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Old 08-12-2010, 05:12 PM
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Killed a bike last night. 2001 r6 Champion edition. I laughed as I was on an on-ramp in my 02 ss he cut around me on the shoulder and revved at me. I got on it and laughed as I saw his blubber hanging out of his jeans as his shirt flapped up in the wind as we merged onto the highway. I easily cruised past a few cars and he caught up to me at around 75 mph and hit it. He pulled for a quarter second then stopped, and I pulled away a car length before letting off in 5th. He gave me a thumbs up and i did the same. He got spanked by a stock SS with longtubes. I wonder if he was mad. I know older 600s were a little weak (had an 03 gixxer 6 and 04 gixxer 750) but being as big as he was I wonder if he knows anything about power to weight ratio and how bikes are 'quick' because of it, and generally not fast as at higher speeds the hp has to punch a nasty hole through the wind. If he was my friend I would have told him to start on a 750. Fat+600cc isn't a fast combo.

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BS. You might have beat HIM, but not he bike or its hp to weight with him on it. Even if he was 300lbs, his hp to weight ratio is around 8 to 1. Your cars hp to weight ratio is around 12 to 1. You would need 450rwhp to pull him like you did IMO.

btw I'm 340lbs. want to run my bike? I'll give you 20 cars and the hit, 0-150.
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Your Failin Hard...
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You sure it wasnt a 250 ninja or somethin?
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Originally Posted by Camaro_94
You sure it wasnt a 250 ninja or somethin?
GUess we should ask exactly how fat this guy on the bike was.

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I guess its possible to lose to a stock LS1 on a 600 if it was an old 600, bone stock, he was 300lbs, and started in 6th.

Anything else would have yanked you hard, even from a highway roll where they are weakest.

PS: The thread title says R1 too - which would be even more unlikely to happen, no matter how bad the rider was or how much overweight.
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Ya there is no way that guy was in the right gear or full throttle.
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Maybe he just wanted to hear the car.
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Bs flag is waving high on this one.
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I have a 94 zx-7 it runs a 10.9 quarter mile @132mph consistently, very few power mods on it, i also have a ls1 trans am, with im guessin around 330rwhp and i know for a fact 100 percent truth, my car will catch my bike past 140mph, but till then the bike beats the fuzz out of it, so THERE IT IS, my bike has 110hp at the wheel, and total weight with my 250lb frame is 700lbs, 70ft lb of torque too
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
btw I'm 340lbs. want to run my bike? I'll give you 20 cars and the hit, 0-150.
Damn!
you are a big ***** :hide:

mental note to self: be nice to sticks
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Originally Posted by MIKELMOTORCYCLE3398
I have a 94 zx-7 it runs a 10.9 quarter mile @132mph consistently, very few power mods on it, i also have a ls1 trans am, with im guessin around 330rwhp and i know for a fact 100 percent truth, my car will catch my bike past 140mph, but till then the bike beats the fuzz out of it, so THERE IT IS, my bike has 110hp at the wheel, and total weight with my 250lb frame is 700lbs, 70ft lb of torque too
Thank you. Seems like some people still need a serious education on bikes at speed. Bikes are QUICK. they make up most of their ground at low speed. At higher speed its all about hp vs drag. not lb/hp. Read that again non-believers. and then read it again.

A pre 03 model year 600 cc supersport WILL NOT EVEN BEAT A STOCK C5 @ 100 mph and above. Search youtube. see for yourselves. WHen my 93 was stock with bolt ons 10 years ago, I hunted 600s on the highway. Beat every single one of them. Very few with tons of mods would go neck and neck to 250 km/hr. My vette back then ran 112 mph through the traps.

When I got my first 03 600 I had it dynoed at 107 rwhp after mods (100.3 stock) and ran consistent 129 mph @ the track. I lost a roll race to my cousins STOCK 2001 BMW M5 from a 80 mph roll on.

Consider this. My 03 600 ran 129 mph in the 1/4 mile. A STOCK c6 Z06 runs 127 mph on a good day through the 1/4 mile. my 600 weighed around 360 lbs without me and THINK OF THAT FOR A SECOND. in a 1/4 Mile a c6 z06 still rips through the traps at just 2 mph less. What does that tell you? that it was pulling like a freight train past half track. I'll say it again. bikes are quick. Not fast.

Ive raced many many many bikes/cars in my vette and on both my 03 '600 and 04 750 to know what I'm talking about.

Please put away the bs flag. Know what you are talking about before you raise it. This fat kid could have been in the wrong gear. He may have been out of his powerband by a few k rpms. I expected him to jump on me and pull since we started at freeway speed but I knew all along he was toast if he kept in it.
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You are the man...

No way in hell that kid knew what he was doing.
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Originally Posted by RedRocketZ28
You are the man...

No way in hell that kid knew what he was doing.
Bet he knew what he was doing at the mcdonalds drive through. maybe not on his bike.

You people are really inexperienced with 60cc bikes and misinformed. The brainwashing ability of forums is incredible

One of a million videos of stock cars beating 600cc bikes from roll ons. DOnt cry about starting from a stop. we all know it takes much more to get a 3300 lb car rolling. People just assume that just because from a stop bikes can get so far ahead cars cant touch them. WRONG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4P1...next=1&index=6
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Originally Posted by Nastyc4
Bet he knew what he was doing at the mcdonalds drive through. maybe not on his bike.

You people are really inexperienced with 60cc bikes and misinformed. The brainwashing ability of forums is incredible

One of a million videos of stock cars beating 600cc bikes from roll ons. DOnt cry about starting from a stop. we all know it takes much more to get a 3300 lb car rolling. People just assume that just because from a stop bikes can get so far ahead cars cant touch them. WRONG.
Much harder to launch a bike then a car. MUCH harder. I can find a million videos of honda's beating LS1s too, but that doesn't mean its likely to happen outside of Internet Land.

Sorry, still calling shitty overweight rider on an old bone stock 600. That's the only excuse really. There is a pretty small number of cars that will pull a properly ridden 600 from a roll, unless you start your roll races at 120mph .

I'd be happy to demonstrate the outcome if someone wants to try to pull a properly ridden, mild bolt-on 600 from a highway roll with a stock car. I prefer digs or slow rolls though .
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
BS. You might have beat HIM, but not he bike or its hp to weight with him on it. Even if he was 300lbs, his hp to weight ratio is around 8 to 1. Your cars hp to weight ratio is around 12 to 1. You would need 450rwhp to pull him like you did IMO.

btw I'm 340lbs. want to run my bike? I'll give you 20 cars and the hit, 0-150.
Im 215lbs and 6'2 Ill run you on my modded 07 R1


OP Fix the title, it says R1 then in your story you say R6. Im sorry to say a newer R1 would have rapped you.


And now I want my cookie

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07 r1 not a chance most anything will run with you even from a faster roll. If anything a faster roll will help you from wheelie'ing lol. I fixed the title sorry for that. The only litrebike I ever beat was in my vette and was my neighbors 00 r1. from a 80 mph roll we were neck and neck till about 135 when I pulled a car or two on him.

Everyone prefers a dig or a slow roll because bikes are light. My roll races start at 70mph + sorry Best video i ever saw was an Enzo ferrari pulling down a 04 gixxer 1k. absolutely walked him down above 140 mph. Sick video till it was pulled off youtube and the owner charged lol.
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Originally Posted by Nastyc4
07 r1 not a chance most anything will run with you even from a faster roll. If anything a faster roll will help you from wheelie'ing lol. I fixed the title sorry for that. The only litrebike I ever beat was in my vette and was my neighbors 00 r1. from a 80 mph roll we were neck and neck till about 135 when I pulled a car or two on him.

Everyone prefers a dig or a slow roll because bikes are light. My roll races start at 70mph + sorry Best video i ever saw was an Enzo ferrari pulling down a 04 gixxer 1k. absolutely walked him down above 140 mph. Sick video till it was pulled off youtube and the owner charged lol.
And 90% of people who own bikes don't know how to ride. Trust me when I say, my R1 is not lightly modded, and is not an everyday street bike with just a slip on. Not saying Id win or lose, just saying it might surprise you.
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Originally Posted by Nastyc4
Bet he knew what he was doing at the mcdonalds drive through. maybe not on his bike.

You people are really inexperienced with 60cc bikes and misinformed. The brainwashing ability of forums is incredible

One of a million videos of stock cars beating 600cc bikes from roll ons. DOnt cry about starting from a stop. we all know it takes much more to get a 3300 lb car rolling. People just assume that just because from a stop bikes can get so far ahead cars cant touch them. WRONG.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ML4P1...next=1&index=6

You are a retard. Did you read the description in that video? That z06 makes 500+whp. Its probably stroked to bigger cubes plus heads/cam/intake, etc. Plus it has better gearing, better aerodynamics and is lighter than a Camaro. THAT video is believable. They started at 80ish miles a hour, which is a copout race so that a car can have a chance against the bike. Everyone knows bikes tend to lose their advantage above 100ish miles a hour because aerodynamics come into play, but they still pull HARD for cars to hang with. Then in that video, he only pulled a carlength and damn near buried his tach. You are nowhere near as fast as that Z06 in the video.

I have owned 7 bikes in my life and have ridden at the track and 1/4 miles weekly. I can ride very well for the average street rider. Any bike you ever raced and beat probably started in 4th on the highway. If youre going to post vids for proof, at least know what youre talking about regarding your "evidence."
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