1st Highway Kill of 2010-370Z
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To be honest man, I have no idea. LS2 GTO, LS1 F-body (if I can find a clean low-mile '01 or '02), another S2000, foxbody Mustang... who knows? Out of the SRT-8 and the GXP though, I'd have to say the GXP. The LSx series is great, and I of course favor the 6spd manuals.
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I don't give two ***** about the numbers kid. The Camaro isn't a sports car, and the 370Z is. If you need clarification of that, apparently you also don't know what a sports car is. I could make a '95 S10 go around a road course fast, but that doesn't make it anything but a fast pickup.
They are talking about stock trim cars.
Whats a sports car? I thought it was a sporty car... is a camaro, mustang or challenger not sporty? They are boats but if a car is a little quick and handles well i think it qualifies as a sports car.
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This guy doesn't even have a car
...And I dare you to tell me I am a spoiled rich kid that had his mommy and daddy's buy his car.
I ******* earned my car by doing 2 GD deployments in the Marines Corps. Saved up all of it and paid for my **** in full. Go troll somewhere else your *** is useless here.
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I ******* earned my car by doing 2 GD deployments in the Marines Corps. Saved up all of it and paid for my **** in full. Go troll somewhere else your *** is useless here.
I was leaving Lowes last Monday when some obese jerk off walked up to me while removing my T-tops and said: "Someone is awfully spoiled to be given a car like that"
I replied "Obviously not nearly as spoiled as you having Twinkies and ho-hos served to you all day. I worked my *** off to buy this car, something you don't appear to understand"
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This guy doesn't even have a car
...And I dare you to tell me I am a spoiled rich kid that had his mommy and daddy's buy his car.
I ******* earned my car by doing 2 GD deployments in the Marines Corps. Saved up all of it and paid for my **** in full. Go troll somewhere else your *** is useless here.
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I ******* earned my car by doing 2 GD deployments in the Marines Corps. Saved up all of it and paid for my **** in full. Go troll somewhere else your *** is useless here.
Irunelevens does not troll, he gives facts. I have NEVER seen him start **** with people, he only backs up platforms and is VERY unbiased while doing it.
How is a 370z a POS? It is one of the best performing V6 cars on the market in all categories, doesn't look half bad, sounds good for an import, and has a very competitive price tag. Please go further in detail with this.
I know you have never set foot in a '10 SS. A guy who lived next to me in HS had a red 350z:
Interior wise, my SS has more space, is more comfortable, and the gauges in the middle are life savers when it comes time to drag.
Torque wise, my auto has more torque than the manual camaros. Acceleration wise, it's much faster than the 350z.
Driveability, first day I had it I drove 1,100 round trip to Fredericksburg Texas. Smoothest nicest ride I have ever had (formally drove a acura RL, and a S-class Benz). The car isn't shaky at all and when your going 100mph it seems like your going 50. You never even have to use 6th gear ffs since the limiter kicks in at 155.
So, is this comparison enough for you. Or would you like to add anything that my spoiled daddy's little rich kid *** doesn't know.
Interior wise, my SS has more space, is more comfortable, and the gauges in the middle are life savers when it comes time to drag.
Torque wise, my auto has more torque than the manual camaros. Acceleration wise, it's much faster than the 350z.
Driveability, first day I had it I drove 1,100 round trip to Fredericksburg Texas. Smoothest nicest ride I have ever had (formally drove a acura RL, and a S-class Benz). The car isn't shaky at all and when your going 100mph it seems like your going 50. You never even have to use 6th gear ffs since the limiter kicks in at 155.
So, is this comparison enough for you. Or would you like to add anything that my spoiled daddy's little rich kid *** doesn't know.
A car being more comfortable is completely opinion. The gauges thing, I don't even know why you brought that up, it is irrelevant. You don't buy a 370Z to drag race it. Space?
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I thought we were comparing your car to a 350/370Z? Why does it matter if you make more Rwtq than a manual 2010? Again, who cares if it is quicker, two totally different platforms. Even at that, it isn't THAT much faster, not when looking at the whole package.
Again, he has to own a "decent car" to "talk crap", you are the moron "talking crap".
And apparently lemons agrees with me. Is he a nutswinger too?
Which means that statement is unfounded as well. And if you notice he wasn't talked **** about anything, he was stating his observations from owning both cars. And just to clarify, I'm 25... I called you guys "kids" because that's what you are acting like.
Which means that statement is unfounded as well. And if you notice he wasn't talked **** about anything, he was stating his observations from owning both cars. And just to clarify, I'm 25... I called you guys "kids" because that's what you are acting like.
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IIRC one of the ones posting is 21. That would explain the personal threats for no reason whatsoever.
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A camaro/mustang/trans am/GTO/etc etc etc is not a sports car, has never been a sports car, and will never be a sports car. They are modern day muscle cars.
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Incorrect... A vette/miata/350Z/370Z/porsche/etc etc etc (2 door, small, nimble, 2 seat, etc etc etc) is what makes a car a sports car. Just because dumb *** insurance agencies call them sports cars, does not make it so.
A camaro/mustang/trans am/GTO/etc etc etc is not a sports car, has never been a sports car, and will never be a sports car. They are modern day muscle cars.
A camaro/mustang/trans am/GTO/etc etc etc is not a sports car, has never been a sports car, and will never be a sports car. They are modern day muscle cars.
Is a miata really a sports car? I guess then cars like an escort, eclipse or mini coopers are now sports cars too. In reality they are generally considered compact cars.
So is an RX-8 not a sports car because it has more than 2 seats or 2 doors? It must be a muscle car huh?
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So an LS1 vette is a sports car and an LS1 camaro/trans am isn't? They are more comparable than the vette to the other sports cars on your list. Is it because they have 4 seats?
Is a miata really a sports car? I guess then cars like an escort, eclipse or mini coopers are now sports cars too. In reality they are generally considered compact cars.
So is an RX-8 not a sports car because it has more than 2 seats or 2 doors? It must be a muscle car huh?
Is a miata really a sports car? I guess then cars like an escort, eclipse or mini coopers are now sports cars too. In reality they are generally considered compact cars.
So is an RX-8 not a sports car because it has more than 2 seats or 2 doors? It must be a muscle car huh?
When you make posts such as that you do not make yourself sound very intelligent as far as car platforms are concerned.
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How are you gonna call a C5 Z06 not special this car was a huge step forward in Modern Muscle cars. It brought us the LS6 engine. I would say this car is very special.
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When they came out they were a huge "break through" if you will. In todays world, they are nothing special. The Zr1 when it came out way back when was a big daddy, it hardly gets mentioned today. Hell, look at the Lt1.. When the ls1 came out people were saying how there is no way it could outperform the lt1, especially because of price tag. Look what it did, the lt1 was soon forgotten.
The C5Z for the money is a killer buy, that is irrelevant though. Fact is, in its class it is no longer the top dog.
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That is not muscle car characteristics by any means. There are VERY few things you could argue that make it a true muscle car really.
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Well im sorry but the C5 Z06 is still a great car (and not b/c I own one) and it is still a special car. Hell the C5 Z06's can beat the 05-06 LS2 Corvettes on the track any day stock for stock, whats that say for a not so special car?
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I was not being in an *** towards you in my posts, I was trying to enlighten you so you were no longer ignorant on the subject. You can use your best judgment and take the information in my post and make the best judgment on what is and is not a sports car.
When you make posts such as that you do not make yourself sound very intelligent as far as car platforms are concerned.
When you make posts such as that you do not make yourself sound very intelligent as far as car platforms are concerned.
I guess my opinion of a sports car wasn't perfect/correct but you hardly clarified things. You didn't provide a definition of a sports car or muscle car by any means. You just created a partially correct list of cars in the 2 categories. I hardly feel this could be claimed as enlightening by any means.
sports car:
–noun
a small, high-powered automobile with long, low lines, usually seating two persons
n. An automobile equipped for racing, especially an aerodynamically shaped one-passenger or two-passenger vehicle having a low center of gravity and steering and suspension designed for precise control at high speeds.
muscle car:
n. A high-performance automobile, often with flashy, sporty styling.
So, these being official definitions as published in Webster's Dictionary, I suppose many cars can fall into multiple categories and is somewhat up to individual opinion.
I didn't take your post with any apprehension and was not intending to sound like an *** either. I thought I replied with the same tone as you had.
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Needed the money. Plain and simple.
If I had an unlimited budget, and turned a 2500HD Silverado into the best corner-carver in the country, with 1,200hp, and it went around the Nurburgring faster than a Z06, would it be a sports car? Capabilities and numbers are not what define a car.
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Yes on both accounts. Again, what a car can do numbers-wise doesn't define what it is. A Miata is more of a sports car than any F-body will ever be, by design.
Tell you what, calm down and explain why you think it's a "shitty *** waste of money." They start under $30k btw.
You could make anything blah blah blah....
They are talking about stock trim cars.
Whats a sports car? I thought it was a sporty car... is a camaro, mustang or challenger not sporty? They are boats but if a car is a little quick and handles well i think it qualifies as a sports car.
They are talking about stock trim cars.
Whats a sports car? I thought it was a sporty car... is a camaro, mustang or challenger not sporty? They are boats but if a car is a little quick and handles well i think it qualifies as a sports car.
And it is getting worse and worse. With the newer cars getting closer and closer in comparison, the biased nut swinging is becoming more and more evident in peoples posts. The price of the platforms does not help either.
Watch posts like this, personal threats are not looked very highly upon.
What does him not having a car "worthy" of what you guys drive have to do with him being correct in almost every one of his posts on this subject and you guys being wrong?
Irunelevens does not troll, he gives facts. I have NEVER seen him start **** with people, he only backs up platforms and is VERY unbiased while doing it.
Why would that make him an idiot? It would be like putting a Intergra in the same class as a C5Z just because they have 2 doors. A sports car is a sports car and a muscle car is a muscle car. VERY few people will cross shop between an fbody and a 370z. The only reason one would consider a 2010SS while looking at a new 370z is because of price similarities, but even then I see it rare at best.
How is a 370z a POS? It is one of the best performing V6 cars on the market in all categories, doesn't look half bad, sounds good for an import, and has a very competitive price tag. Please go further in detail with this.
I have.. So if irunelevens hasn't, I will respond to this.
A car being more comfortable is completely opinion. The gauges thing, I don't even know why you brought that up, it is irrelevant. You don't buy a 370Z to drag race it. Space?
You are comparing a boat to a sports car, you are surprised it has more space?
I thought we were comparing your car to a 350/370Z? Why does it matter if you make more Rwtq than a manual 2010? Again, who cares if it is quicker, two totally different platforms. Even at that, it isn't THAT much faster, not when looking at the whole package.
Why is he an idiot? Not one of you have had any facts to back any of your biased close minded opinions up. I think he has made some very good points.
Again, he has to own a "decent car" to "talk crap", you are the moron "talking crap".
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IIRC one of the ones posting is 21. That would explain the personal threats for no reason whatsoever.
Neither was Irunelevens, what thread are you reading?
Just because you own a C5Z doesn't mean ****. You can pick up a C5Z for 17-22K nowadays, they are nothing special anymore nor do they show any kind of "status".
Incorrect... A vette/miata/350Z/370Z/porsche/etc etc etc (2 door, small, nimble, 2 seat, etc etc etc) is what makes a car a sports car. Just because dumb *** insurance agencies call them sports cars, does not make it so.
A camaro/mustang/trans am/GTO/etc etc etc is not a sports car, has never been a sports car, and will never be a sports car. They are modern day muscle cars.
Watch posts like this, personal threats are not looked very highly upon.
What does him not having a car "worthy" of what you guys drive have to do with him being correct in almost every one of his posts on this subject and you guys being wrong?
Irunelevens does not troll, he gives facts. I have NEVER seen him start **** with people, he only backs up platforms and is VERY unbiased while doing it.
Why would that make him an idiot? It would be like putting a Intergra in the same class as a C5Z just because they have 2 doors. A sports car is a sports car and a muscle car is a muscle car. VERY few people will cross shop between an fbody and a 370z. The only reason one would consider a 2010SS while looking at a new 370z is because of price similarities, but even then I see it rare at best.
How is a 370z a POS? It is one of the best performing V6 cars on the market in all categories, doesn't look half bad, sounds good for an import, and has a very competitive price tag. Please go further in detail with this.
I have.. So if irunelevens hasn't, I will respond to this.
A car being more comfortable is completely opinion. The gauges thing, I don't even know why you brought that up, it is irrelevant. You don't buy a 370Z to drag race it. Space?
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I thought we were comparing your car to a 350/370Z? Why does it matter if you make more Rwtq than a manual 2010? Again, who cares if it is quicker, two totally different platforms. Even at that, it isn't THAT much faster, not when looking at the whole package.
Why is he an idiot? Not one of you have had any facts to back any of your biased close minded opinions up. I think he has made some very good points.
Again, he has to own a "decent car" to "talk crap", you are the moron "talking crap".
100%... I am probably the big nut swinger of them all.
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IIRC one of the ones posting is 21. That would explain the personal threats for no reason whatsoever.
Neither was Irunelevens, what thread are you reading?
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Incorrect... A vette/miata/350Z/370Z/porsche/etc etc etc (2 door, small, nimble, 2 seat, etc etc etc) is what makes a car a sports car. Just because dumb *** insurance agencies call them sports cars, does not make it so.
A camaro/mustang/trans am/GTO/etc etc etc is not a sports car, has never been a sports car, and will never be a sports car. They are modern day muscle cars.
So an LS1 vette is a sports car and an LS1 camaro/trans am isn't? They are more comparable than the vette to the other sports cars on your list. Is it because they have 4 seats?
Is a miata really a sports car? I guess then cars like an escort, eclipse or mini coopers are now sports cars too. In reality they are generally considered compact cars.
So is an RX-8 not a sports car because it has more than 2 seats or 2 doors? It must be a muscle car huh?
Is a miata really a sports car? I guess then cars like an escort, eclipse or mini coopers are now sports cars too. In reality they are generally considered compact cars.
So is an RX-8 not a sports car because it has more than 2 seats or 2 doors? It must be a muscle car huh?
Tell you what, calm down and explain why you think it's a "shitty *** waste of money." They start under $30k btw.
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Do u feel strong sayin "grab a tissue" for no reason like everyone else?
FYI using ****** is pretty lame it was used in grade school. You nee to step up your game and call me a *** guzzling **** avenger or something a little creative at least.