My bolt on Z/28 gets her first 2010 ss kill!!!
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so you are saying there is no way a stock ls1 can run 12's in the 1/4,i have seen both my buddies run 7.8 when their 02 ss's were brand new,one a4,the other m6.and the car in question he said that his friend's 94 ran 12.8,soooooo if he could beat that that would be a 8.3 or lower in the 1/8th right.
My car bone stock down to the paper filter went 8.81 in the 1/8th and with the mods I have listed in sig my best run is a 8.55 in the 1/8th..
But I'am adding a Stall/LTs/ORY/160stat/tune. Later down the road 373 gears. I'am gonna be on DR's when I go back to the track.. I should be in the 7s..
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Lots of hate for the 5th Gen... I actually like them a lot, and the LS3 is a great motor even if it's in a heavier car (which was going to happen eventually thanks to federal regs). Could be worse, could be a 4 door and weigh in over 4100 stock lol.
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so you are saying there is no way a stock ls1 can run 12's in the 1/4,i have seen both my buddies run 7.8 when their 02 ss's were brand new,one a4,the other m6.and the car in question he said that his friend's 94 ran 12.8,soooooo if he could beat that that would be a 8.3 or lower in the 1/8th right.
The worlds fastest bone stock LS1 record is a 12.89-12.98. Its on here some where. 8.32 is like a 12.89 in the 1/4. 8.38 is like a 12.98 in the 1/4.
My car bone stock down to the paper filter went 8.81 in the 1/8th and with the mods I have listed in sig my best run is a 8.55 in the 1/8th..
But I'am adding a Stall/LTs/ORY/160stat/tune. Later down the road 373 gears. I'am gonna be on DR's when I go back to the track.. I should be in the 7s..
My car bone stock down to the paper filter went 8.81 in the 1/8th and with the mods I have listed in sig my best run is a 8.55 in the 1/8th..
But I'am adding a Stall/LTs/ORY/160stat/tune. Later down the road 373 gears. I'am gonna be on DR's when I go back to the track.. I should be in the 7s..
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driver mod most definately lol...
read some..
and i can out drive this guy anyday of the week, he's my good friend lol
some SLP long tubes & a cam and viola!
bottom line.. if you own an L99 it too can be made quick without spending an arm and a leg.. so when your friend gets this cam it'll be lights out lol
read some..
2010 Camaro Upgrade - 2010 Camaro: The First Push
We Baseline A New F-Body, Then Break Out The Tools-Both Metallic And Electronic-In The Pursuit Of The 11s.
From the October, 2009 issue of Super Chevy
By Mike Ficacci
Photography by Mike Ficacci
We were a little late to the game with this '10 Camaro, owned by Tune Time Performance (Toms River, NJ), but have hit the ground running with an awesome first day and educational week. Which magazine went fastest? Who actually had a stock car when they did their baseline testing? I guess we can never be 100 percent sure of what anyone else does besides ourselves, and I for one am pleased with our baseline testing and first set of modifications.
We hit Old Bridge Township Raceway Park in New Jersey on June 17, 2009, and made four passes in this automatic-equipped Camaro. One hit was made completely stock and two were made with a custom tune complements of Tune Time Performance.
We brought a handheld weather station with us, which read about 1,000 feet above sea level upon our arrival and dropped to 250 feet as the barometer rose and the dew point fell. Our first pass was promising for our 6L80E-equipped SS with a 13.252 at 106.42 mph. We expected as much based on the numbers we had on file from a Pontiac G8 GT the year prior.
Matt Hauffe, owner of Tune Time Performance, was at the wheel and had this to say. "Getting the '10 Camaro to leave the line is just about as simple as it comes. The stock program limits power and all you have to do is put your foot down and hope for the best."
Matt then loaded his file and made back-to-back hits, the first of which was a 13.031 at 107.71 mph. The second was slightly faster, but 10 times more satisfying as we were able to get the Camaro into the 12s simple by breaking out the computer tuner. The result was a 12.947 elapsed time at 108.39 mph.
Of course, running high 12s is only enjoyable for a short period of time. For our next trick, we called the people at Mast Motorsports, who are truly at the forefront of variable valve timing technology like that in the 400hp L99 engine. We got our hands on its VVT camshaft package and also bolted on a set of SLP Performance 1 3/4-inch headers and 3-inch exhaust.
Variable valve timing is actually quite simple once understood. In conventional engines, you choose a camshaft grind and install it advanced, straight up, or retarded based on manufacturer recommendations and what purpose the engine is for. Variable valve timing allows you to change camshaft timing while the engine is in operation, ultimately making more peak torque down low via an advanced camshaft and more peak horsepower up top via a retarded camshaft.
Ultimately, we squeezed a whopping 406 wheel horsepower out of this 6.2-liter L99. Follow along as we install the Mast Motorsports VVT camshaft and SLP headers and exhaust.
We Baseline A New F-Body, Then Break Out The Tools-Both Metallic And Electronic-In The Pursuit Of The 11s.
From the October, 2009 issue of Super Chevy
By Mike Ficacci
Photography by Mike Ficacci
We were a little late to the game with this '10 Camaro, owned by Tune Time Performance (Toms River, NJ), but have hit the ground running with an awesome first day and educational week. Which magazine went fastest? Who actually had a stock car when they did their baseline testing? I guess we can never be 100 percent sure of what anyone else does besides ourselves, and I for one am pleased with our baseline testing and first set of modifications.
We hit Old Bridge Township Raceway Park in New Jersey on June 17, 2009, and made four passes in this automatic-equipped Camaro. One hit was made completely stock and two were made with a custom tune complements of Tune Time Performance.
We brought a handheld weather station with us, which read about 1,000 feet above sea level upon our arrival and dropped to 250 feet as the barometer rose and the dew point fell. Our first pass was promising for our 6L80E-equipped SS with a 13.252 at 106.42 mph. We expected as much based on the numbers we had on file from a Pontiac G8 GT the year prior.
Matt Hauffe, owner of Tune Time Performance, was at the wheel and had this to say. "Getting the '10 Camaro to leave the line is just about as simple as it comes. The stock program limits power and all you have to do is put your foot down and hope for the best."
Matt then loaded his file and made back-to-back hits, the first of which was a 13.031 at 107.71 mph. The second was slightly faster, but 10 times more satisfying as we were able to get the Camaro into the 12s simple by breaking out the computer tuner. The result was a 12.947 elapsed time at 108.39 mph.
Of course, running high 12s is only enjoyable for a short period of time. For our next trick, we called the people at Mast Motorsports, who are truly at the forefront of variable valve timing technology like that in the 400hp L99 engine. We got our hands on its VVT camshaft package and also bolted on a set of SLP Performance 1 3/4-inch headers and 3-inch exhaust.
Variable valve timing is actually quite simple once understood. In conventional engines, you choose a camshaft grind and install it advanced, straight up, or retarded based on manufacturer recommendations and what purpose the engine is for. Variable valve timing allows you to change camshaft timing while the engine is in operation, ultimately making more peak torque down low via an advanced camshaft and more peak horsepower up top via a retarded camshaft.
Ultimately, we squeezed a whopping 406 wheel horsepower out of this 6.2-liter L99. Follow along as we install the Mast Motorsports VVT camshaft and SLP headers and exhaust.
some SLP long tubes & a cam and viola!
Once that's out of the way, we can remove the factory camshaft. The stock camshaft specs out at 0.500-inch intake/0.492-inch exhaust lift, 195-degrees of duration intake and 201-degrees of duration on the exhaust. Our Mast Motorsports camshaft is going to increase lift on both the intake and exhaust side. Its kit provides a stronger valve springs capable of handling the added lift an duration.
The Mast Motorsports camshaft comes in much larger than factory in both lift and duration at 0.573I/0.588E with durations of 220-degress intake and 234-degrees exhaust, with a lobe separation angle of 116-degrees. The unique design of Masts camshafts ensure driveability, yet also make power through the entire power band. As you can see, the valve springs are larger off the cylinder head, which results in a tighter coil when installed. Not installing proper valve springs when using a larger camshaft can result in valve float, which kills horsepower and can do serious damage to an engine.
We then headed over to the dyno and made an impressive 406 rear-wheel horsepower at 6,300 rpm and 378 lb-ft of torque at 4,600. The L99 made over 400 hp from 5,800-6,500 rpm.
We then hit the track and let this baby rip. What was the result? Low e.t. was 12.278 at 114.54 mph and we were still on the stock 20-inch Pirelli radials. Our corrected altitude was now 3,000 ft above sea-level, serving notice that there are 11-second e.t.'s waiting to be unleashed by this F-body.
The Mast Motorsports camshaft comes in much larger than factory in both lift and duration at 0.573I/0.588E with durations of 220-degress intake and 234-degrees exhaust, with a lobe separation angle of 116-degrees. The unique design of Masts camshafts ensure driveability, yet also make power through the entire power band. As you can see, the valve springs are larger off the cylinder head, which results in a tighter coil when installed. Not installing proper valve springs when using a larger camshaft can result in valve float, which kills horsepower and can do serious damage to an engine.
We then headed over to the dyno and made an impressive 406 rear-wheel horsepower at 6,300 rpm and 378 lb-ft of torque at 4,600. The L99 made over 400 hp from 5,800-6,500 rpm.
We then hit the track and let this baby rip. What was the result? Low e.t. was 12.278 at 114.54 mph and we were still on the stock 20-inch Pirelli radials. Our corrected altitude was now 3,000 ft above sea-level, serving notice that there are 11-second e.t.'s waiting to be unleashed by this F-body.
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get ready to laugh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkXFFrpVgRQ
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are you saying that as a matter of fact? or is it an assumption? It's at Atco but it didn't look cold enough for it to be one of those -2500' days. If that's stock that's the got to be the fastest stock F body ever.. but then again, i've witnessed a bone stock '92 Z28 run a 13.7 at E-town on the stock goodyears in '92. Kid weighed a buck twenty with pockets full of nickels and could never duplicate the run. Never touched 13's again, not even that night.. we all went there together and ran each other every night of the week on the street in S.I. i knew that car inside an out. Another head scratcher..
Then there's that guy in early '06 with the silver 300SRT8 that went 12.5 again bone stock, at Atco.. wtf knows?
Then there's that guy in early '06 with the silver 300SRT8 that went 12.5 again bone stock, at Atco.. wtf knows?
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I honestly dont know. I just have a really hard time wrapping my head around a bone stock LS1 running 12.60s. Now i could see a bone stock car with a tune do this. I just have my doubts on a factory tune car running these kind of times. Thats just my 2 cents
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are you saying that as a matter of fact? or is it an assumption? It's at Atco but it didn't look cold enough for it to be one of those -2500' days. If that's stock that's the got to be the fastest stock F body ever.. but then again, i've witnessed a bone stock '92 Z28 run a 13.7 at E-town on the stock goodyears in '92. Kid weighed a buck twenty with pockets full of nickels and could never duplicate the run. Never touched 13's again, not even that night.. we all went there together and ran each other every night of the week on the street in S.I. i knew that car inside an out. Another head scratcher..
Then there's that guy in early '06 with the silver 300SRT8 that went 12.5 again bone stock, at Atco.. wtf knows?
Then there's that guy in early '06 with the silver 300SRT8 that went 12.5 again bone stock, at Atco.. wtf knows?
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LS1 F-body cars, tune only, don't run 12.6. Unless that tune includes throwing a **** load of timing into it. And even then, it probably won't be a reproducible run.
If you found someone telling you otherwise, they lied to you.
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I havent ran my car since ive done a few free mods. but the best ive ever ran was 13.26 on DRs. The car was completly bone stock then.
I could see a stock car with a tune goin 12.60s. Run alot of timing and put a driver who aint afraid of rippin gears and i think 12.60s is fairly possible.
I could see a stock car with a tune goin 12.60s. Run alot of timing and put a driver who aint afraid of rippin gears and i think 12.60s is fairly possible.
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I would have to ask you the same question because people here bashed the 2011 gt for running 12.3 because it had better tires on it. (oh, that's not stock etc...)
Do I consider it stock, no. is it extremely unfairly modded, not at all.
people have different levels of rediculousness.
Do I consider it stock, no. is it extremely unfairly modded, not at all.
people have different levels of rediculousness.
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I would have to ask you the same question because people here bashed the 2011 gt for running 12.3 because it had better tires on it. (oh, that's not stock etc...)
Do I consider it stock, no. is it extremely unfairly modded, not at all.
people have different levels of rediculousness.
Do I consider it stock, no. is it extremely unfairly modded, not at all.
people have different levels of rediculousness.
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heres another thats so funny
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YdsrPtaJ-lkand another thing i guess my definition of stock is different from some other people.my buddies m6 i was talking about had a tune and nittos,and the a4 had a stall ,tune and nittos still stock to me.i guess im just crazy.
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