Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

08 cobalt ss vs 99 camaro ss

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-20-2010, 06:14 PM
  #21  
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (4)
 
TheBlueKnight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Nevada
Posts: 1,971
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Lol, found this vid posted on the Cobalt forum too. All the cobalt guys are asking why the cobalt kept jumping the gun on the second honk.
TheBlueKnight is offline  
Old 04-20-2010, 06:44 PM
  #22  
Teching In
 
Ju1ce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by maxspeed96ct
If you look close You can see how slow the cars are rolling in the video the two times the camaro pulled away.

I understand eveyone wants to race to thier advantage.

But dont say the camaro messed up and was in the wrong gear. He just wasnt in a gear that was to his advantage is what you want to say.

Cause at 50mph both cars should be in second gear.
I'm not trying to start an arguement here but I know with 100% certainty that we raced from 40mph and the Cobalt was in 2nd gear in the race starting at 2:15.

The result was not much different than that of the race we started at ~20mph. The difference can be seen between the two races because the Cobalt gets jerked around when he shifts from 1st to 2nd in the last race, and how the Camaro is actually in gear for more than a split second. In the race starting at 2:15 I hit it and immediately had to shift.

It doesn't really matter to me all that much but I can tell you for sure that the Cobalt was in 2nd gear that race. We started at 5000rpm in 1st gear. None of the rolling races were started from 50mph, all of them were 35-40 aside from the last one which was ~20. 35-40 is perfect for the Cobalt in 2nd gear, and pretty good for the Camaro in 1st. With the Camaro in 2nd gear at 35-40 mph it was at a huge dissadvantage as the RPM's were around 2700.

Last edited by Ju1ce; 04-20-2010 at 06:54 PM.
Ju1ce is offline  
Old 04-20-2010, 07:55 PM
  #23  
Teching In
iTrader: (4)
 
LS199's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: TOMBALL TX
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Nice runs anyway
LS199 is offline  
Old 04-20-2010, 08:14 PM
  #24  
TECH Enthusiast
iTrader: (1)
 
LS12Fast4U's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Boise Idaho
Posts: 550
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Thats why its " street racing " anything can happen on the street. Speed and what gear your in plays a huge part. No one is ever going to agree. Theres always someone wo has to argue about the way it went down and who " should have won ".

But nice runs man.
LS12Fast4U is offline  
Old 04-20-2010, 08:20 PM
  #25  
registered user
iTrader: (3)
 
ScreaminRedZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 2,940
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Nice runs guys! Those Stage 1 Cobalts are impressive as hell. I'm sure they make the guys who bought the SC Cobalts want to
ScreaminRedZ is offline  
Old 04-20-2010, 09:33 PM
  #26  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (4)
 
ford's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by TheBlueKnight
Is there stage 2 and stage 3 from the dealer? Nice runs BTW.
Nope. Not for the T/C's at least.
ford is offline  
Old 04-20-2010, 11:45 PM
  #27  
TECH Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
Sicko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 442
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Interesting thread. Id like to see the cobalt against some other cars, like maybe a GTO or an SRT8.
Sicko is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 05:21 AM
  #28  
Banned
iTrader: (3)
 
maxspeed96ct's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Central ,CT
Posts: 859
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
I'm not trying to start an arguement here but I know with 100% certainty that we raced from 40mph and the Cobalt was in 2nd gear in the race starting at 2:15.

The result was not much different than that of the race we started at ~20mph. The difference can be seen between the two races because the Cobalt gets jerked around when he shifts from 1st to 2nd in the last race, and how the Camaro is actually in gear for more than a split second. In the race starting at 2:15 I hit it and immediately had to shift.

It doesn't really matter to me all that much but I can tell you for sure that the Cobalt was in 2nd gear that race. We started at 5000rpm in 1st gear. None of the rolling races were started from 50mph, all of them were 35-40 aside from the last one which was ~20. 35-40 is perfect for the Cobalt in 2nd gear, and pretty good for the Camaro in 1st. With the Camaro in 2nd gear at 35-40 mph it was at a huge dissadvantage as the RPM's were around 2700.
your full of ****, simply because @ 40mph in first gear the camaro would pretty much be at reline.
maxspeed96ct is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 08:20 AM
  #29  
TECH Resident
iTrader: (7)
 
sujomatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: CT
Posts: 796
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by maxspeed96ct
your full of ****, simply because @ 40mph in first gear the camaro would pretty much be at reline.
He just said he wasn't in the gear long. And 1st gear really is long as hell with 3.42 gearing.. Pretty sure 1st gear hits 50 or 55mph, but it's been a while since I've driven my Camaro lol
sujomatt is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 09:13 AM
  #30  
Teching In
 
Ju1ce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by sujomatt
He just said he wasn't in the gear long. And 1st gear really is long as hell with 3.42 gearing.. Pretty sure 1st gear hits 50 or 55mph, but it's been a while since I've driven my Camaro lol
x2 first gear goes to about 55 in a stock gear'd 6spd fbody.
Again I'm not trying to start an arguement just stating the facts. If Josh was here he'd have my back on this one. We started at roughly 5000rpm in 1st, shifted at 6000.

The trans are a little different than our c5z 6spds.

Last edited by Ju1ce; 04-21-2010 at 09:20 AM.
Ju1ce is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 10:54 AM
  #31  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
hugger1975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Naperville
Posts: 739
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 18 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by Sicko
Interesting thread. Id like to see the cobalt against some other cars, like maybe a GTO or an SRT8.
i have a few kills if you search my username
no vids but i am a great story teller

ls1 GTO, stang GT (new and old) 350z, old TA, lt1 vette, etc etc
hugger1975 is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 11:49 AM
  #32  
Staging Lane
iTrader: (7)
 
bigtls1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Murrieta, Ca
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
x2 first gear goes to about 55 in a stock gear'd 6spd fbody.
Again I'm not trying to start an arguement just stating the facts. If Josh was here he'd have my back on this one. We started at roughly 5000rpm in 1st, shifted at 6000.

The trans are a little different than our c5z 6spds.
thats weird, mine goes to ~42mph in first at redine... As far as i know the gear ratio is stock
bigtls1 is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 11:53 AM
  #33  
Teching In
 
Ju1ce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bigtls1
thats weird, mine goes to ~42mph in first at redine... As far as i know the gear ratio is stock
Maybe it's not. We were just out in Josh's car and it for sure goes to almost 55mph in first gear.
Ju1ce is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 11:56 AM
  #34  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (12)
 
chavez885's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 2,382
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Stock LS1 fbodys with 275/40/17 are at 50mph @ 6k
chavez885 is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 12:03 PM
  #35  
Teching In
 
Ju1ce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by chavez885
Stock LS1 fbodys with 275/40/17 are at 50mph @ 6k
Exactly, and if you watch the race at 2:15 in that video you'll see we shift less than a second after hitting it. It would have been mechanically impossible for the Cobalt to be in first gear that race.

The other race, yes the Cobalt was in 1st gear.
Ju1ce is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 12:04 PM
  #36  
TECH Regular
 
AWDTBSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 449
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ScreaminRedZ
Nice runs guys! Those Stage 1 Cobalts are impressive as hell. I'm sure they make the guys who bought the SC Cobalts want to
ppl need to remember the s/c ones can be just as fast as the stg1 and stock t/c ones..



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-udI...=youtube_gdata
AWDTBSS is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 12:10 PM
  #37  
TECH Addict
iTrader: (12)
 
chavez885's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Concord, CA
Posts: 2,382
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
ppl need to remember the s/c ones can be just as fast as the stg1 and stock t/c ones..
Yeah you're right, so can a Geo metro if you got the money.

SS/SC-2.9 Pulley, 42# Injectors, Intake, Header, Downpipe, Exhaust, Tune - ????$

SS/TC- GM Stage 1 - 500$
chavez885 is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 12:13 PM
  #38  
Teching In
 
Ju1ce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 22
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by chavez885
Yeah you're right, so can a Geo metro if you got the money.

SS/SC-2.9 Pulley, 42# Injectors, Intake, Header, Downpipe, Exhaust, Tune - ????$

SS/TC- GM Stage 1 - 500$
x2 The only people trying to vouch for the S/C Cobalts are the ones that either have owned them or currently own them

T/C >>>>>>> S/C
Ju1ce is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 12:19 PM
  #39  
TECH Regular
 
AWDTBSS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 449
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

His setup cost him maybe 1k and he came with 55less hp and 60less tq...but yes the TC is cheaper to make faster but close to stock a basic bolt on SC can take it
AWDTBSS is offline  
Old 04-21-2010, 01:15 PM
  #40  
11 Second Club
iTrader: (3)
 
hugger1975's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Naperville
Posts: 739
Likes: 0
Received 24 Likes on 18 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by AWDTBSS
His setup cost him maybe 1k and he came with 55less hp and 60less tq...but yes the TC is cheaper to make faster but close to stock a basic bolt on SC can take it
very true.....

whats interesting is the best of the best stock s/c runs times the average drivers get in the t/c

ie: low 14's (yes i am one of them )
hugger1975 is offline  


Quick Reply: 08 cobalt ss vs 99 camaro ss



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:21 PM.