IZRED

Even though you're smart, doesn't make the OP's story any better. Plus I'm suing you for pain and suffering for calling me a bonehead.

nikebaseballx00

thanks man, i went back to re-read it and was like idk what they are talking about... i clearly stated that he passed me and i followed because (at that point) he had at least and exhaust, and most likely some other mods.

then after doing the pulls, i stopped to talk to him and figure out exactly what he had done.

And honestly, idk what monte carlo ss's you guys are running but mustangs are always an easy kill, especially the 99-04 body styles. They can hang but still an easy win.

nikebaseballx00

btw, are u sure ur not racing the 3800s and 3800 supercharged ones?

ChefChub

iTrader: (1)

Good kill op!
I think he might be... I pull on gt's pretty well most of the time. Only GT's I have lost to were intake tune and full exhaust. You guys need to realize that LS4's hp are 303 hp and 323 torque. 05 mustang gt's are 300 and 320. Both of our curb weights are identical too. Drivers race stock vs stock.

nikebaseballx00

i know, thank you... so many people under estimate these ls4 cars, the only downfall is the fwd, it kills me

but here is some more info on racing GTs from some other members

https://ls1tech.com/forums/ls4-front...007-gxp-2.html

FryZ71

Are you sure you are racing LS4 V8 ones? They have 40+ HP more than your car and even though they're wrong-wheel drive, they are pretty quick for what they are.

2v-in-12's

Seems from what I am reading that the Monte ss's are a drivers race for the new edge. On most of the monte forums they are running mid to low 14's stock @ 98-101 and hig 13's with intake tune and exhaust. Uh......same as a new edge.

I can see a stock GT and an intake, exhaust, tunes SS about the same. The GT auto's are just as fast as the 5 speed's. THey are high 13's stock, and mid 13's with basic bolt ons.


Good kills though.

nikebaseballx00

id u seriously just say the ford edge?

those are what, 16 second suvs? lol

chevyman9306

iTrader: (9)

without getting in the middle of it...if true good kill

2v-in-12's

no the "New Edge" was the name that referred to the 99-04 mustang GT's
The car ran 14.0-14.3 stock @99-101.

Basic Bolt on's ie....intake, tune, gears and exhaust, would put it in the 13.3-13.6 @ 106-108 range.

92builtbird

Lmfao.

nikebaseballx00

learn something new everyday... i feel dumb lol

and thats weird because the 99-04 mustangs FULLY bolted and tuned, but no gears... i seem to walk on them too

i know gears make a huge difference, a stock 99-04 with 4.10s would probably **** on me until higher speeds or like a 70 pull

i love 70 pulls in this car =]

ponygt65

So what you are saying is drivetrain, weight, and rear gears have nothing to do with a race? Only advertised numbers do?

Show me three BOne stock MC SS's that run mid 13s. BONE STOCK. That's what S197s run....BONE STOCK.
No ****.
UH...what? so your saying your 'light' bolt on MC SS wipes the floor with low 13 second cars? WOW


FWIW - I can somewhat understand that the OP meet up and found out hte mods......but I still would have had to asked to clarify. That part is too vague and would take assumptions to fully comprehend.

nikebaseballx00

the stock mustang gears and weight are very close to the monte carlos

it will be hard to show you 3 that row low 13s bone stock because there are not many of these running around, sorry they are not as popular as ur pusstangs are... i could find a few GXPs that run high 13s, and the monte carlo is a few hundred pounds lighter

yes i am, considering that traction is the biggest issue with these cars

if you could get traction with this car, i am dead honest that it may be capable of 12s, the problem is that you cant launch it anywhere near where it makes power

in a rwd, such as the mustang, you can launch much closer to where you are making good power... thus being said, a roll race throws all those factors out the door and it is just the cars raw power pulling

The Manalishi

iTrader: (3)

So how do explain him beating you by a car and then you beating him by 3 or 4? Since its just raw power pulling the variance doesn't add up in a roll race. Since you nor the other guy are making anything crazy power wise I doubt spinning was an issue. So either the first race was the real outcome and the rest he was toying with you or he wasn't racing the last few.

FlashLCD33

iTrader: (8)

LOL, who told you that?

IZRED

I just read on Edmunds, it says your car weighs 3,674 with the LS4. How in the hell are you capable of getting into the 12's when a LS1 Camaro is around 200 lbs. lighter and has 50 more hp. and it can barely dip into the 12's? Please explain it to me, inquiring minds would like to know.

Ke^in

You must have a bunch of 6cyl NewEdge owners with V8 body styles.

#1 S197 GTs run the quarter between 13.5 and 13.9 depending on the driver and the tranny.

#2 99-04 NewEdge Mustangs run between 13.8 and 14.3 depending on driver and owner.

Both of these cars are faster than the Monte Carlo SS. So if you've beaten Mustangs, it's either because you raced a 6cyl, or the guy driving the car simply can't.

Having said that, I am in no doubt that you "won" But they are no easy win. And your Monte has the disadvantage.

I have a stock 99-04 GT and there are 3 (They aren't THAT rare..) MonteSSs around that constantly troll the main street. I've raced all of them. 1 even has a few bolt-ons. None came even close to beating me. And my Mustang isn't even fast.

Ke^in

They are also HEAVIER. I also have a 5spd. And YES I am sure.

Ke^in

Not the same. I've seen stock NewEdges running 13.8 all day long. Depends on the driver. But even by saying that, the S197 is faster than the NewEdge. And this guy acts like he takes them all day long.

No, no they aren't.

Stock Mustangs are probably hard to beat with HIS car.