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Old 01-19-2010, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by 06blackGTO
Iv'e never seen a stock 2v pull quicker then a 14.5 here in the midwest.
What exactly is your elevation? If I seen someone run a 14.5 in a stock 2v they would probably be told they need a lot more seat time. I've seen newbs in ATX 2vs running 14.2s without trying.
I have a hard time believing a stock 2v mustang would run with a stock LS1 goat.
I didn't beat the goat, I beat the driver. Like I said, I would never say my car was faster than a GTO because of that. The guy left his traction control on, and had NO CLUE what he was doing. When someone like that is clueless, even a advantage isn't going to help him.

Had it been a roll race to like, 130-150 he'd have more than likely taken me. But it was from a dig to 110.
Originally Posted by black_phoenix
2v gt's run a consistent run a consistent 14.3-5. 13's are very hard to get in those cars...
I don't consider myself an AWESOME driver. Really. I've only ran this particular car at the track 5 times last summer. I know of tons of people in other Mustang forums that has gotten 13.7/13.8s.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Yeah... 2v GTs have ran 13.9-14.0s. 2v LS1 fbodies usually run 13.5-13.6. The LS1 GTO even slower.

That's a HUGE difference isn't it?



(And yes, I know LS1 Fbodies have went faster, So has the 2v GT. I am talking about averages)
13.5, 13.6, where are these guys racing mount everest?
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Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
13.5, 13.6, where are these guys racing mount everest?
Ok 13.4/13.5? Most run 13.5 around here. I know people have gone faster than that in them. I will be the first to admit that most of you probably know Camaro times better than I do. So if the 13.4/5 times is off too, feel free to say something.

I know people brag about running 13.3s stock, as if it's impressive, and not easily gotten. Atleast from reading this forum on the matter. I know few have gotten high 12s, but not consistently.

The 5spd GT is MAGAZINE rated at 14.0/14.1 for the average driver. I don't see how running .1 faster for someone a bit better than average is all that impressive.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Ok 13.4/13.5? Most run 13.5 around here. I know people have gone faster than that in them. I will be the first to admit that most of you probably know Camaro times better than I do. So if the 13.4/5 times is off too, feel free to say something.

I know people brag about running 13.3s stock, as if it's impressive, and not easily gotten. Atleast from reading this forum on the matter. I know few have gotten high 12s, but not consistently.

The 5spd GT is MAGAZINE rated at 14.0/14.1 for the average driver. I don't see how running .1 faster for someone a bit better than average is all that impressive.
Just making sure. I think we should only be able to compare vehicles in the same area with the same elevation, climate etc.. or an area similar to another. Where i live i am below sea level lol. stock ls1s average 13.2, 13.3. 2v gt's 14.2, 14.1. Some occasional 13.96's runnin the sh....it out of them.

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Originally Posted by big hammer
and 2v's run 13's!
So, you're saying a Mach 1 is a 2v? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a Mach 1 is a 4v just like a Cobra, just not supercharged.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Ok 13.4/13.5? Most run 13.5 around here. I know people have gone faster than that in them. I will be the first to admit that most of you probably know Camaro times better than I do. So if the 13.4/5 times is off too, feel free to say something.

I know people brag about running 13.3s stock, as if it's impressive, and not easily gotten. Atleast from reading this forum on the matter. I know few have gotten high 12s, but not consistently.

The 5spd GT is MAGAZINE rated at 14.0/14.1 for the average driver. I don't see how running .1 faster for someone a bit better than average is all that impressive.
and most people run 14.3-14.4 in 2'v's. compare apples to apples you silly sausage.
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So, you're saying a Mach 1 is a 2v? Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but a Mach 1 is a 4v just like a Cobra, just not supercharged.
no. everyone knows machs are a 4v and run mid 13's. (unless it's an auto)
i was just bugging 2VOMG
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Elevation here is 1,000ft. But the humidity is a bitch. DA is almost always 2,000ft. in the summer. The lowest I have ever seen it was 300ft. da on a cool fall evening. But besides that the humidity here is a bi@tch.
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Ive driven a STOCK bullitt to a 13.89, so they're def 13 second cars. My f-body was in the 12's all day stock breaking no sweat on the other hand too. I see a few almost or stock fbodies in my area run 12's guys some guys really need to get the driver mod... Oh and yeah mach's are pretty equal to a ls car with a 6 speed usually having the edge over the mach at high speeds.
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Wow, want a bunch of little whiners you people can be!

OP, good kill! I'm a little skeptical, given your mods, but I guess it could happen.
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Originally Posted by 99peweterls1
Some occasional 13.96's runnin the sh....it out of them.
I didn't run the **** out of my GT when I hit my 13.97. I would say those running 13.7s in them are running the **** out of em.
Originally Posted by big hammer
and most people run 14.3-14.4 in 2'v's.
2V automatics they do. Most people run high 13s low 14s in stock LS1s too. Whats your point? When I refer to stock times, I usually refer to those that can drive them. Anyone getting 14.3 or above in a stock 5spd GT needs more track seat time. Those aren't decent numbers.
compare apples to apples you silly sausage.
So every mustang/ls1 comparison made in this forum is bunk?
i was just being a troll again
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Originally Posted by 1979rs/z28
Ive driven a STOCK bullitt to a 13.89, so they're def 13 second cars.
Tell that to "big hammer" over there. He seems to be the one in denial
My f-body was in the 12's all day stock breaking no sweat on the other hand too. I see a few almost or stock fbodies in my area run 12's guys some guys really need to get the driver mod... Oh and yeah mach's are pretty equal to a ls car with a 6 speed usually having the edge over the mach at high speeds.
Agreed.
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^ Jesus dude, nobody cares what 2vs run stock.

OP, good kill.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Most people run high 13s low 14s in stock LS1s too.
it's that type of comment that keeps ruining your credibility here

that's what "most" people run in lt1 cars, and a "few" shitty drivers or high elevation people run in ls1 cars
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Originally Posted by bah321
^ Jesus dude, nobody cares what 2vs run stock.
You know, I didn't think anyone would care either.
But ever since I mentioned my 1/4 time with mine, certain people can't leave it be. In most any thread they are in that I am, they usually attempt to make some silly joke about it when it's not even on topic. I should ignore it I know. But it just gets silly. For example this thread, I was referring to Mach1s and big ham derailed it with trollish comments about 2v GTs. So bitch to him.

It's like someone saying that stock LS1s only rarely hit 13.4s. Anyone continually making said comment in here would seriously get made fun of. And rightfully so.

Originally Posted by thunderstruck507
it's that type of comment that keeps ruining your credibility here

that's what "most" people run in lt1 cars, and a "few" shitty drivers or high elevation people run in ls1 cars
Actually I was attempting to match big hammer's trollish comments.

Facts are, MOST people running stock cars (read not modded) on the 1/4 strip are usually newbs and younger kids that can't really drive. Most will be getting slow times because of this. Like I said, I have seen countless times on the track, and say, on passtime where people have taken a low 13 second car and got 15sec out of it. When people say "I see 2v GT owners doing 15s" I believe it. When I am referring to what a car can actually do, I usually talk about what someone that knows what they are doing can do. big hammer however was mentioning times that inexperienced drivers get on 2v GTs as if they were the average times decent drivers get with them. Again, I was just matching his trolling. Read the second post in this thread as far as what I really said about LS1 fbodies.

Ok 13.4/13.5? Most run 13.5 around here. I know people have gone faster than that in them. I will be the first to admit that most of you probably know Camaro times better than I do. So if the 13.4/5 times is off too, feel free to say something.

I know people brag about running 13.3s stock, as if it's impressive, and not easily gotten. Atleast from reading this

Anytime you see me replying to big hammer, it's safe to take what I say with a grain of salt.

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Anyhow, to get back on topic, I wonder what all he had done to his Mach1. I am betting it was pretty much stock.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
I should ignore it I know.
Then do that. Your not going to change anyone's mind....you know what your car runs...who cares what other people think it runs.

But back on topic, yeah mach had to be stockish.

Sounded like from the OP thou it at least had exhaust?
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Originally Posted by bah321
yeah mach had to be stockish.
Sounded like from the OP thou it at least had exhaust?
Not sure. I've heard stock exhaust Mach1s sound decent too. I like 03/04 Mach1s better than a termi from the same year. Something about them..

I wish I could have found one that was cheaper and had less miles on it then the ones I actually found for sale.

Oh well.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
You know, I didn't think anyone would care either.
But ever since I mentioned my 1/4 time with mine, certain people can't leave it be. In most any thread they are in that I am, they usually attempt to make some silly joke about it when it's not even on topic. I should ignore it I know. But it just gets silly. For example this thread, I was referring to Mach1s and big ham derailed it with trollish comments about 2v GTs. So bitch to him.

It's like someone saying that stock LS1s only rarely hit 13.4s. Anyone continually making said comment in here would seriously get made fun of. And rightfully so.



Actually I was attempting to match big hammer's trollish comments.

Facts are, MOST people running stock cars (read not modded) on the 1/4 strip are usually newbs and younger kids that can't really drive. Most will be getting slow times because of this. Like I said, I have seen countless times on the track, and say, on passtime where people have taken a low 13 second car and got 15sec out of it. When people say "I see 2v GT owners doing 15s" I believe it. When I am referring to what a car can actually do, I usually talk about what someone that knows what they are doing can do. big hammer however was mentioning times that inexperienced drivers get on 2v GTs as if they were the average times decent drivers get with them. Again, I was just matching his trolling. Read the second post in this thread as far as what I really said about LS1 fbodies.

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Anytime you see me replying to big hammer, it's safe to take what I say with a grain of salt.

this is how much of a retard you are:

ls1's run 13.5-13.6

2v's run 13.9. no exceptions.

so therefore in your mind ls1's and 2v's are very close--- could even be considered a magical drivers race!

so now putting it like that you can see why you come off like a complete fanboi retard.

i will continue to let you make a fool of yourself.
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Originally Posted by big hammer
this is how much of a retard you are:

ls1's run 13.5-13.6

2v's run 13.9. no exceptions.

so therefore in your mind ls1's and 2v's are very close--- could even be considered a magical drivers race!

so now putting it like that you can see why you come off like a complete fanboi retard.

i will continue to let you make a fool of yourself.
I saw nothing he said that wasn't true. You guys bring the 2v topic up, not him. And if you are going to say a LS1 can run 12's stock then you have to say a 2v can run 13's stock. Cant say one then not give the other the same credit.
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Kevin defending his stock GT again? lulz Nothing to see here


Mach's and LS1 F-Bods are a drivers race stock for stock and bolt ons. Throw in cams and the LS1 will definitely have a major advantage. But then again, a mach has a solid 8.8 that has no issues with 4.10's and slicks
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