S2000 vs. WS6
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Everybody is looking for something different. My old civic held 1.06g in a right hand turn. My TA on the other hand is something like .80 with the current tires. But boy could the LS1 beat up on the B16B on the highway.
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Yeah, I have. While thats true, in some respects I have launched an STi so hard that it made me believe in christ. If you shift properly an 04-05 STi will hold onto boost though the 1-2. That damn car was reckless fast. They have an incredible rush of power compared to the LS1's torque 'table'.
Boy do I love my LS1/RWD though.
so in the end, you win.
Boy do I love my LS1/RWD though.
so in the end, you win.
To each his own ! I loved my STi, it was a great car for me and I would get one again after I get the new Camaro SS(yeah right!) and finish building my 67' !
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You are an idiot. STFU with your BS. 4G63 (DSMs and EVO) cars do it all the time.
This guy is a good example. He has gone as quick as 10.4@138mph on the original shortblock. That block has been raced for well over 5yrs at the "500whp+" level. I can list 10 other people.
And I can go out and get a Procharger and put down 700WHP like its nothing, doesn't mean ****.
Some people can do it but others can not. It would not be fair me for me to judge the overall ability of an LS1 motor because some schumck I know blew his 400whp TA with a stock LS1 motor in it. That is idiocy and anyone with half a brain would dismiss such a fallacious claim.
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This guy is a good example. He has gone as quick as 10.4@138mph on the original shortblock. That block has been raced for well over 5yrs at the "500whp+" level. I can list 10 other people.
I don't know why you feel the need to come in here and try to convince people of bullshit they don't care about, get a life.
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The final word (again)?
S2Ks DEMOTED to T3 due to lack of speed/torque, now racing (and lost) against Cobalt SS. Was losing to Fbodys.
S2Ks PROMOTED in Autocross due great handling.
Needed FI to take the SF regional SCCA IT title against 928s, etc.
When stock, torqueless yet fun to drive (oops! oxymoron!) performs well around the cones, not the big road circuit.
S2Ks DEMOTED to T3 due to lack of speed/torque, now racing (and lost) against Cobalt SS. Was losing to Fbodys.
S2Ks PROMOTED in Autocross due great handling.
Needed FI to take the SF regional SCCA IT title against 928s, etc.
When stock, torqueless yet fun to drive (oops! oxymoron!) performs well around the cones, not the big road circuit.
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You know, thats where people get their opinions about other cars cause they want something to perform as like their current car or better. When i got my Sti I had to learn to drive it which meant I had to change my driving style to bring out the best in my STi, which isn't bad ! I like to think it makes me more of an all round driver.
To each his own ! I loved my STi, it was a great car for me and I would get one again after I get the new Camaro SS(yeah right!) and finish building my 67' !
To each his own ! I loved my STi, it was a great car for me and I would get one again after I get the new Camaro SS(yeah right!) and finish building my 67' !
And I know what you mean, the STi forces you to rethink everything.
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No, you are the idiot. You are bragging about POS 4 bangers (4G63) on the LS1Tech. Mitsubishis are the biggest pieces of **** on the road, hence why we aren't driving them. They are built like garbage, DSM/Evo and reliability should never be used in the same sentence.
Good for them. I don't give a flying **** about what some idiot did with their 4 cylinder mitsubishi piece of crap. Did they set some kind of world record by hitting 10's?? Nope, so its pointless.
I don't know why you feel the need to come in here and try to convince people of bullshit they don't care about, get a life.
Good for them. I don't give a flying **** about what some idiot did with their 4 cylinder mitsubishi piece of crap. Did they set some kind of world record by hitting 10's?? Nope, so its pointless.
I don't know why you feel the need to come in here and try to convince people of bullshit they don't care about, get a life.
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No, you are the idiot. You are bragging about POS 4 bangers (4G63) on the LS1Tech. Mitsubishis are the biggest pieces of **** on the road, hence why we aren't driving them. They are built like garbage, DSM/Evo and reliability should never be used in the same sentence.
Good for them. I don't give a flying **** about what some idiot did with their 4 cylinder mitsubishi piece of crap. Did they set some kind of world record by hitting 10's?? Nope, so its pointless.
I don't know why you feel the need to come in here and try to convince people of bullshit they don't care about, get a life.
Good for them. I don't give a flying **** about what some idiot did with their 4 cylinder mitsubishi piece of crap. Did they set some kind of world record by hitting 10's?? Nope, so its pointless.
I don't know why you feel the need to come in here and try to convince people of bullshit they don't care about, get a life.
You should bitch slap yourself, I dont see Honda, Toyota or any other Jap car line going to DC to ask for money. I work for Aston Martin near DC, we also have audi, benz, and porsche. Our sales are down a little, about 20% but not like the Chevy and GM dealers that are .5 miles down the road that are closing there doors.
Now you tell me who makes shitty cars? The people that are still selling cars,i.e. the ones that people trust and wont break down on them, or the people that are closing there doors and on there knees in DC asking for a bail out?
At this point GM cant give cars away, they are even giving away 2 years of free serv on new cars. Damn, at this point I would buy one. BUT not ONE of there cars has any style or soul. I can sit in a 98 ls1 or in my friends new C6 and you both have the same box for a cd player, ****, my grand fathers GMC truck has the same radio
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You own a car made in the USA and your calling a Jap car a POS
You should bitch slap yourself, I dont see Honda, Toyota or any other Jap car line going to DC to ask for money. I work for Aston Martin near DC, we also have audi, benz, and porsche. Our sales are down a little, about 20% but not like the Chevy and GM dealers that are .5 miles down the road that are closing there doors.
Now you tell me who makes shitty cars? The people that are still selling cars,i.e. the ones that people trust and wont break down on them, or the people that are closing there doors and on there knees in DC asking for a bail out?
At this point GM cant give cars away, they are even giving away 2 years of free serv on new cars. Damn, at this point I would buy one. BUT not ONE of there cars has any style or soul. I can sit in a 98 ls1 or in my friends new C6 and you both have the same box for a cd player, ****, my grand fathers GMC truck has the same radio
You should bitch slap yourself, I dont see Honda, Toyota or any other Jap car line going to DC to ask for money. I work for Aston Martin near DC, we also have audi, benz, and porsche. Our sales are down a little, about 20% but not like the Chevy and GM dealers that are .5 miles down the road that are closing there doors.
Now you tell me who makes shitty cars? The people that are still selling cars,i.e. the ones that people trust and wont break down on them, or the people that are closing there doors and on there knees in DC asking for a bail out?
At this point GM cant give cars away, they are even giving away 2 years of free serv on new cars. Damn, at this point I would buy one. BUT not ONE of there cars has any style or soul. I can sit in a 98 ls1 or in my friends new C6 and you both have the same box for a cd player, ****, my grand fathers GMC truck has the same radio
the quality of the gm cars has nothing to do with financial hardtimes, this thread is about the cars not the manufacturers. i will agree and accept that management was the main cause of the failure of gm, not the build quality or reliability of gm cars. the lsx engine has proven to be superior over any other current v8 in america. reliability, power, access, value, its all there.
your information about GM is partially incorrect,
and you should research the info. you post beforehand,
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Now you tell me who makes shitty cars? The people that are still selling cars,i.e. the ones that people trust and wont break down on them, or the people that are closing there doors and on there knees in DC asking for a bail out?
At this point GM cant give cars away, they are even giving away 2 years of free serv on new cars. Damn, at this point I would buy one. BUT not ONE of there cars has any style or soul. I can sit in a 98 ls1 or in my friends new C6 and you both have the same box for a cd player, ****, my grand fathers GMC truck has the same radio
And you're going to complain because GM shares radios amongst their cars?? Are you buying a car to drive it, or fondle the ******* radio *****?? Its a damn CD player, of it looks nice and its functional, I couldn't give less of a **** what other cars its doing service in.
You're beyond ignorant, its comical.
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Wesmanw02, what do you drive that you can pull on an STi in 5th or 6th gear?
By the way you're talking, you were raised in Alabama (no offense meant to those who are in Alabama) by your pappy who had a mullet down to his knees and got into his '85 305TBI Camaro and tried to get it to run every day but couldn't because a squirrel got in his intake.
You're a ******* ignorant GM/American blinded...moron.
By the way you're talking, you were raised in Alabama (no offense meant to those who are in Alabama) by your pappy who had a mullet down to his knees and got into his '85 305TBI Camaro and tried to get it to run every day but couldn't because a squirrel got in his intake.
You're a ******* ignorant GM/American blinded...moron.
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By the way you're talking, you were raised in Alabama (no offense meant to those who are in Alabama) by your pappy who had a mullet down to his knees and got into his '85 305TBI Camaro and tried to get it to run every day but couldn't because a squirrel got in his intake.
You're a ******* ignorant GM/American blinded...moron.
You're a ******* ignorant GM/American blinded...moron.
LMAO.