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Old 02-10-2009, 06:16 AM
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pullied cobras suck
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Reality check mustang boys, they are some healthy bolt on only Camaro's that will beat pullied cobras.
If you guys actully explored beyond the street and kill section you would know that...

* Camaro owners dont let cobra owners brainwash you into thinking cobras are invinsable!






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Board ID - 1/4 ET @ MPH (60ft), Yr & Type of car, Converter/Clutch, Gear, Race Weight, Date

RUQWIKR -------- 10.685 @ 122.91 (1.37), 01 Formula T400, ATI4600, 4.56, 3060, 03/08
Project_SS ----- 10.866 @ 122.14 (1.45), 98 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 2840, 03/07
Magnus --------- 10.987 @ 119.31 (1.42), 97 Firebird A4, YPT4400, 4.10, 2920, 12/04
1BAD98LS1 ------ 11.089 @ 120.62 (1.47), 98 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.89, 3070, 11/07
Skelton -------- 11.234 @ 117.80 (1.50), 01 Formula A3, CN4800, 4.10, 3180, 01/07
Hawkn01 -------- 11.256 @ 118.48 (1.52), 01 Firehawk A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3086, 03/04
SilentbutViolent 11.302 @ 117.84 (1.52), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.73, 3128, 11/04
V6 Bird -------- 11.322 @ 118.67 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3170, 11/02
Matt D --------- 11.421 @ 116.24 (1.47), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.73, 3100, 11/07
ATwelveSec02Z28 11.424 @ 119.26 (1.53), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, RAM, 4.56, 3300, 12/06
BAIN ----------- 11.429 @ 116.81 (1.51), 00 Camaro SS A4, TCI4400, 3.73, 3400, 12/04
Lane ----------- 11.458 @ 117.33 (1.53), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4200, 3.42, 3350, 11/02
11SECSS -------- 11.458 @ 116.94 (1.50), 01 Camaro SS A4, YTP4000, 3.23, 3200, 04/02
DMcRacer ------- 11.468 @ 116.88 (1.56), 02 Camaro SS A4, PY3800E, 3:42, 3400, 11/03
MDBlackZ28 ----- 11.494 @ 115.85 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 4.10, 3150, 07/05
Black Sunshine - 11.496 @ 116.24 (1.52), 01 Camaro SS A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3225, 10/01
Birdman -------- 11.519 @ 115.60 (1.55), 98 TransAmWS6 A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3180, 05/02
WILWAXU -------- 11.544 @ 115.36 (1.53), 01 Formula A4, YTP4200, 3.73, 3320, 01/04
01-Z ----------- 11.549 @ 117.82 (1.60), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Mcleod, 4.30, 3090, 09/02
Lynda ---------- 11.550 @ 115.36 (1.51), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/03
chrs1313 ------- 11.558 @ 116.24 (1.54), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS3600, 3.23, 3365, 11/07
Raughammer ----- 11.562 @ 115.25 (1.50), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4500, 3.73, 3175, 01/01
2002Z ---------- 11.564 @ 115.75 (1.52), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.73, 3450, 10/02
Colonel -------- 11.565 @ 115.54 (1.51), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4600, 3.89, 3285, 10/00
RAGEman -------- 11.568 @ 121.13 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, stock, 3.42, 3200, 03/02
Dangerous SS --- 11.576 @ 116.52 (1.55), 02 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 01/04
Shon Herron ---- 11.592 @ 113.00 (1.50), 97 Z28 LS1swap A4, PT4400, 4.10, 3110, 11/08
MikeHoffpauir -- 11.593 @ 116.00 (1.56), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3340, 12/01
JFM ------------ 11.623 @ 115.44 (1.57), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4400, 3.42, 3350, 01/02
DOUBT IT ------- 11.623 @ 114.94 (1.57), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI4000, 3.73, 3365, 11/08
mmiller -------- 11.664 @ 114.55 (1.53), 01 Camaro SS A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3312, 02/02
JS12 ----------- 11.672 @ 119.23 (1.72), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, Spec S4, 3.73, 3435, 11/02
LARRY01Z28 ----- 11.674 @ 118.20 (1.71), 01 Camaro Z28 M6, Star, 3.73, 3265, 10/02
JASON ---------- 11.682 @ 116.37 (1.62), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YSY3500, 3.42, 3340, 01/03
FASTR A4 ------- 11.694 @ 114.57 (1.56), 00 Formula A4, YTP4400, 3.73, 3450, 04/03
LS1INSIDE ------ 11.700 @ 114.93 (1.55), 99 Camaro Z28 A4, YPT4400, 3.42, 3350, 02/06
AliWantsNss ---- 11.702 @ 116.58 (1.56), 02 Camaro Z28 M6, CARTEK, 4.11, 3425, 11/05
MikeG ---------- 11.702 @ 115.66 (1.63), 01 Camaro SS A4, YPT4000, 3.23, 3420, 01/09
Kent1 ---------- 11.704 @ 115.38 (1.51), 99 Camaro SS A4, YTP4200, 4.10, 3400, 03/07
1999TransamWs6 - 11.715 @ 115.93 (1.73), 99 Trans am A3, PTC4000, 3.23, 3600, 11/05
XtremeLS1Z28 --- 11.719 @ 115.07 (1.64), 00 Camaro Z28 A4, TCI3500, 3.73, 3260, 03/06
2Quick4U ------- 11.721 @ 115.19 (1.58), 00 Trans-Am A4, Vig3200, 3.73, 3500, 10/01
MADCOW --------- 11.730 @ 115.80 (1.57), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, TCS4200, 3.73, 3300, 03/04
NSSANE02 ------- 11.731 @ 117.13 (1.68), 02 Camaro SS M6, TexOZ700,4.11, 3360, 06/08
black02-z28 ---- 11.731 @ 113.81 (1.50), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YSS4200, 3.73, 3600, 12/04
z28kid98 ------- 11.740 @ 113.55 (1.56), 98 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3250, 10/02
Durien --------- 11.747 @ 117.59 (1.60), 99 Camaro SS M6, Cartek, 4.11, 3487, 02/04
Raptor99 ------- 11.756 @ 115.06 (1.57), 99 Trans Am A4, TCI3800, 3.73, 3440, 11/04
Steve350 ------- 11.761 @ 114.46 (1.55), 01 Camaro Z28 A4, YST3500, 3.23, 3430, 01/02
PewterZ28 ------ 11.762 @ 114.53 (1.60), 02 Camaro Z28 A4, YTP4400, 3.23, 3360, 04/03

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The only cars on that list trapping over 120 weigh under 3100 lbs. IMO when you start cutting out that much weight, it takes away the street car aspect.
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^ hey its a bolt-off or cut-off

kinda the same as bolt-on. . . haha
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Originally Posted by Dynotune04
pullied cobras suck
I thought they blew?
Originally Posted by 99_Z28
Reality check mustang boys, they are some healthy bolt on only Camaro's that will beat pullied cobras.
If you guys actully explored beyond the street and kill section you would know that...

* Camaro owners dont let cobra owners brainwash you into thinking cobras are invinsable!
Oh don't even get me started on your ignorant ***. R U seriously trying to claim that Fbod owners AND Cobra owners that are saying the same thing, dont' go outside the street racing section?

I have shown you (and anyone that has read my comments) many of times that you are ignorant and clueless when it comes to mustangs. Your so called 'proof' backs up what I'm saying.
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Pullied cobras are good for 11's, 118-121 traps. Ported blowers are good for 125+, and tens. He ran a twelve. You ran into a shitty driver...don't expect to beat all cobras like that. And 114 trap for your car....what does it weigh? And the 1.6 sixty is nice, have to admit. 9"? 114 is a good speed for bolt on.....but rare. 117 on the street....sorry, don't buy it, since there are no timing devices out on the highways like that.
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Originally Posted by ponygt65
I thought they blew?
Oh don't even get me started on your ignorant ***. R U seriously trying to claim that Fbod owners AND Cobra owners that are saying the same thing, dont' go outside the street racing section?

I have shown you (and anyone that has read my comments) many of times that you are ignorant and clueless when it comes to mustangs. Your so called 'proof' backs up what I'm saying.
While agree he is an idoit man he does have a point. LOTS of people simple cant get their car to run the number it should. Ive seen plenty of stock cobras in the 13's. ive seen whipple strokers hit 11.3's. Same as us. we got cam only guys that cant hit 11's H/C guys that are running 11.8's. I know you have to just pointing out some cases.

While lots of ignorant people get in here with their " haha w3ak snakes cant run down my godly lid only ls1 ahahah dumdumdum" which is dumb. On the street cobras really arent that easy to drive. From the irs to all having a t-56 and the torque that hits from the blower. It really is hard to get them to beat things. Ive lost to a new edge gt with gears and tune because i blew the tires off. Next time i ran into him i put buses on him.

Ballhawk- And as far as the weight thing goes.... my formula weighed 3356 with EVERYTHING down to the stock catback and spare and the heavy *** c5z wheels and DR's. I promise you i cant get to those weight numbers and still keep in YOUR idea of street car aspect.
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Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
While agree he is an idoit man he does have a point. LOTS of people simple cant get their car to run the number it should. Ive seen plenty of stock cobras in the 13's. ive seen whipple strokers hit 11.3's. Same as us. we got cam only guys that cant hit 11's H/C guys that are running 11.8's. I know you have to just pointing out some cases.

While lots of ignorant people get in here with their " haha w3ak snakes cant run down my godly lid only ls1 ahahah dumdumdum" which is dumb. On the street cobras really arent that easy to drive. From the irs to all having a t-56 and the torque that hits from the blower. It really is hard to get them to beat things. Ive lost to a new edge gt with gears and tune because i blew the tires off. Next time i ran into him i put buses on him.

Ballhawk- And as far as the weight thing goes.... my formula weighed 3356 with EVERYTHING down to the stock catback and spare and the heavy *** c5z wheels and DR's. I promise you i cant get to those weight numbers and still keep in YOUR idea of street car aspect.
Oh, I completely agree with everything you said.......except we're talking a roll race here. ET's don't pull too much weight in a roll race. Although, I MUCH prefer digs, that's not the topic in reference. (pssst.....I had an '03 cobra vert. )

No one is saying driver error can't take into consideration a loss at any given moment. That holds true whether it's the track or the street. And yes, 3rd gear in Cobra's 'can' be a pain.........but that doesnt' give ignorant tards the ok to act like it's an easy thing to beat pullied ~450 rwhp cobra's compared to their ~360rwhp Fbod's. That's just retarded.
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Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
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I see what you did there......you LS1 guy you.
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haha... yep yep. Dont worry tho i have spent my times with ponys two. My buddy is going from a 4v TT build to a big bore 4.6 Na build. want to lay down 410's NA. I got quite a few buddys down in flordia with some mustangs that dont play well with others.
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Originally Posted by AznMuscle
Pullied cobras are good for 11's, 118-121 traps. Ported blowers are good for 125+, and tens. He ran a twelve. You ran into a shitty driver...don't expect to beat all cobras like that. And 114 trap for your car....what does it weigh? And the 1.6 sixty is nice, have to admit. 9"? 114 is a good speed for bolt on.....but rare. 117 on the street....sorry, don't buy it, since there are no timing devices out on the highways like that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn9Refrimj8 (internally stock) 3300lbs

the 117 was after I put the 224 cam in, went to the track ran a 117 trap, so i knew the car ran 117 when i raced my buddies cobra.


Sorry i don't have a vid for my 117 run, i kinda wasn't impressed by the gain.
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I think it is funny how all cobra owners only talk about is trap speed, and they never include or talk about ET's ....the fact of the matter is they suck out of the hole with there IRS. I couldnt give a **** about roll races, there for ricers and cobras that cant get out of the hole. To me a cobra is in the same catagory as a supra, 460-600+hp and still run in the 11's! BAHAHAHAHA! No wonder they get beat by f bodys with 100+hp less (in a real race).
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Originally Posted by 99_Z28
I think it is funny how all cobra owners only talk about is trap speed, and they never include or talk about ET's ....the fact of the matter is they suck out of the hole with there IRS. I couldnt give a **** about roll races, there for ricers and cobras that cant get out of the hole. To me a cobra is in the same catagory as a supra, 460-600+hp and still run in the 11's! BAHAHAHAHA! No wonder they get beat by f bodys with 100+hp less (in a real race).
now that is gunna start a **** flinging war. . .
check the bold italic underline'd text guys. . .
get your flame suit ready. . . here they come!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by silverz28camaro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn9Refrimj8 (internally stock) 3300lbs

the 117 was after I put the 224 cam in, went to the track ran a 117 trap, so i knew the car ran 117 when i raced my buddies cobra.


Sorry i don't have a vid for my 117 run, i kinda wasn't impressed by the gain.
First you say you beat pullied Cobras when you were just bolt-on, now you say you ran a trapspeed that is good enough for a bottom of the barrell pullied Cobra, but you were cammed when you did so.
Originally Posted by 99_Z28
I think it is funny how all cobra owners only talk about is trap speed, and they never include or talk about ET's ....the fact of the matter is they suck out of the hole with there IRS. I couldnt give a **** about roll races, there for ricers and cobras that cant get out of the hole. To me a cobra is in the same catagory as a supra, 460-600+hp and still run in the 11's! BAHAHAHAHA! No wonder they get beat by f bodys with 100+hp less (in a real race).
The race in question was a roll race.
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Originally Posted by 99_Z28
I think it is funny how all cobra owners only talk about is trap speed, and they never include or talk about ET's ....the fact of the matter is they suck out of the hole with there IRS. I couldnt give a **** about roll races, there for ricers and cobras that cant get out of the hole. To me a cobra is in the same catagory as a supra, 460-600+hp and still run in the 11's! BAHAHAHAHA! No wonder they get beat by f bodys with 100+hp less (in a real race).
Hmmm. Lets see... you bought a hot cam. Strike. Your still in the 12's with a cam. Strike. You dont realize that a properly driven with a good setup IRS hooks BETTER on the street. Strike. Your

And my personal favorite. Ur a dummy.
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Originally Posted by w3s1c0a5t
Hmmm. Lets see... you bought a hot cam. Strike. Your still in the 12's with a cam. Strike. You dont realize that a properly driven with a good setup IRS hooks BETTER on the street. Strike. Your

And my personal favorite. Ur a dummy.


Blah blah blibity blah...yah yah hotcams are old junk cams but yet they still put them in motors today? (ls3=500hp). silly ricers!
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Hey guise, look ay my 480rwhp cobra run high 11's! BAHAHAHAHA! Oh but look, I trapped 120mph! Maybe I should just run it on the street and do roll races...

FAIL!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ul95HeV6Q
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
First you say you beat pullied Cobras when you were just bolt-on, now you say you ran a trapspeed that is good enough for a bottom of the barrell pullied Cobra, but you were cammed when you did so.


The race in question was a roll race.
You about summed up exactly what I was thinking.

IE: both members are displaying quite the ignorance/idiocy in this thread.
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Originally Posted by 99_Z28
Hey guise, look ay my 480rwhp cobra run high 11's! BAHAHAHAHA! Oh but look, I trapped 120mph! Maybe I should just run it on the street and do roll races...

FAIL!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-ul95HeV6Q
So, what you're saying is, every fbod owner drives their cars to their potential all the time, everywhere.

Got it. Thanks for playing "first to show highest ignorance". You sir just one the title of largest idiot on the topic at hand.


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