160mph and lost...
no problem man, just talkin **** to the moron who thinks he has a million hp ls1 and can top out 6th gear.
by the way Pizz, nice numbers, but it is time to up the shot on the car and a built bottem end!!
by the way Pizz, nice numbers, but it is time to up the shot on the car and a built bottem end!!
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Originally Posted by BigBronco
no problem man, just talkin **** to the moron who thinks he has a million hp ls1 and can top out 6th gear.
by the way Pizz, nice numbers, but it is time to up the shot on the car and a built bottem end!!
by the way Pizz, nice numbers, but it is time to up the shot on the car and a built bottem end!!
My next mod is the 12 bolt or 9". I already have the ET Streets in my garage, so I just need to reinforce the rear end and maybe the driveshaft. Reinforcing the bottom end is on the list, but its not a priority yet.
yeah, get that new rearend in and get up some times. i hope when i am working over the break i can get all the body work done on the stang, and at least the rear end on order!
Originally Posted by PizzOnFord
hey man...thanx.
My next mod is the 12 bolt or 9". I already have the ET Streets in my garage, so I just need to reinforce the rear end and maybe the driveshaft. Reinforcing the bottom end is on the list, but its not a priority yet.
My next mod is the 12 bolt or 9". I already have the ET Streets in my garage, so I just need to reinforce the rear end and maybe the driveshaft. Reinforcing the bottom end is on the list, but its not a priority yet.
Look into the Furd 8.8inch rear ... I have been doing some research for quite some time now, and it seems to be a very good option. I have been hearing some bad stuff about the 12 bolts lately ... and the 8.8 is supposably almost just as strong as the 9", for a whole lot less money, and is a direct bolt-on (granted you buy it from someone who manufactures it, and don't make it yourself), where as the 9 inch requires some modification to get to fit.
If you want some info on it, shoot me a PM.
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Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
Look into the Furd 8.8inch rear ... I have been doing some research for quite some time now, and it seems to be a very good option. I have been hearing some bad stuff about the 12 bolts lately ... and the 8.8 is supposably almost just as strong as the 9", for a whole lot less money, and is a direct bolt-on (granted you buy it from someone who manufactures it, and don't make it yourself), where as the 9 inch requires some modification to get to fit.
If you want some info on it, shoot me a PM.
If you want some info on it, shoot me a PM.
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damn you guys and needing new rears. I know you wanna be able to take a nine incher, but jeez. Keep that **** to yourselves, I dont need to know what you shove in your rear in your spare time. 
Sorry, had to make a joke out of it. Just too much rear end talk
Sorry, had to make a joke out of it. Just too much rear end talk 
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Yeah you're right ... I have never seen drunk teenagers crossing a road at 3-4 am .... but it's because they're unstable ...
. All I said is that someone in the middle of any road esp. a highway or Freeway at 3-4 in the morning is on borrowed time. Anyone's vehicle could come along and find that a$$hole in their windshield regardless of speed. I happen to live 3 miles from a gravel quary that is open 22 hrs a day. Is a fully loaded 20 ton dump truck going to have an easy time avoiding an object like a drunk person, while they are traveling 55 miles an hour? Who would you place blame in a situation like that? Why didn't a semi driver get charged for running over 2 kids after daylight hours in London, OH a few years ago and even killing 1? Maybe saying they are asking for death is a little harsh, but not IMO. LS1 Tech Stories
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Blk, I was just joking around with you.
I have had a bunch of stupid things run out in front of me while driving (I usually cruise around 70-80mph) .... nata is right, from the time you see it in the headlights, determine what you are going to do, then do it, it is usually too late.
I had a possum run out the other day, he stopped in front of me, I swerved to the right to avoid him, he ran to the right ... crunch thump thump ... rear wheels slid out alittle (damn LCA's) but not enough to be dangerous ... I could just imagine hitting that at 150+ mph, I would have certainly lost control.
I agree that anyone walkin in the highway at 3 am is stupid, but I have been there, and when your drunk walking across a road, you aren't able to judge how fast headlights are coming at you.
I don't really think just because someone got drunk and decided to walk across the highway to get home, rather then hop in his car and drive home drunk, deserves to die ... I would have to say that someone who thought it would be a great idea to do 150mph on a highway, is probably far stupider (at that moment) than the person walking across the highway.
I have had a bunch of stupid things run out in front of me while driving (I usually cruise around 70-80mph) .... nata is right, from the time you see it in the headlights, determine what you are going to do, then do it, it is usually too late.
I had a possum run out the other day, he stopped in front of me, I swerved to the right to avoid him, he ran to the right ... crunch thump thump ... rear wheels slid out alittle (damn LCA's) but not enough to be dangerous ... I could just imagine hitting that at 150+ mph, I would have certainly lost control.
I agree that anyone walkin in the highway at 3 am is stupid, but I have been there, and when your drunk walking across a road, you aren't able to judge how fast headlights are coming at you.
I don't really think just because someone got drunk and decided to walk across the highway to get home, rather then hop in his car and drive home drunk, deserves to die ... I would have to say that someone who thought it would be a great idea to do 150mph on a highway, is probably far stupider (at that moment) than the person walking across the highway.
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Yep, I agree with phantom there. I have had my share of 3 mile walks along the highway to walmart at 3a.m. Why didnt I drive? well, because I cant have a car on campus as a freshman, and the bus doesnt run that late. I dont think I deserved to die, IMO anyway.
Originally Posted by xphantomws6x
I could just imagine hitting that at 150+ mph, I would have certainly lost control.
He did that a couple years ago at the Big Bend Open Road Race. Whole right front of the car was taken off.
Tisk TiskI was so happy when I got out that there was no damage. I felt so bad about the poor little animal I just destroyed though ... bothered me for the rest of the nite. I could just imagine if it was a person, and it was due to my stupidity driving at 160mph what I would've felt like.
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These top-speed stuff... I did take my z to 160 couple times, one time driving for about 40 min in a day light in a desert, and I wouldn't say it felt too much out of the ordinary... ..now I realize it was probably not a good idea, especially with my wife and kid in the car, but I didn't feel anything unusual at the time. ...it was a long trip, and some vette passed me, so I just felt I could keep up and split chances for a ticket... My major concern was cops.
All I'd like to say is that the speedo goes to 155, and so when I say 160 that means needle would pass 155 mark for a few seconds. Now when everybody is talking about 180 and crazy stuff, I'm puzzled - I wouldn't try to take camaro over 160, and the reason is tires. Standard z-rating is 168+, but what does "+" mean? I assume that 168 is not to be exceeded. Currently I have w-rating yokohama's, and that's exactly 168. y-rating is 186. (y) is 186+
What tires the guys who talk about long 200mph runs are running??? Do they just take (y) and hope for the best???? ..I could only think of some serious racing (NASCAR) equipment...
All I'd like to say is that the speedo goes to 155, and so when I say 160 that means needle would pass 155 mark for a few seconds. Now when everybody is talking about 180 and crazy stuff, I'm puzzled - I wouldn't try to take camaro over 160, and the reason is tires. Standard z-rating is 168+, but what does "+" mean? I assume that 168 is not to be exceeded. Currently I have w-rating yokohama's, and that's exactly 168. y-rating is 186. (y) is 186+
What tires the guys who talk about long 200mph runs are running??? Do they just take (y) and hope for the best???? ..I could only think of some serious racing (NASCAR) equipment...
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[QUOTE=Iv_z28]especially with my wife and kid in the car, but I didn't feel anything unusual at the time. ...it was a long trip, and some vette passed me, so I just felt I could keep up and split chances for a ticket... My major concern was cops.
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Holy shyt man...you had your wife and kid in the car
My major concern would have been my girls fist in my ear for even tying a stunt with her in the car. She hates it when I race or speed.
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Holy shyt man...you had your wife and kid in the car
My major concern would have been my girls fist in my ear for even tying a stunt with her in the car. She hates it when I race or speed. TECH Apprentice
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[QUOTE=PizzOnFord] ...my wife doesn't like when I race either... ..Actually she doesn't like me racing in general, either she is in or not in the car, but I just tell he we got bad guys on our tail 
She accepts when I go to the track, but don't encourage it in any way, especially since it's normally on friday night..
However I never heard a complain about high-speed runs. As a matter of fact the only complains I heard was about us being passed by other people when I got a flat tire and ruined the sidewall, so I had to wait for replacement tires and drive for two days on a spare at 55mph..
..still I'd like to know what tires those guys who go 160++ on public roads have
Originally Posted by Iv_z28
especially with my wife and kid in the car, but I didn't feel anything unusual at the time. ...it was a long trip, and some vette passed me, so I just felt I could keep up and split chances for a ticket... My major concern was cops.
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Holy shyt man...you had your wife and kid in the car My major concern would have been my girls fist in my ear for even tying a stunt with her in the car. She hates it when I race or speed.
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Holy shyt man...you had your wife and kid in the car
My major concern would have been my girls fist in my ear for even tying a stunt with her in the car. She hates it when I race or speed. She accepts when I go to the track, but don't encourage it in any way, especially since it's normally on friday night..
However I never heard a complain about high-speed runs. As a matter of fact the only complains I heard was about us being passed by other people when I got a flat tire and ruined the sidewall, so I had to wait for replacement tires and drive for two days on a spare at 55mph..
..still I'd like to know what tires those guys who go 160++ on public roads have
Iv_Z28: If you were serious about having your wife and kid in the car you should be pimp slapped like a non trick turning *****. With that out of the way.
TIRES TIRES TIRES, the single largest problem in the sport of Open Road Racing. To run run with the tech speed you want in ORR, the speed rating on your tires must match or be less than the tech speed. For 165mph and lower The Z or ZR rated tires do good. Run Flats on the other hand do not, even though they have the rating.
Once you start getting above 165mph its almost a roll of the dice. You dont know what your going to get. Most guys run on Hoosier R3SO3's or a comparable road racing slick and are willing to take the risk of tire puncture. A couple of the stupid fast guys used to run on Michelin MXX3's that are no longer made. Probably the best street tire made that coupld handle speeds of up to 220mph for an extended period of time. This tire was replaced by the Michelin Sport Cup tire that so far has gone 0 for 3. 3 cars had that new tire on in Sept and all 3 of the fast cars had failures AT SPEED. In one case the skin seperated fro the tire carcass at 188mph and the driver said that he watched the skin of the tire fly past his window. the other 2 both had falures at 200mph and faster. Both drivers survived.
Here is a picture of what is left of the Japanese Option car after one of his Michelin Sport Cup rear tires failed at 200mph.
There are a few guys that are running NASCARS in the 220+mph range. They run 4 "right side" super speedway tires or Wolrd Challenge tires. Only thing scary about those is that it takes next to nothing to puncture them. One guy who owned one of Tony stewarts home depot NASCARs said that after a run he could pull pebbles out of the tires and they would go flat
TIRES TIRES TIRES, the single largest problem in the sport of Open Road Racing. To run run with the tech speed you want in ORR, the speed rating on your tires must match or be less than the tech speed. For 165mph and lower The Z or ZR rated tires do good. Run Flats on the other hand do not, even though they have the rating.
Once you start getting above 165mph its almost a roll of the dice. You dont know what your going to get. Most guys run on Hoosier R3SO3's or a comparable road racing slick and are willing to take the risk of tire puncture. A couple of the stupid fast guys used to run on Michelin MXX3's that are no longer made. Probably the best street tire made that coupld handle speeds of up to 220mph for an extended period of time. This tire was replaced by the Michelin Sport Cup tire that so far has gone 0 for 3. 3 cars had that new tire on in Sept and all 3 of the fast cars had failures AT SPEED. In one case the skin seperated fro the tire carcass at 188mph and the driver said that he watched the skin of the tire fly past his window. the other 2 both had falures at 200mph and faster. Both drivers survived.
Here is a picture of what is left of the Japanese Option car after one of his Michelin Sport Cup rear tires failed at 200mph.
There are a few guys that are running NASCARS in the 220+mph range. They run 4 "right side" super speedway tires or Wolrd Challenge tires. Only thing scary about those is that it takes next to nothing to puncture them. One guy who owned one of Tony stewarts home depot NASCARs said that after a run he could pull pebbles out of the tires and they would go flat