2v unlike what was said earlier. A 2v can give a ls1 car a run for its money, but more work will be done to the 2v its the nature of the beast your starting from a lower power car. Just bolt ons the ls1 car has the advantage, a 2v will jump out hard on the ls1 car however wont have enough to hold it(2vs with 4.10s will go through the traps just at redline with 4.10s so 110-112 ish...4.30s will go through the traps same mph but be around 6200rpms so whoever is saying 115-120 on a bolt on 2v with 4.10s is what they top out in 4th gear is full of ****)
Now for the comparision I personally have done...my 2v
![](https://media.motortopia.com/files/7389/vehicle/46a1b196da34f/1411369207_l.jpg)
Car went low 12's at 109 back on the easy coast n/a (298 rwhp....3280 weight)
Mods:
Performance:
Vt stage 2 cams, Densecharger, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm t/b, steeda pullies, mac lts, mac prochamber, bassani catback
Suspension/Chassis:
Eibach drag launch kit, Tokico illuminas, hpm mega bite jr lca, steeda hardcore double adj uppers, Pa racing mild steel kmember with stock a arms and spring perches, mm c/c plates
Drivetrain:
Fidanza alum flywhee, frpp alum driveshaft, pro motion built t45, steeda triax, frpp 4.30 gears, detriot true track, moser 31 spline axles, arp 3.5" studs
Ok my Ls1 auto car
Mods are 17" zr1s with nitto drag radial, lt's, true duals, lid, 3k stall
Car went 12.5@109 (317rwhp...3650 weight)
![](https://www.motortopia.com/files/cars/album_az_fastest_street_cars/47ae6f3608a8c/DSC_00080006JPG_Thumbnail1.jpg)
Difference the ls1 rans on the west coast in Da's much higher then the 2v did and the 2v had mrore in the suspension never fully dialed it in or reved it past 6500 except first gear. Corrected slips the ls1 tech is a little faster. For arguements sake they are qually as fast. Driveability win goes to the ls1, car is full weight still, lowering springs, reg rims etc (just swapped out to skinnies etc). If anyone is in ny and wants to test out a little 2v I'm sure I can set something up and you will see your *** get handed to you unless you are a full heads and cam car...2v is n/a
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2v timeslip (12.4 was mine 12.5 was a n/a 2v with a built 302 heads, cam, bullitt intake on a nitrous tune)
other is camaros timeslip (12.58)...mustang was atco and camaro was in az at track 1470 above sealevel
![](https://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7404/dsc00108qt1.jpg)
Now for the comparision I personally have done...my 2v
![](https://media.motortopia.com/files/7389/vehicle/46a1b196da34f/1411369207_l.jpg)
Car went low 12's at 109 back on the easy coast n/a (298 rwhp....3280 weight)
Mods:
Performance:
Vt stage 2 cams, Densecharger, C&L plenum, Accufab 75mm t/b, steeda pullies, mac lts, mac prochamber, bassani catback
Suspension/Chassis:
Eibach drag launch kit, Tokico illuminas, hpm mega bite jr lca, steeda hardcore double adj uppers, Pa racing mild steel kmember with stock a arms and spring perches, mm c/c plates
Drivetrain:
Fidanza alum flywhee, frpp alum driveshaft, pro motion built t45, steeda triax, frpp 4.30 gears, detriot true track, moser 31 spline axles, arp 3.5" studs
Ok my Ls1 auto car
Mods are 17" zr1s with nitto drag radial, lt's, true duals, lid, 3k stall
Car went 12.5@109 (317rwhp...3650 weight)
![](https://www.motortopia.com/files/cars/album_az_fastest_street_cars/47ae6f3608a8c/DSC_00080006JPG_Thumbnail1.jpg)
Difference the ls1 rans on the west coast in Da's much higher then the 2v did and the 2v had mrore in the suspension never fully dialed it in or reved it past 6500 except first gear. Corrected slips the ls1 tech is a little faster. For arguements sake they are qually as fast. Driveability win goes to the ls1, car is full weight still, lowering springs, reg rims etc (just swapped out to skinnies etc). If anyone is in ny and wants to test out a little 2v I'm sure I can set something up and you will see your *** get handed to you unless you are a full heads and cam car...2v is n/a
edit:
2v timeslip (12.4 was mine 12.5 was a n/a 2v with a built 302 heads, cam, bullitt intake on a nitrous tune)
other is camaros timeslip (12.58)...mustang was atco and camaro was in az at track 1470 above sealevel
![](https://img117.imageshack.us/img117/7404/dsc00108qt1.jpg)
![](http://svtsnake.com/timeslips/slips/12.580-Ruckus99SS.jpg)
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No idea about the 2v mustangs though, I lack a lot of Ford knowledge
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so whoever is saying 115-120 on a bolt on 2v with 4.10s is what they top out in 4th gear is full of ****
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[QUOTE=Ruckus46Gt;10387735]etc). If anyone is in ny and wants to test out a little 2v I'm sure I can set something up and you will see your *** get handed to you
Calm down there Tyson.........................Weez just talkin
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We were talking about the BLOCKS.
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And not to wander off the beaten path but if you think that you can take any 4.6L block and throw some main studs on it and have a block that will handle 2000hp you are very mistaken.
My Mustang buddies have let me down today.
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I understand that the cast iron in the '03-'04 Cobra is good to over 1,000rwhp without making any changes. And I understand that it's nearly identical to the block in the 2v GTs.
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Then again, I haven't checked too much into the entire place, so I'm probably just putting a foot in my mouth.
On a side note, I could have sworn LSx have the same hyperUcrappy made rods/pistons as a mach/MGT. No? How do they handle that power level?