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Old 06-25-2009, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by blk99sleekbeak
it does NOT drop out of power shifting at 5500.i used to shift at 6.to be honest if feels better shifting at 5500
You want to shift around 500rpm or so past peak power. Laying down the highest "average" hp will give you the best mph. In addition you don't always want to shift at the same rpm for each gear either. If the transmission's gears were numerically reduced the same between 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 you would but they're not.

As someone stated before I say a 4v motor swap is what the OP raced.

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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
You want to shift around 500rpm or so past peak power. Laying down the highest "average" hp will give you the best mph. In addition you don't always want to shift at the same rpm for each gear either. If the transmission's gears were numerically reduced the same between 1-2, 2-3, 3-4 you would but they're not.


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TY Mark...you could always explain that better than I. I think I make it too complicated.
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I have the dyno sheet at my shop in the toolbox.i want to say it peaked out right around 5300.i do specifically remember it carried peak torque all the way to like 4700rpm
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Originally Posted by blk99sleekbeak
I have the dyno sheet at my shop in the toolbox.i want to say it peaked out right around 5300.i do specifically remember it carried peak torque all the way to like 4700rpm
Then try to shift between 5700-5900. Its not written in stone but 500 past peak is a good starting point.

FWIW, my car peaks at 6400. I shift at 7100,6800, and 6600. My tranny ratios are 3.37, 1.99, 1.33, 1.0. So you can see why the 1-2 shift is so high cause it has the biggest difference between gears. If I shift any lower my mph suffers.... and I've tried too.

Pontgt- Anytime.

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Originally Posted by blk99sleekbeak
I have the dyno sheet at my shop in the toolbox.i want to say it peaked out right around 5300.i do specifically remember it carried peak torque all the way to like 4700rpm
What mark said.

The main thing that tends to get overlooked is the difference in tranny gears in relation to peak power. That's why I always say I couldnt' hop into any other car and drive it perfectly. Everyone needs seat time to be the most efficient. Powerband and gearing are all different.
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Then try to shift between 5700-5900. Its not written in stone but 500 past peak is a good starting point.

FWIW, my car peaks at 6400. I shift at 7100,6800, and 6600. My tranny ratios are 3.37, 1.99, 1.33, 1.0. So you can see why the 1-2 shift is so high cause it has the biggest difference between gears. If I shift any lower my mph suffers.... and I've tried too.

Pontgt- Anytime.

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Well i did some asking around about this car and ran into one of his buddies that gave him up.It has p.i. heads, big cams, trick flow intake mani.and a "small shot"but claims the bottle was empty that day from track use
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Originally Posted by blk99sleekbeak
Well i did some asking around about this car and ran into one of his buddies that gave him up.It has p.i. heads, big cams, trick flow intake mani.and a "small shot"but claims the bottle was empty that day from track use
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Originally Posted by blk99sleekbeak
Well i did some asking around about this car and ran into one of his buddies that gave him up.It has p.i. heads, big cams, trick flow intake mani.and a "small shot"but claims the bottle was empty that day from track use
some homie,
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is it werid that i lost lastnight to a gt with nitrous and full bolt ons i mean i have an 00 ss m6 with prc 5.3 heads and ms3 with longtubs and pulley and maf. he was slowly pullin on me he had me by half a car
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Originally Posted by Mightymike2000ss
is it werid that i lost lastnight to a gt with nitrous and full bolt ons i mean i have an 00 ss m6 with prc 5.3 heads and ms3 with longtubs and pulley and maf. he was slowly pullin on me he had me by half a car
Must have been hittin that thing hard with the spray
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well we started in 2nd gear, and he started spraying in 3rd i guess he has full boltons and gears to go along with that spray i just couldnt believe i lost. but then later that night i raced a c6 and he wasnt pullin on me we where neck and neck untill i missed 4th
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Originally Posted by Mightymike2000ss
well we started in 2nd gear, and he started spraying in 3rd i guess he has full boltons and gears to go along with that spray i just couldnt believe i lost. but then later that night i raced a c6 and he wasnt pullin on me we where neck and neck untill i missed 4th
Depends on teh spray.

Don't base it off of the C6. That's RIcer IMO. YOu dont' know the driver ability of the C6 and you don't know the mods of the NE GT.
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I would end myself if I lost to a 96-98 GT
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
I would end myself if I lost to a 96-98 GT
But not a 95?
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
I would end myself if I lost to a 96-98 GT
There is one that is local that I wouldn't mind loosing too. But for the majority...I agree.

EDIT: I would like to change this post. The local mustang is a 94. Soooooooo....I would off myself if I did lose to any 96-98 gt .

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Originally Posted by Mightymike2000ss
is it werid that i lost lastnight to a gt with nitrous and full bolt ons i mean i have an 00 ss m6 with prc 5.3 heads and ms3 with longtubs and pulley and maf. he was slowly pullin on me he had me by half a car
what does your car trap...they can trap 120+ pending all the mods and size of the shot
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EDIT: I totally just read through more of it and uh yeah....that's fucked up but I kinda fudge my mods too..lol. Actually I just call it "stock".
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hahah i wasnt tryin to sound like a dick, or anything i just figured i would of had the upper hand with a top end ls1. but i guess those 4.6 with boltons and 4.11's with a 75 shot are pretty sick, im just glad i was a half a car behind him. on top of that i also beat a vette that night, and a boosted honda
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Well i did some asking around about this car and ran into one of his buddies that gave him up.It has p.i. heads, big cams, trick flow intake mani.and a "small shot"but claims the bottle was empty that day from track use
Sounds feasible. With that combo he should be right around 300.... maybe a little less without spray. But if you say you drive half as good as you say you do... eh, smells like a little bs. Unless your shifting really isn't where it should be... That manifold really brings out power on the top end on a cammed and heads gt though.

hahah i wasnt tryin to sound like a dick, or anything i just figured i would of had the upper hand with a top end ls1. but i guess those 4.6 with boltons and 4.11's with a 75 shot are pretty sick, im just glad i was a half a car behind him. on top of that i also beat a vette that night, and a boosted honda
4.10's* Lol.
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you guys do a lot of racing in Boro?

im up here pretty often... but never see anybody.... or dont know where it is "Safe" to run...

wanna meet up some time?


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