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Old 05-10-2010, 03:15 PM
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A4 and stall not ideal for roll racing, might of just been bolt-ons and gears???
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It's got bolt ons, gears, and suspension, but ran those times on bald nittos.If you want a rematch, I can hook you up.
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Originally Posted by jdiddyws6
It's got bolt ons, gears, and suspension, but ran those times on bald nittos.If you want a rematch, I can hook you up.
Yeah I wouldnt mine going again from a stop, and a slow roll like a 20mph and we could go again from bout 50. I just find it hard to believe that year cobra can beat my car with just them mods. Like I said I dont know how much if anything the t-tops being off would affect going from a higher roll like that also.

Did he run them times at the track in Gulfport?
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Yeah he did.
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Originally Posted by J'sRedWS6
Yeah I wouldnt mine going again from a stop, and a slow roll like a 20mph and we could go again from bout 50. I just find it hard to believe that year cobra can beat my car with just them mods. Like I said I dont know how much if anything the t-tops being off would affect going from a higher roll like that also.

Did he run them times at the track in Gulfport?
Im with you on that one I find it a little hard to believe also, unless he has some weight reduction hes not mentioning. My old 2K A4 WS6 had identical mods to you car but it had the stock stall and stock gears and it went 12.6@111 on street tires. This guy in my college class had a real nice black Full bolt on 97 Cobra with some nice FR500 wheels and he ran 12.50's on DR's but from a roll i beat him by 2 cars every time we raced. From a Dig he would get out on me by about a car until i closed the gap so idk all cars a different. I say you run him again and get it on video
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
WHAT!? :BS: A n/a 4.6 cannot beat a LS1 unless its completely built, high compression, cams, race intake, 3" primary headers, and reving the motor to 11,300rpms. You sir, are lying. Good day..

Dont know if this was a joke or not??

I had a 97 cobra, 4.10's, x pipe, catback, jlt intake and clutch...I slightly pulled a 98-02 SS. 40mph to 90mph..Talked to him afterwards and had LT's, lid, o/r y, cutout and 4.10's..Yes it was M6 and NO he wasnt a newbie driver.
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It was a joke
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Originally Posted by jdiddyws6
I thought so. It's prolly a friend of mine. He went low 13's at 108, and has done a few more things. It's an n/a 4v.
It wasn't JJ, he said the car was red. I wonder who it could have been though.
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Originally Posted by JStrib
It wasn't JJ, he said the car was red. I wonder who it could have been though.
It was a older guy probably in his 40s, Iv never seen the car before till that day
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I'm new to LS1/T but I go both btw so I'm not just another Ford dude so I like both but he could hv a turbo just low turned down boost press. N probably some other electronics on it I hvnt heard the car so I'm guessing but if u didn't hear the winney sound like u said I bet it has a turbo if not a Romeo 4v for starters which is the block probably...
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There's absolutely no reason why a bolt on na 4v couldn't beat him on motor by a little. It's not like he got slaughteredd or anything
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Originally Posted by jdiddyws6
There's absolutely no reason why a bolt on na 4v couldn't beat him on motor by a little. It's not like he got slaughteredd or anything
+1, just for reference, my buddy owns an 03 Mach, I realize that the motors/cars are a bit different but we went to the track this weekend and he was 108 in his full bolt on Mach and his E.T. was a 12.81 with a **** 2.0 60' so with traction and driver a 108 trap could do it.

Highly doubt it was a turbo car even on low boost pressure 6-8 psi they run like bastards and it would have been alot worse of a beating IMHO.

Maybe the whistling that you heard was the Cobra with some Bubb Rubb and Lil Sis whistle tips (By the way if you don't know what I mean by this go to YouTube and search "whistle tips" great entertainment)
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Originally Posted by z28_YOU_HO
Dont know if this was a joke or not??

I had a 97 cobra, 4.10's, x pipe, catback, jlt intake and clutch...I slightly pulled a 98-02 SS. 40mph to 90mph..Talked to him afterwards and had LT's, lid, o/r y, cutout and 4.10's..Yes it was M6 and NO he wasnt a newbie driver.
I'd be ashamed if I had an M6 LS1 w/ those mods and lost from a roll to a 97 with just gears, x-pipe, catback and tune. It shouldn't have even been close.

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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
I'd be ashamed if I had an M6 LS1 w/ those mods and lost from a roll to a 97 with just gears, x-pipe, catback and tune. It shouldn't have even been close.
Why? An n/a 4v with bolt ons can trap ~110 with minimal !weight. That's about right for a ls1, as long as you aren't going out of the mustang's gear range, there's no reason it shouldn't go either way.
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Originally Posted by jdiddyws6
Why? An n/a 4v with bolt ons can trap ~110 with minimal !weight. That's about right for a ls1, as long as you aren't going out of the mustang's gear range, there's no reason it shouldn't go either way.
I owned a bolt-on '97 snake so I know how these cars fair, and they are not on par with a bolt-on ls.

110mph for a full bolt-on car is not the norm where as I have seen plenty LS1/M6 cars with full bolt-ons trap 112+ at full weight. Heck i've seen stock ls1's trap 107-108! Your comparing a 340-350rwhp car to one that will barely top 300 with bolt-ons. Plus the average bolt-on 4.6 is going to have either 4.10/4.30 gears to make use of it's powerband but does not help much on a high speed roll. LS1 is easily the faster car.

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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
I owned a bolt-on '97 snake so I know how these cars fair, and they are not on par with a bolt-on ls.

110mph for a full bolt-on car is not the norm where as I have seen plenty LS1/M6 cars with full bolt-ons trap 112+ at full weight. Heck i've seen stock ls1's trap 107-108! Your comparing a 340-350rwhp car to one that will barely top 300 with bolt-ons. Plus the average bolt-on 4.6 is going to have either 4.10/4.30 gears to make use of it's powerband but does not help much on a high speed roll. LS1 is easily the faster car.
You must live in a mine shaft or something.For the norm, most bolt on a4's trap ~108, and most m6's trap ~110. As for the gears, as I said before, as long as they don't go too fast (the area where they were wouldn't allow them to) they wouldn't get out of the cobras effective powerband, and it would be irrelevant. LS1 is not easily the faster car, it's a toss up.
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
I owned a bolt-on '97 snake so I know how these cars fair, and they are not on par with a bolt-on ls.

110mph for a full bolt-on car is not the norm where as I have seen plenty LS1/M6 cars with full bolt-ons trap 112+ at full weight. Heck i've seen stock ls1's trap 107-108! Your comparing a 340-350rwhp car to one that will barely top 300 with bolt-ons. Plus the average bolt-on 4.6 is going to have either 4.10/4.30 gears to make use of it's powerband but does not help much on a high speed roll. LS1 is easily the faster car.
FWIW when I was at full weight I trapped 109 with 298rwhp with all the bolt-ons. I'm sure If I brought my car back to stock weight 110 traps would be attained.

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Originally Posted by jdiddyws6
You must live in a mine shaft or something.For the norm, most bolt on a4's trap ~108, and most m6's trap ~110. As for the gears, as I said before, as long as they don't go too fast (the area where they were wouldn't allow them to) they wouldn't get out of the cobras effective powerband, and it would be irrelevant. LS1 is not easily the faster car, it's a toss up.
You must really be in la la land if you think a bolt-on '96-98 Cobra vs LS1 is a 'toss up'. Either that or smokin' something potent. :ROTFLMAO: Your talking about a car that in stock trim normally traps 100-102 vs one that will trap 105-108, plus reponds better to mods thus making more horsepower and torque than a n/a 96-98 era 4-valve, and to boot both cars weigh around the same. So what makes it so hard for you to understand that a full bolt-on LS1 willl be faster than a full bolt-on LS1?

You say the norm for a full bolt-on car is 110? So basically your saying full bolt-ons and supporting mods are only good for what, a couple mph? What are you smoking? I run at Sacramento Raceway Park in Northern CA, a sea level track. Maybe you run at a poor track with high DA or something...
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
You must really be in la la land if you think a bolt-on '96-98 Cobra vs LS1 is a 'toss up'. Either that or smokin' something potent. :ROTFLMAO: Your talking about a car that in stock trim normally traps 100-102 vs one that will trap 105-108, plus reponds better to mods thus making more horsepower and torque than a n/a 96-98 era 4-valve, and to boot both cars weigh around the same. So what makes it so hard for you to understand that a full bolt-on LS1 willl be faster than a full bolt-on LS1?

You say the norm for a full bolt-on car is 110? So basically your saying full bolt-ons and supporting mods are only good for what, a couple mph? What are you smoking? I run at Sacramento Raceway Park in Northern CA, a sea level track. Maybe you run at a poor track with high DA or something...
Nope, as legit as it gets. My car went from 102 to 108 with bolt ons, most autos in this area trap that, with most m6's trapping a few higher. Local track is a sea level with ok DA, and 96-98 cobras in this area trap ~110. I don't see why you're having such a hard time believing the argument when there are so many examples
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Originally Posted by jdiddyws6
You must live in a mine shaft or something.For the norm, most bolt on a4's trap ~108, and most m6's trap ~110. As for the gears, as I said before, as long as they don't go too fast (the area where they were wouldn't allow them to) they wouldn't get out of the cobras effective powerband, and it would be irrelevant. LS1 is not easily the faster car, it's a toss up.
What track do you run at normally? What's so unbelievable about a full bolt-on car trapping 112? That's nothing new. lol

FWIW, My '00 was trapping 107.1 bone-stock at 296rwhp. After doing full bolt-ons (ls6 intake-swap, ported tb, bellows, lid, u/d pulley, electric w/p, SLP 1.8 rockers, free mods, LT's/ory, no muffler, tune) my trap speed was 112-113 at 357rwhp. I run at SRP as well which is a track well know for quick times so maybe where your at cars trap slower. But out here 110-112 is the norm.


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