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Old 03-01-2010, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 06 SS
Why would you be surprised that the 300 horsepower turbocharged engine in a 1 series would win when the same engine combination is in a heavier 3 series "beats up" LS1's? Assuming your anecdotal information is correct and all.
I actually was not aware of what engine was in the 1 series..so that is my mistake, Nor do i really car about BMWs but i can respect any fast car no matter what it is
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Also i have been out of the loop for awhile so maybe i am off a little on the 3 series...either way i am still impressed
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Originally Posted by stockz
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Thats impressive...i have heard the 3 series cars have been beating up on LS1s never thought a 1 series would be a close race

Your kidding right?

Well, unless it was moded??????????????
I think hes super serious....imagine that an LS1 got beat
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Those are some qwk little cars, I raced one with a chip against my cts-v and the thing was damm qwk.. Kept right with me all way to the top.

(dont mean to ***** your thread but check out the video for the non believers )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KTm47AQoQI
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I would still rather drive an F-body. But damn that interior is nice http://www.carbodydesign.com/product...1_Series_3.jpg
I don't like it. It's like the S197 mustangs. Things look too post-modern to the point of not feeling natural. I think car makers did a better job with human interface on 95-2004 cars. Today's cars are trying to look too futuristic and stylish in the inside, with no concern over function. Form over function I guess. See how everything is squared off? I guess they were going for a retro look.



Maybe I am wrong. I've road in a few S197 mustangs and they just didn't feel as "homey" or comfortable as the older ones. The gear shift no longer feels like a Mustang. It just seems like the old "form over function" idea. Maybe I'm just used to cars that have more natural curves on the inside. And less flashy silver parts.

For example, look at that BMW's door. The dark grey post-modernish handle. It looks modern, and stylish, but I bet they could have came up with something more comfortable. At least BMW is still making decent steering wheels.
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Now take a look at a T/A's interior. See how smooth and naturally curvy it is?



The human body is more comforted by curves. Sharp squared cornered objects are colder feeling. Less human.
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Even the NewEdge had a more curvy/human interior


I don't like the cold squared off look for interiors. It just looks too cold.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
Even the NewEdge had a more curvy/human interior


I don't like the cold squared off look for interiors. It just looks too cold.
This right here is the number one reason why i bought a GTO over a terminator.
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Originally Posted by 06 6.0 GTO
This right here is the number one reason why i bought a GTO over a terminator.
That makes no sense as to what I posted. What right where? As far as the GTO goes, it reminds me a lot of the the interior of the mustang I posted above, except for the blinding blue and silver accents that EVERY CAR HAS NOW.

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-20...r-1280x960.jpg

http://www.photohost.org/gallery/dat..._interior2.jpg

If you are saying that the GTO was "built better" then you are probably right. It's also a more expensive car. It should be better. Having said that, every GTO I have been in, the seats just blind and distract me. Waaay too much blue or red. I guess it would be ok if you were younger..

You can get them in black too..

http://www.v8muscle.net/images/GTO%20interior.jpg

But that doesn't look much different than the Mustang above. But most every GTO I have been in, or seen for sale had the bright blue or red seats.

I've yet to see ANY domestic "muscle car" with a exotic interior.

Car interiors should be function over form. The aesthetics should not be boxy or square. Smooth lines etc.

I simply don't get that with cars made after 2005 for some reason. They all went boxy and square with inane post-modern trim that does nothing as far as usage goes. Again, form over function.

I like the T/A interior more so than the GTOs.

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Originally Posted by Ke^in
That makes no sense as to what I posted. What right where?
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The garbage can plastic interior, not only is it some of the lowest quality plastic available, the buttons, *****, and radio are straight out of a 1990s escort, it is nothing like a gto interior. Ill admit the terminator is faster, easier to mod, sounds better, but please dont say the interior is even comparable. Not saying the GTO interior is amazing (like rx8s, or BMWs) but it is far better then the mustangs. And even the new camaros in my opinion as it was made and desighned in europe, which to me was immediatly eveident when comparing to other american made cars.

I also hate the blue seats, idk where you are looking but i had to look for red seats like i wanted as everyone for sale had black. The blue is a rarity which i think is a good thing lol
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Originally Posted by 06 6.0 GTO
The garbage can plastic interior, not only is it some of the lowest quality plastic available, the buttons, *****, and radio are straight out of a 1990s escort, it is nothing like a gto interior.
You are talking materials, I am speaking about form and function. Two different things.
but it is far better then the mustangs.
The materials used are better. The car cost more than most GTs. But as far as being better, that's IMHO. An interior is more than the material it's made out of.
I also hate the blue seats, idk where you are looking but i had to look for red seats like i wanted as everyone for sale had black. The blue is a rarity which i think is a good thing lol
I think the red is harder on the eyes than the blue. I'd have kept the black.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
If you are saying that the GTO was "built better" then you are probably right. It's also a more expensive car. It should be better.
Um he said he picked the GTO over the TERMI... which was the more expensive car? and by how much? I want to see the results.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Um he said he picked the GTO over the TERMI... which was the more expensive car? and by how much? I want to see the results.
I was referring to the GTs. The Termi and GTs have the same interior..
And picking a GTO instead of a Termi.. I really don't know what to say.
If he was looking for a car with a nice interior, neither car really stacks up.

It was kinda irrelevant to the point I was making anyhow.
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Originally Posted by Ke^in
I was referring to the GTs. The Termi and GTs have the same interior..
And picking a GTO instead of a Termi.. I really don't know what to say.
If he was looking for a car with a nice interior, neither car really stacks up.

It was kinda irrelevant to the point I was making anyhow.
Well in this case you just spun his comment to try and make an irrelevant point. He stated he picked the GTO over the terminator... it had nothing to do with the lesser model Mustangs.
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Originally Posted by S8ER95Z
Well in this case you just spun his comment to try and make an irrelevant point.
His comment was a reply to my original comment. Which was really nothing to do with his comment. I wasn't talking about materials used.
He stated he picked the GTO over the terminator...
Right, which had nothing to do with my post.
it had nothing to do with the lesser model Mustangs.
Sure it does. They both have the same interiors. Like I told you in my post before this one.

Again, it doesn't matter. His post as about materials used. Mine was about human interface guidelines. Apples and Oranges.

Capiche?
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Once the weather gets nicer I'm going to have a buddy run my T/A against my 335xi. Curious to see what she can do. The JB3 is crazy and boost went from 8.5psi to about 13psi on a mid level map for 93 octane. The newest software 2.0 is supposed to be night and day better in smoothness and response. Will be upgrading as soon as it is out of beta. As for the interior differences both cars fit differently. I love how both cars feel but they are opposite worlds when you compare them.



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