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Old 12-27-2008, 11:59 PM
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Default 02 CETA - vs - 572 whp 08' GT-500

Went to Ottos tonight after had thought weather would be too bad. The evening turned out pretty well and called a few people to come join me. One was a guy I met a couple weeks ago in this GT-500.
His mods that I know are a smaller pulley, full exhausts, and a good tune from which he told me had dynoed last week at 572 whp.

We agreed to have a go at it after we left with me spraying a 75 shot. Turned the bottle on and got my engine warmed up just in time to hit the road. Got going and we slowed to 50...he jumped initially so I waited to re line up. Tried again and he jumped as soon as I down shifted. (My car is loud and he thought I hit it when down shifted). He got a length off the jump and was pretty close through the end of 2nd, went to third and began a slow pull. By the end of 3rd I had pulled to within a 1/4 car of him. Shifted to 4th and everything changed...my car began a strong pull overcoming him by 1/2 and he shut it down with me starting to walk away. About 50-125 here

Tried again at 70 and he again jumped a bit gaining 1/2 car and we held that until 4th. Shifted into 4th and again started pulling hard...he let off as I came up by him. About 70-115 here

Tried one more run from around 55...dropped into 2nd and he did nothing. jumped the car and he stayed back, and just as I went to 3rd thinking he was done he hammers it and jumps me again. I stayed in 3rd and lost ground as my rpms were low. Stayed about 1 car behind through 3rd, but again in 4th started pulling significantly..he let off as I was about 1/4 car back coming up strong. About 55- to 110 here or so.

Very close matchup in 2nd and 3rd, but my car was stronger in 4th. Beautiful car (his was black with the charcoal stripes), and a super nice guy. Left my video camera on the ledge outside my back door, so no videos but my Son was with me and was pretty psyched.

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Your mods besides spray?
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Bolt ons, Cam/Headwork...425whp approximately (might be a tad more now) am retuning and redynoing again next week.

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Nice. I thought about sticking around to see you guys go at it but I figured I wouldn't be able to keep up to watch
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It was a fun run...pulled over with him for a few minutes and visited for a bit...was fun. He is putting a smaller pulley on next week and claims it will dyno 610-615 after. Will run him with a 100 shot then and should be fun as well.

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Originally Posted by 02txceta
It was a fun run...pulled over with him for a few minutes and they were both pretty surprised...was fun. He is putting a smaller pulley on next week and claims it will dyno 610-615 after. Will run him with a 100 shot then and should be fun as well.
I did a quick search and one dyno yielded 435 RWHP stock. full exhaust, tune, and pulley being a 175~ RWHP gain is ridiculous.
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I saw his dyno sheet (corrected)..was a verbal conversation, and those were the mods I know about...could be other things I don't know about...don't know. 435 that you saw to his 572 is a 137 hp increase, which I can believe. He is running quite a bit more boost now than what it was stock.

Pulled them up as well...stock the car puts out 8.5 lbs of boost..he told me that now it is 15+. not sure exactly now but do remember it was at least 15. 7 lbs of boost will normally have pretty dramatic impacts on horsepower ratings...I have a GN and can attest to that.

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damn i wish i couldve been where you gettin ur car dynoed?? i takin my CETA to ARD maybe this up comin weeking to see about a tune since i need one bad!!
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I never have gotten it tuned since adding the spray, and it is running a bit rich right now. Changed the plugs to a bit colder one, but want to take a peek at the timing now. I also put a set of stock (reworked/milled) heads on and want to see if the dyno number has changed from last time.
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Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk
I did a quick search and one dyno yielded 435 RWHP stock. full exhaust, tune, and pulley being a 175~ RWHP gain is ridiculous.
Did you search the 07 or 08. Not that it's much but the 08 model has 25 more hp at the flywheel. I think David's is an 08.
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Originally Posted by 02txceta
I saw his dyno sheet and those were the mods I know about...could be other things I don't know about...don't know. 435 that you saw to his 572 is a 137 hp increase, which I can believe. He is running quite a bit more boost now than what it was stock.
His next mod is just a smaller pulley than the one he has, isn't it? That'd make it the 175 that I was thinking.
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Originally Posted by Hoffs05GTO
Did you search the 07 or 08. Not that it's much but the 08 model has 25 more hp at the flywheel. I think David's is an 08.
Nah.. I just wanted an estimate. Those things make easy power.
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Originally Posted by 02txceta
I never have gotten it tuned since adding the spray, and it is running a bit rich right now. Changed the plugs to a bit colder one, but want to take a peek at the timing now. I also put a set of stock (reworked/milled) heads on and want to see if the dyno number has changed from last time.
nice!!
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Very nice kill
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Mike at GForce will be doing the tuning...he did the camwork and a couple other things to the car.
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Hello,

Without getting into a "my ***** is bigger than yours" contest, I just wanted to add a few comments regarding Matt's "kill".

Matt's ceta is a quick car, and not to mention, good looking!!



[QUOTE=02txceta;10736603]Went to Ottos tonight after had thought weather would be too bad. The evening turned out pretty well and called a few people to come join me. One was a guy I met a couple weeks ago in this GT-500.
His mods that I know are a smaller pulley, full exhausts, and a good tune from which he showed me a dyno sheet from last week of 572 whp.

I've never showed my dyno sheet at Otto's, as that is not something I carry in the car


We agreed to have a go at it after we left with me spraying a 75 shot. Turned the bottle on and got my engine warmed up just in time to hit the road. Got going and we slowed to 50...he jumped initially so I waited to re line up. Tried again and he jumped as soon as I down shifted. (My car is loud and he thought I hit it when down shifted). He got a length off the jump and was pretty close through the end of 2nd, went to third and began a slow pull. By the end of 3rd I had pulled to within a 1/4 car of him. Shifted to 4th and everything changed...my car began a strong pull overcoming him by 1/2 and he shut it down with me starting to walk away. About 50-125 here

We were side by side from anywhere from 5 to 8 seconds before running, so one would assume that is enough time to select the gear of choice

Tried again at 70 and he again jumped a bit gaining 1/2 car and we held that until 4th. Shifted into 4th and again started pulling hard...he let off as I came by him and pulled out front. About 70-115 here


Tried one more run from around 55...dropped into 2nd and he did nothing.
I was concerned as the wife saw sparks coming from your left front??jumped the car and he stayed back, and just as I went to 3rd thinking he was done he hammers it and jumps me again.

I stayed in 3rd and lost ground as my rpms were low. Stayed about 1 car behind through 3rd, but again in 4th started pulling significantly..he let off as I was about 1/4 car back coming up strong. About 55- to 110 here or so.

I don't know about the coming up strong bit, as you were always behind me

They were fun runs, but I always hesitate to call ANY street racing a kill. The only sure kill is at the track!!

Have a good one, Guys!!
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Originally Posted by Diggie
[COLOR="Red"] to 110 here or so.

I don't know about the coming up strong bit, as you were always behind me
maybe he was always behind you because every time he started "comming strong" you let off....
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[QUOTE=Diggie;10738624]Hello,

Without getting into a "my ***** is bigger than yours" contest, I just wanted to add a few comments regarding Matt's "kill".

Matt's ceta is a quick car, and not to mention, good looking!!



Originally Posted by 02txceta
Went to Ottos tonight after had thought weather would be too bad. The evening turned out pretty well and called a few people to come join me. One was a guy I met a couple weeks ago in this GT-500.
His mods that I know are a smaller pulley, full exhausts, and a good tune from which he showed me a dyno sheet from last week of 572 whp.

I've never showed my dyno sheet at Otto's, as that is not something I carry in the car


We agreed to have a go at it after we left with me spraying a 75 shot. Turned the bottle on and got my engine warmed up just in time to hit the road. Got going and we slowed to 50...he jumped initially so I waited to re line up. Tried again and he jumped as soon as I down shifted. (My car is loud and he thought I hit it when down shifted). He got a length off the jump and was pretty close through the end of 2nd, went to third and began a slow pull. By the end of 3rd I had pulled to within a 1/4 car of him. Shifted to 4th and everything changed...my car began a strong pull overcoming him by 1/2 and he shut it down with me starting to walk away. About 50-125 here

We were side by side from anywhere from 5 to 8 seconds before running, so one would assume that is enough time to select the gear of choice

Tried again at 70 and he again jumped a bit gaining 1/2 car and we held that until 4th. Shifted into 4th and again started pulling hard...he let off as I came by him and pulled out front. About 70-115 here


Tried one more run from around 55...dropped into 2nd and he did nothing.
I was concerned as the wife saw sparks coming from your left front??jumped the car and he stayed back, and just as I went to 3rd thinking he was done he hammers it and jumps me again.

I stayed in 3rd and lost ground as my rpms were low. Stayed about 1 car behind through 3rd, but again in 4th started pulling significantly..he let off as I was about 1/4 car back coming up strong. About 55- to 110 here or so.

I don't know about the coming up strong bit, as you were always behind me

They were fun runs, but I always hesitate to call ANY street racing a kill. The only sure kill is at the track!!

Have a good one, Guys!!
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Nice kill. Just up the shot to a 125 and get a retune.
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Nice runs guys sounds like there is 2 different stories...........so just meet up do a few runs each of your choice cuz some cars are stronger from different rolls....and POST THE VID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



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