Heads/Cam ironblock LS3 Turbo 350 Camaro vs MS4 geared stalled Camaro
05-16-2010, 11:13 AM
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Heads/Cam ironblock LS3 Turbo 350 Camaro vs MS4 geared stalled Camaro Ok, so last night a friend of mine gave me a ring and let me know a guy that i know had finally gotten his car together and thought we should run. I know the guy and him and I have had a Camaro rivalry for years.
His car is a 2001 Camaro SS. He used to have a similar setup to me but blew the motor, yanked it, and put something better in. His current setup is a ironblock LS3 thats also bored 70 over. He has ported PRC heads and a G6X3 cam. He also has a 3 speed turbo 350 trans. He also just had it dynotuned at PCMforless.
My mods are in my sig, however i DID NOT use the nitrous. Trust me, I wanted to, however it is not dynotuned yet and I am not running the risk of blowing my motor for a street race. Once it's tuned I'll spray all the time.
But to add to my mods, or lack thereof, I am on 100% stock heads, and a Frost email tune.
We only did one run and it was a 45-120. We were both on street tires (yes i am on street tires on these Prostars, the person i bought them from mounted 28" street tires for some reason and I havent switched over to the MT DR's yet.)
We honked three times and right off the hit i spun and he dead hooked. He immediately jumped out a car on me because of the hit. I slowed his pull as we increased speeds but he continuously pulled. He finished two cars ahead exactly.
I feel as though my car did well, and better than i expected. Everyone thought it would be close but me (minus the owner of the other Camaro), however it did end up being pretty close. If i hadnt have spun i think i probably couldve pulled right off of the hit and then he would pulled me back and slowly walked past me. It wouldve been CLOSE if i had hooked. The gears help me a lot but thats what causes me to spin, even at high speeds with street tires.
His car is also gutted (no backseat, no carpeting, no center console, gutted trunk, no AC, etc. Im at 100% full weight with A/C. Heres a pic of his motor and also a video of the race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDmghzeprE
Before the race he asked if i was spraying and i said no. He said youll need a 500 shot, somewhat mocking my cam only stock cubed car. Not quite.
A 200 shot that ill be spraying will be plenty to brush him off given those results. 
His car is a 2001 Camaro SS. He used to have a similar setup to me but blew the motor, yanked it, and put something better in. His current setup is a ironblock LS3 thats also bored 70 over. He has ported PRC heads and a G6X3 cam. He also has a 3 speed turbo 350 trans. He also just had it dynotuned at PCMforless.
My mods are in my sig, however i DID NOT use the nitrous. Trust me, I wanted to, however it is not dynotuned yet and I am not running the risk of blowing my motor for a street race. Once it's tuned I'll spray all the time.
But to add to my mods, or lack thereof, I am on 100% stock heads, and a Frost email tune. We only did one run and it was a 45-120. We were both on street tires (yes i am on street tires on these Prostars, the person i bought them from mounted 28" street tires for some reason and I havent switched over to the MT DR's yet.)
We honked three times and right off the hit i spun and he dead hooked. He immediately jumped out a car on me because of the hit. I slowed his pull as we increased speeds but he continuously pulled. He finished two cars ahead exactly. I feel as though my car did well, and better than i expected. Everyone thought it would be close but me (minus the owner of the other Camaro), however it did end up being pretty close. If i hadnt have spun i think i probably couldve pulled right off of the hit and then he would pulled me back and slowly walked past me. It wouldve been CLOSE if i had hooked. The gears help me a lot but thats what causes me to spin, even at high speeds with street tires.
His car is also gutted (no backseat, no carpeting, no center console, gutted trunk, no AC, etc. Im at 100% full weight with A/C. Heres a pic of his motor and also a video of the race.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lDmghzeprE
Before the race he asked if i was spraying and i said no. He said youll need a 500 shot, somewhat mocking my cam only stock cubed car. Not quite.
A 200 shot that ill be spraying will be plenty to brush him off given those results. Last edited by kilgothephenom; 05-17-2010 at 05:50 PM.
05-16-2010, 10:11 PM
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Your cam only full weight car only got pulled by 2 cars from a roll vs a Gutted all bore ls3 heads cam car?
And he "dead hooked" a 500+ car on street tires in a gutted car where you spin?
And he "dead hooked" a 500+ car on street tires in a gutted car where you spin?
05-17-2010, 02:52 AM
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Surprised no one else picked up on this before but you have some facts wrong about the engine. There is no suck thing as an iron block LS3. They are all alluminum even the 6.2L engines they put in the trucks are alluminum. Besides you cannot bore a LS3 .70 over the sleeves aren't thick enough. So as it seems the guys was bullshitting you about what is done to his car. If it was and LQ9 6.0l iron block the recommended max overbore is @.060 over which would be a 4.060 bore size. The recommended max overbore on a LS3 is .015 which would make it a 4.075 bore. Ask him to please tell us the truth about his engine so we can get a better understanding of what actually happened in this race. Thanks
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05-17-2010, 05:50 PM
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Video is now up and i will edit it in to the first post. The video is very bad quality but i figure A video is better than NO video. Like i said, i never BS on here.
I will try to talk to the builder of his motor to find out more info.
I will try to talk to the builder of his motor to find out more info.
05-17-2010, 10:26 PM
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Found out its a LY6 6.0L block bored out to the LS3 specs. He added PRC ported LS3 heads and the G6X3 cam. So essentially, its an iron block LS3.
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Found out its a LY6 6.0L block bored out to the LS3 specs. He added PRC ported LS3 heads and the G6X3 cam. So essentially, its an iron block LS3.
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woowwww This post is bullshit this is my ly6 camaro that I just got up and running. Had a slight tune which was running at an 11 afr (monitoring with ngk afx wideband) which is pig rich which kills torque hinting why it took my car a second. We raced again and I murdered you by 4 or more cars I had my car buried I mean I didnt even think you were racing even a 200 shot would maybe put you a car in front of me oh wait I don't need a bottle to go that fast. You also have 410 gears which helps on a big *** cam ls1 motor. And I never asked if you were spraying cause you hadddd noooo nitrous!!!!!!! This post is bulllllll. If I knew you were going to post the video then I would have got my **** running right. Oh post the new video didn't see that on the forum figures No carpet= gutted yea right. My carpet was mildewy thats why it was removed oh and the iron block weighs another 75lbs exactly to anyone who doesn't know. But now I know you are a liar that is for damn sure. Plus im going with a single turbo or a 300 shot plate kit. Ur ls1 will never outrun my forged 6.2L 377 cubic inch block Also you can stroke these motors sucks for u.
No carpet= gutted yea right. My carpet was mildewy thats why it was removed oh and the iron block weighs another 75lbs exactly to anyone who doesn't know. But now I know you are a liar that is for damn sure. Plus im going with a single turbo or a 300 shot plate kit. Ur ls1 will never outrun my forged 6.2L 377 cubic inch block Also you can stroke these motors sucks for u. 
09-16-2010, 04:36 PM
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CammedSS: your build should be over 500rwhp IF you and your tuner properly matched everything. If not, your 464rwhp might just be all it has. How does the single plane manifold fit? I assume you have to go with a hood scoop? Whats your compression ratio with those pistons and only .020" head milling?
One other thing- if he throws a 100 shot on his car he will probably take you. A 200 shot and he WILL take you. Power is Power, doesnt matter if you get it N/A or thru Nitrous.
One other thing- if he throws a 100 shot on his car he will probably take you. A 200 shot and he WILL take you. Power is Power, doesnt matter if you get it N/A or thru Nitrous.