I was thinking about that but with the V8 out of the 16M.

 

Dude...do a cam. I just got my **** done (finally!!!), and holy ******* ****. Ls1 with gears and a nice baby cam like mine (242/248 ) runs real ******* nice up top.

 

I'm actually throwing around the idea of putting the stock cam back in my 5.0

 

You got that cam in huh?

 

I'll take almost any V8 stang right now..>ROFL.

 

**** yea. Thanks to it, I got my first ticket ever, 3 hours after we got it tuned .

 

The notch might seem better in theory, but once you get them both caged, the hatch has the advantage with better aero. And while you can put a fiberglass trunklid on a notch, you can do the entire hatch in fiberglass with a lexan window and be even lighter, letting you move the weight lower where it can be more helpful. I've done a notch, but my current 5.0 is a hatch.

 

I'd honestly take either one.

LX 5.0 FTMFW

Never shoulda sold mine.

 

Where are these myhthical 302's. i want to see an example. i think the lt1 is much better than a 302, imo. why do stang owners always drop GM engines in...... and ive only seen 1 f-body owner put in a ford motor just to be funny. im just sayn.

 

I think you're an idiot. I'm just saying.

 

GM>Ford<Chrysler no matter whos gone under or what thats just the way it is. sorry for hurting feelings in advanced.

 

wow. thankks so where are you from in cali? i'll be in azusa CA next month if you wanna talk about it........ im just saying

 

ANother i-net tough guy that spouts BS and then tries to puff out his chest the second someone thinks he's childish. It's apparent 3rd grade education was difficult for you.

I'm just sayin'.

 

wow no i said talk about it..... i think you need help. thats all. its not nice to call people names unless you know them and you don't know me trust me.

 

why offer up talk face to face if so innocently can be made on here?

you come in here bashing with yoru senseless biased BS in a thread that was going fine until you came in here and then responded with a face to face and now you're the victim so dont' call you names cause we dont' know you?

what are you 16?

I'm just sayin'. (come on, you have to admit that part is funny, no?)

 

ya it is funny "im just sayin" that is. no man im 27 and i will be there at the end of next month and i started school to be a phsycotherapist... so i switch things around and **** people off all the time. so don't hate. do you live in so cal or what im lookin to go to irwindale speedway on the thursdays im there for. hahahahahah im just sayin!

 

Wow, what a worthless piece of ****.

For those of you wondering why unit left and why I do not wish to be a moderator here any longer, its because of this right here. Little ******* immature kids come on here and spew bullshit from behind a keyboard because they know their pimply faced scrawny little asses couldn't back it up if it ever came time to cash that check their mouth wrote.

 

wow ur worse than any kid. and i can cash lots of checks. your so awsome sarge. and im not skinny nor do i have a bad complextion but thanks for the name calling

 

Mythical 5.0's what the hell is that about lol. Plenty of examples of whatever you wanna see with 5.0's on the internet do a search.

 

You can make almost any amount of power with any brand engine if you put a good enough flowing head (AFTERMARKET), cam, and intake package on it.
That pretty negates the argument of which engine is better. Your argument is pretty much one sided showing the POTENTIAL of a 302 (331, 347, 363 with an aftermarket big bore block).

Of coarse there are going to be more examples of fully built 302s to fully built lt1s just because of the ratio of lt1 to 302s in existence.

Now back to the actual argument of a 302 vs an lt1

The average H/C Lt1 is right around 400 RWHP, with the more wild set ups hitting 500+.

lt1's can make 340-360 "cam only"

How many bolt on 302s with a cam can put down 340 to 360 to the tires?

The AVERAGE (that is the key word here) H/C/I 302 usually makes right around 300 RWHP (right around what a full bolt on lt1 makes)

How many 302s can put down 390 to 430 with ported E7s and a cam?

How many full weight bolt on 302s trap 107 (or more)?

In stock form there is no comparison. Better flowing aluminum heads, better flowing intake, more CI, MUCH more torque, much more power.

Like stated earlier, anything can be made to make X amount of HP with parts availble.

BTW, I'm sure you see the cars in my sig. I currently own two Modular Cobras and have had MANY 5.0l cars. I also have an LT1 Camaro. I am not posting an extremly biased oppinion like some in this thread (and other threads like this), I'm posting my experiences and actual knowledge with both cars (lt1/5.0L). I have respect for most any tastefully modded V8 RWD car and realize the potential to make any of them fast as long as the aftermarket parts are available.

There are many poor running examples out there. Dont group all the LT1s as slow turds because you took one out with a 15 second car (if its an aod with a stock converter)

The weight differenc is exactly why I want to build an LSx based notch.

BTW, a fully loaded lt1 Z28 coupe is right around 3440. There obviosly is a weight difference, especially when you campare a getted fox to a full weight F body. When you start pulling out the dual air bags, ABS, A/C ETC, and bolt on some slicks and skinnies, the large weight gap closes slightly.

Here is the BASE weight listed for the 5.0l foxes up to about 89 (they got a little heavier in 90 with an airbag and heavier yet in 91 when they added the 16" pony wheels)
LX Coupe 5 Speed 3010
LX Hatch 5 Speed 3069
GT Hatch 5 Speed 3144
LX Conv 5 Speed 3231
GT Conv 5 Speed 3365

Add:
A/C 40 Lbs
Power Locks 6 Lbs
Power Windows 6 Lbs
AM/FM Cass 2 Lbs
Premium Sound 5 Lbs
Radio Delete -9 Lbs

What is your combo? If you have an AOD and weigh 3000lbs with you in it, you must have quite a bit of weight pulled from the car or you are a toothpick with arms and legs.

I want another one too. Except it needs an ls3 based stroker and a direct port kit