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Old 04-24-2010, 01:38 PM
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Default Pullied cobra vs cam only t/a

so i ran into a sick sounding pulled cobra coupe yesterday i have mods in sig. i pull besides him and he automatically downshifts and lets me hear the sick blower whine im like nice hes game ive been wanting to run one. so we line up at 55 i was in 2nd im assuming he was too. we both had 1 passanger my cars so loud all i hear is the first honk and im waiting i couldnt hear ****. so he hits it and i follow in persuit, he got a 3/4 car from the hit and it looked like he was gunna keep pulling. i quickly shifted into 3rd stopped his pull i was shocked and by the top of 3rd he had about a 1/2 a car on me so i pulled a tiny bit back. i was happy my car did so well if we lined up even it would have been one hell of a run. i wanted to go a few more times but he hopped off
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Yeah cam-only cars do quite well against Pullied Cobra's. Nice run!
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nice kill!
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Originally Posted by 916 BREDWNR
Yeah cam-only cars do quite well against Pullied Cobra's. Nice run!
Not from what I have seen personally......good race OP.
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good race, a nice set of heads on top of your current setup you would of realy suprised him!
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Not from what I have seen personally......good race OP.
excuses excuses you say that not from what i seen personally thing every time someone says a cam only ls1 can run with a pullied cobra no matter what the outcome is, what about what someone else has experienced??
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Im not knocking anyone or anything but Cory does say that about every cammed ls1/pullied cobra race ive ever seen!
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well, its true from my expierience its not even a race. I always state cobras run very different. I have beaten two cam only ls1's by 5+ cars. I have yet to be beaten by a h/c ls1. not saying it can't or wont happen. just stating my expeirience. thats better than most of the trolls on here that post of what they "think" or "should" happen.
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Well I ran dead nuts even with a catback only vert termy the other day? perhaps not the norm but it happened. I cant see you beating cammed ls1s 5 plus cars unless they are stock geared/stalled autos with smallish cams
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Originally Posted by 95Prplppletrz28
Well I ran dead nuts even with a catback only vert termy the other day? perhaps not the norm but it happened. I cant see you beating cammed ls1s 5 plus cars unless they are stock geared/stalled autos with smallish cams
You want vids???? My brother is the one posted last under my name.....he has a full bolt on TA with MS3 and a 100 shot..... BTW- I do belive you ran dead even with a Termi....My brother Bonestock wit a catabck beat a Bonestock termi wit a catback......I am sure at the time he was making 310ish. Thats what I wish you guys would understand I am not biast I just state the facts that I have seen with my own eyes and anything can happen on the street.

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Originally Posted by corysmach1
Not from what I have seen personally......good race OP.
I guess no one can debate what you've seen personally. I'm sure you're
aware how stout a cam only fbody can be in the right hands with the
right setup. We have cam only guys here in the 9's. There is no pulley'd
Cobra that can run that. It's flat out impossible. Pulley'd Cobras are
good for anywhere from 10.70's to 12.20's with the 10.70 end being
race car setups damn near and the 12.20 end being morons. It's far
more common to have 10 second cam only LS1. I'd say it's almost common.
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Originally Posted by unit213
I guess no one can debate what you've seen personally. I'm sure you're
aware how stout a cam only fbody can be in the right hands with the
right setup. We have cam only guys here in the 9's. There is no pulley'd
Cobra that can run that. It's flat out impossible. Pulley'd Cobras are
good for anywhere from 10.70's to 12.20's with the 10.70 end being
race car setups damn near and the 12.20 end being morons. It's far
more common to have 10 second cam only LS1. I'd say it's almost common.
C'mon man I am talking about full weight street cars with cam only and the bolt ons? Yes there is ported eaton 9 sec cobras...9.94 @135 with interior and radio. But I am talking about the normal cars we drive everyday....I hate when start talking race cars.
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Originally Posted by corysmach1
C'mon man I am talking about full weight street cars with cam only and the bolt ons?
Ok...in that case...high 10's are no problem for a cam only LS1 in the hands of someone with some know how.

Originally Posted by corysmach1
Yes there is ported eaton 9 sec cobras...9.94 @135 with interior and radio.
A ported Eaton Cobra is NOT a pulley'd Cobra. Big difference. There is no
way in hell a pulley'd Cobra can run a 9. Period. Yeah...I know Jake run's 9's...
and it's damned near a race car...solid axle, auto, super light weight, etc.

Originally Posted by corysmach1
But I am talking about the normal cars we drive everyday....I hate when start talking race cars.
Me too. Apparently you haven't run into any strong LS1's. 10.80's are
easy in a cam only LS1. You're not running 10's.
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My last trip to the track there was 4 termi's there: All on a minimum of 555R's: the two guys with the most claimed rwhp (490 and 475) both were stuck in the 12.3-12.7 range at 117-120mph. The lowest claimed rwhp (410) cobra -running full slicks- hit repeated 11.5's in the mid 120's: best of the day for all the Cobra guys. Just saying...
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Originally Posted by unit213
Me too. Apparently you haven't run into any strong LS1's. 10.80's are easy in a cam only LS1. You're not running 10's.
I wouldn't say easy... I was at the track yesterday. two cam only t/a's running 12.50. the only ls1's in the 10s were a h/c and 150 shot running 10.70s and a h/c procharged runing 10.60s. I have NEVER seend a cam only ls1 in the 10's. not even close.

with that said. I know it happens. but it's certainly not common... I have a ms3 and I would be happy with low 12's.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
My last trip to the track there was 4 termi's there: All on a minimum of 555R's: the two guys with the most claimed rwhp (490 and 475) both were stuck in the 12.3-12.7 range at 117-120mph. The lowest claimed rwhp (410) cobra -running full slicks- hit repeated 11.5's in the mid 120's: best of the day for all the Cobra guys. Just saying...
Yeah, it's really all about the setup and the skill of the racer. Same goes
for any car, particularly with a manual trans. Mid 11's are very easy
on Nittos in a pulley'd Cobra.
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Originally Posted by 00silverGTP
I wouldn't say easy...
See below:

Originally Posted by unit213
Ok...in that case...high 10's are no problem for a cam only LS1 in the hands of someone with some know how.
Originally Posted by 00silverGTP
I was at the track yesterday. two cam only t/a's running 12.50. the only ls1's in the 10s were a h/c and 150 shot running 10.70s and a h/c procharged runing 10.60s. I have NEVER seend a cam only ls1 in the 10's. not even close.
12.50's with a cam? That's flat out embarrassing unless the DA was 7000'.

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with that said. I know it happens. but it's certainly not common... I have a ms3 and I would be happy with low 12's.
It's common around here, but in fairness...I do see & hear about a lot
of the good ones since a good friend owns Livernois Motorsports.
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pullied cobra vs a cam only ls1 in a rx7 and a bolt on ls6
http://www.streetfire.net/video/03-c...co6_648806.htm

pullied cobra vs a cam only FRC
http://www.streetfire.net/video/pull...frc_196298.htm

this is what is common to me, b/c this is what I witness. I don't discount others people stories. I am sure they are true. cory's car put 4 cars on another cobra making the same power..... maybe its just his car.
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Wait a second here...WTF is going on? I'm arguing for LS1's and LS1 owners are contradicting me?
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Originally Posted by unit213
Wait a second here...WTF is going on? I'm arguing for LS1's and LS1 owners are contradicting me?
I love both cars, ovbiously. its just people say its common for a cam only ls1 to run with a pulley cobra and thats not my expieience. period. I know it happens but I haven't seen it or even heard of it in our area....
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