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Old 10-17-2010, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep
dead even with a 3v, i don't think so.

my stock 2v would run even with my buddies 6spd lt1 every time. from a higher roll he may have gotten half a car and from a lower roll i would get about half a car.
Yea but your buddy's LT1 hasn't had a tune up. If he did a tune up he would be running with stock 03 Cobras. You can forget about it if he installs some headers, cut out, and a thermostat!
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
Yea but your buddy's LT1 hasn't had a tune up. If he did a tune up he would be running with stock 03 Cobras. You can forget about it if he installs some headers, cut out, and a thermostat!
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Originally Posted by Redfire 03
'96/97 SS's run mid to high 13's at 103-105 BONE-STOCK. My dad's silver '97 wen't 12's with just LT's, tune and drag radials, nothing else...stock 2OTL exhaust, full interior with all the options.


MotorWeek, '96 LT1 SS. Crappy 14.0 @ 104mph at 1:34. FWIW Car and Driver went 13.5 @ 106 in their tester, GMHTP 13.x @ 106. Muscle Car Review holds the LT1 record at 13.3 @ 107 in a '96 SS.
Yeah the '96/'97 LT1 SS ran very well, but that's like 1% of the LT1 F-bodies you're gonna see on the road. So when you're coming up on a stock/mild bolt-on LT1 on the street, chances are good it's gonna be mid 13s or slower.
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So what was the difference in the SS model on an LT1? Just ram air induction? I know the hawks were rated like 315 HP or so. I'm assuming thats what an SS is as well. Man I am an LT1 NOOB.
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
So what was the difference in the SS model on an LT1? Just ram air induction? I know the hawks were rated like 315 HP or so. I'm assuming thats what an SS is as well. Man I am an LT1 NOOB.
Yup pretty much, they had the SLP Ram air and different rims, that's about it.

btw at the next meet I'm gonna see if I can get that video of us racing. The guy had a HD camera and everything. It's a shame we were on a long bend, I hope my kill got caught on camera.
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FWIW, when I had my LT1 (95 z28) BONE STOCK I raced a 2008 GT BONE STOCK.

We were both manual and raced from a dig, he jumped a car on me out of the hole and held the car the entire time to about ~100.

As far as stock, LT1 and 3v are dead even; drivers race.
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Originally Posted by 1998flamedCamaro
FWIW, when I had my LT1 (95 z28) BONE STOCK I raced a 2008 GT BONE STOCK.

We were both manual and raced from a dig, he jumped a car on me out of the hole and held the car the entire time to about ~100.
Interesting. We were both Auto but my bud manually shifted mine, I dunno if he did it too. Both cars had two people in them.

I raced a manual stock 4th gen GT before, I smoked that guy. There was another GT that pulled on me crazy but he was obviously heavily modded; he came in doing a massive burnout just to prep his DRs. He put a car length on me with each shift.

Civics and Mustangs. You never know what you're in for with them. You either embarrass them so badly that you feel sorry for them or they go straight past you so fast that by the end of the race your jaw is resting on the floor mats.
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Originally Posted by AmirGTR
"smoked" is a slang term we use here in California (maybe a popular term in other regions too but I'm not sure where). It means winning a race by a large margin.


That is too funy
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Originally Posted by NightmareTA
So what was the difference in the SS model on an LT1? Just ram air induction? I know the hawks were rated like 315 HP or so. I'm assuming thats what an SS is as well. Man I am an LT1 NOOB.
It's just another LT1. A stock 315hp LT1 is as big of a joke as saying my f-body LS1 only making 305hp (crank) because its not an SS (325) or Corvette (350).
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Originally Posted by WSsick
It's just another LT1. A stock 315hp LT1 is as big of a joke as saying my f-body LS1 only making 305hp (crank) because its not an SS (325) or Corvette (350).
You do know the LT1 Firehawk did 0-60 in 4.9 seconds and ran the 1/4 in 13.5 seconds right? newb's

1993 Firehawk 0-60 & 1/4 Mile, 2:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzKks4Jo-0
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
You do know the LT1 Firehawk did 0-60 in 4.9 seconds and ran the 1/4 in 13.5 seconds right? newb's

1993 Firehawk 0-60 & 1/4 Mile, 2:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzKks4Jo-0
Mid 13's was smokin' for 1993. lol
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About the same as an LT1 Corvette... buddy of mine in HS had a stock '95 A4 and ran a 13.6@99mph.
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For comparison purposes, my 97 WS6 ran 13.024@103.33 MPH in 3000DA

Mods were YANK SS3600 Stall, $280 shipped Ebay stainless steel headers & y-pipe, Motive 3.73's, SLP Loudmouth 2 exhaust, very very used Mickey Thompson ET Street Radials cutting 1.74 60's, CE Rear Drag shocks on street setting, UMI Torque Arm on street setting, and in DESPERATE need of a tune. The gas smell burns your eyes at times

However, 3V GT's SHOULD be a good match depending on the driver and they sound damn good with a good exhaust system
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Originally Posted by 2v-in-12's


That is too funy
Dude, **** you.
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3v owners are always in denial that an LT1 is a drivers race, it's pretty funny actually. Do the 05+ mustangs come with traction control? Maybe that's why

FWIW the formulas were always the faster car, same as the LS1 cars due to the weight/options.
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Originally Posted by LT/LS Guy
You do know the LT1 Firehawk did 0-60 in 4.9 seconds and ran the 1/4 in 13.5 seconds right? newb's

1993 Firehawk 0-60 & 1/4 Mile, 2:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMzKks4Jo-0
I'm sorry, it's just a ram air Formula with a half assed catback. They can claim what they want, but it won't make me believe it. I'm sure with those "mods" it would run right next to any stock LS1, right?
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Originally Posted by WSsick
I'm sorry, it's just a ram air Formula with a half assed catback. They can claim what they want, but it won't make me believe it. I'm sure with those "mods" it would run right next to any stock LS1, right?
Just because a magazine runs it doesn't mean the average driver will run it. He just posted that up as proof that a stock LT1 car COULD run that well

Just like LS1's COULD run high 12's from the factory and COULD run mid 12's with DR's
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Originally Posted by marc97taws6
Just because a magazine runs it doesn't mean the average driver will run it. He just posted that up as proof that a stock LT1 car COULD run that well

Just like LS1's COULD run high 12's from the factory and COULD run mid 12's with DR's
That is basically what I was trying to say, though in a more brash way. I don't doubt that the LT1 could pull that off, but 315hp is a joke. It would run just like a 96/97 WS6/SS would against an LS1.
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Originally Posted by chavez885
3v owners are always in denial that an LT1 is a drivers race, it's pretty funny actually. Do the 05+ mustangs come with traction control? Maybe that's why

FWIW the formulas were always the faster car, same as the LS1 cars due to the weight/options.
They probably do come with TC, as does my car. But heard him spin in first and second, so I doubt it was on or interrupting it that much.
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Funny how a bunch of LT1s have documented magazine runs in the mid-high 13s stock, and I posted 12 different cars that ran mid to low 12s with bolt-ons...yet everyone still dismisses it and claims they can only run 13s with full bolt-ons and cant hang with a 3v .

Its a drivers race every time. They are dead even stock for stock.


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