FINALLY ran into a 6.0 GTO...this one was cammed.....and a 04 Cobra
08-03-2010, 05:42 PM
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Just interesting that all the facts always come from the near stock guys. Just sayin. Dont have to feel attacked over it but is it not true? The SR&K section is full of near-stock genius. All anyone has to do to build a heavy motor is come into this section and read a few posts from the near-stockers and its 9 second car all day from there.
That leaves out a ton of variables. Namely, I would bet that its not in the 240 range of duration or even the high 230s. Were talking about big cammed LS2s here, like MS3/4, Polluter, Mega Death....etc 240 duration range cylinder counters.
If you made 422 cam only on one of the big cams your either in very high DA or something isnt right.
Either way I bet any big cammed LS2 GTO is not expecting a close run or to get yanked by a N/A SN95. That was a good showing by you. Would have liked to be there to see it go down.
Nice kill.
That leaves out a ton of variables. Namely, I would bet that its not in the 240 range of duration or even the high 230s. Were talking about big cammed LS2s here, like MS3/4, Polluter, Mega Death....etc 240 duration range cylinder counters.
If you made 422 cam only on one of the big cams your either in very high DA or something isnt right.
Either way I bet any big cammed LS2 GTO is not expecting a close run or to get yanked by a N/A SN95. That was a good showing by you. Would have liked to be there to see it go down.
Nice kill.
08-03-2010, 05:48 PM
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Yeah your right. Big cams only "sound" mean. They dont do **** when put against giant stalls or correct combos. BRB, gotta tell all the MS4 and TREX guys in the "Fastest" list that they need to bump down to a Torqer2.
08-03-2010, 05:54 PM
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The difference is I dont sit and bench race numbers so deep in every thread to where Im throwing out facts about what I dont have. If I give advice or make a statement about what makes what power at least I have some experience with it rather than just what I've read.
please tell me exactly what combo will give an LS2 GTO what through what trans, I apparently dont know what I'm talking about here.
please tell me exactly what combo will give an LS2 GTO what through what trans, I apparently dont know what I'm talking about here.
You told me I was wrong, I never said you were wrong. Funny thing is, I was right.
If you truly think that, you have a lot to learn.
08-03-2010, 05:55 PM
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ok dude so your gonna tell me a custom speced cam won't run with an of the shelf cam? its not all about peak hp either..my car is a daily driver not a track car.
08-03-2010, 06:00 PM
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Yes... An average big cam car can't do **** against a correctly set up small cam car.
I am not a hater against big cams.. My white car had an Ms4... But guess what? I am matching those times with "more tame" mods, more weight, MUCH small cam. Next track visit I will surpass its ET and MPH while still having more "tame" mods and weighing more.
It is the COMPLETE setup, period.
08-03-2010, 06:00 PM
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That is true but people have been making that argument to shoot down big cams for years now. Any well spec'd combo can be made to run fast. HOWEVER, a well spec'd BIG combo will generally be the ones in the Fastest list on any GM, GTO, CTS-V,....etc board. 230 cam'd LS2 GTO M6s have a hard time breaking into the low 12s with most drivers.
08-03-2010, 06:05 PM
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That is true but people have been making that argument to shoot down big cams for years now. Any well spec'd combo can be made to run fast. HOWEVER, a well spec'd BIG combo will generally be the ones in the Fastest list on any GM, GTO, CTS-V,....etc board. 230 cam'd LS2 GTO M6s have a hard time breaking into the low 12s with most drivers.
Even in that case, the smaller cam car can still be right there with it.
I have been talking average this entire time... Why would you bring up the best?
I will smash an average big cam setup... I have a "baby" cam by what most consider it. 226/228 .588 114.. I am still full weight/had an ls6 intake/ported TB/hand ported/milled 317s/373s/etc...
08-03-2010, 06:08 PM
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That is true but people have been making that argument to shoot down big cams for years now. Any well spec'd combo can be made to run fast. HOWEVER, a well spec'd BIG combo will generally be the ones in the Fastest list on any GM, GTO, CTS-V,....etc board. 230 cam'd LS2 GTO M6s have a hard time breaking into the low 12s with most drivers.
08-03-2010, 06:08 PM
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Just interesting that all the facts always come from the near stock guys. Just sayin. Dont have to feel attacked over it but is it not true? The SR&K section is full of near-stock genius. All anyone has to do to build a heavy motor is come into this section and read a few posts from the near-stockers and its 9 second car all day from there.
If your car is indeed near stock then stay out of the "this will run this" convo.
08-03-2010, 06:17 PM
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On a side note a friend of mine works at FAST, they are located here, and said the LS2 intake flowed the worst of all intakes on LS motors. He said the LS1 intake flowed better.
08-03-2010, 06:24 PM
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Please....you clowns crack me up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsdOaYRneQ
I was running 12.2s on bolt ons alone with the videos to back it up. 1.6 short times on the stock suspension. All in +2,000ft DA. Now its got that cylinder counting maniac in there and still launches just as brutal as it did in those videos running H/C/I/E Fbodies. What you think I'm still ******* around in the low 12s after I added that cam (which in turn brought the stall up)?
No need to try and call out my credibility because I have **** to back it up beyond clever posts.
Yeah, no your right. Im all stock, and it runs mid 13s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QsdOaYRneQ
I was running 12.2s on bolt ons alone with the videos to back it up. 1.6 short times on the stock suspension. All in +2,000ft DA. Now its got that cylinder counting maniac in there and still launches just as brutal as it did in those videos running H/C/I/E Fbodies. What you think I'm still ******* around in the low 12s after I added that cam (which in turn brought the stall up)?
No need to try and call out my credibility because I have **** to back it up beyond clever posts.
Yeah, no your right. Im all stock, and it runs mid 13s.
08-03-2010, 06:43 PM
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Please....you clowns crack me up.
I was running 12.2s on bolt ons alone with the videos to back it up. 1.6 short times on the stock suspension. All in +2,000ft DA. Now its got that cylinder counting maniac in there and still launches just as brutal as it did in those videos running H/C/I/E Fbodies. What you think I'm still ******* around in the low 12s after I added that cam (which in turn brought the stall up)?
No need to try and call out my credibility because I have **** to back it up beyond clever posts.
Yeah, no your right. Im all stock, and it runs mid 13s.
I was running 12.2s on bolt ons alone with the videos to back it up. 1.6 short times on the stock suspension. All in +2,000ft DA. Now its got that cylinder counting maniac in there and still launches just as brutal as it did in those videos running H/C/I/E Fbodies. What you think I'm still ******* around in the low 12s after I added that cam (which in turn brought the stall up)?
No need to try and call out my credibility because I have **** to back it up beyond clever posts.
Yeah, no your right. Im all stock, and it runs mid 13s.
We are the clowns.
08-03-2010, 06:52 PM
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My point is... You cam in saying that **** like you had something above what the majority of people have in here. When in reality you have the same or less. You copy/pasted my quote saying it like I am stock or you have SO many mods on me or you would run faster than me.
We are the clowns.
We are the clowns.
08-03-2010, 06:53 PM
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