Raced a new 5.0
01-08-2011, 03:37 PM
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Here's a name just to humor you: Mystic Z-28. (Where is he now?
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01-08-2011, 03:41 PM
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But unlike some people I don't give a flying hell if a stock LS1 has ran 12.5. If they have, COOL! Don't see what the big deal is...I go for bigger fish out there. Just my .03
(now waits for haterz to pick apart my post and take it off into left field...)
01-08-2011, 03:42 PM
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I know im a get flamed but im say it. Local here in a 2v ran a 14.6 with drag radials, FULL boltons. But thats at a crappy track thats usually at 6000DA, where my old lightning ran a 14.4, so if stock lightnings at a lower DA actually run 13.5's-13.9's, then a 2v with full boltons might run 13.7-14.1. Just saying, i know its kinda bench racing, but its somewhat explanatory.
01-08-2011, 03:49 PM
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I know im a get flamed but im say it. Local here in a 2v ran a 14.6 with drag radials, FULL boltons. But thats at a crappy track thats usually at 6000DA, where my old lightning ran a 14.4, so if stock lightnings at a lower DA actually run 13.5's-13.9's, then a 2v with full boltons might run 13.7-14.1. Just saying, i know its kinda bench racing, but its somewhat explanatory.
Anything can run slow, and that 14.6 is very believable. My friend ran 13.6 @ 104 in his stock 99 Z28 (auto, 2.73s) and he added lid, headers ,and ORY dumped wearing DRs and ran 13.6 @ 106 with a better DA. **** happens.
01-08-2011, 03:57 PM
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While I 6000DA is huge, FI cars aren't effected nearly as much by a bad DA as N/A cars are (meaning your lightning might was just been a turd).
Anything can run slow, and that 14.6 is very believable. My friend ran 13.6 @ 104 in his stock 99 Z28 (auto, 2.73s) and he added lid, headers ,and ORY dumped wearing DRs and ran 13.6 @ 106 with a better DA. **** happens.
Anything can run slow, and that 14.6 is very believable. My friend ran 13.6 @ 104 in his stock 99 Z28 (auto, 2.73s) and he added lid, headers ,and ORY dumped wearing DRs and ran 13.6 @ 106 with a better DA. **** happens.
I once ran a SN95 cobra from a dig in my truck and i um... didnt lose.
So my truck wasnt no factory dog (neither am i saying that it was a factory freak).
01-08-2011, 04:03 PM
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My L was a turd, i mean any car at 6000DA will be, only mod was a K&N drop in and some chokemasters. DA plays a big role.
I once ran a SN95 cobra from a dig in my truck and i um... didnt lose. So my truck wasnt no factory dog (neither am i saying that it was a factory freak).
I once ran a SN95 cobra from a dig in my truck and i um... didnt lose.
So my truck wasnt no factory dog (neither am i saying that it was a factory freak).
01-08-2011, 05:32 PM
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I've had a few of the cars mentioned in the thread.
I raced them all at the same track, obviously in different conditions since they were years apart. All were manual trans cars. The best ET's for each in stock form as as follows:
N/A 1996 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 14.5 @ 95 mph
N/A 1999 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 13.9 @ 100 mph
2001 Cobra Convertible - 13.5 @ 101 mph
1999 Corvette Convertible - 13.4 @ 104 mph
-Rick
I raced them all at the same track, obviously in different conditions since they were years apart. All were manual trans cars. The best ET's for each in stock form as as follows:
N/A 1996 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 14.5 @ 95 mph
N/A 1999 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 13.9 @ 100 mph
2001 Cobra Convertible - 13.5 @ 101 mph
1999 Corvette Convertible - 13.4 @ 104 mph
-Rick
01-08-2011, 05:32 PM
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Dunno how I missed this earlier, but damn marc you are making your move early. I know we both love C6 (Z)s, so you are one lucky bastard to be moving this soon. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't be disappointed about getting "just" a C6 instead of a C6Z. LS2s are cheap, and LS3s are dipping into the 20s now. Some seriously good deals out there on C6s. My tip: look in areas where they are abundant (aka be willing to travel) since they will be cheaper there. My car would have cost me a good 2-4k more had I bought here in town, and it's just a plain jane Z28! 
I figure if I sell now, I can just save for a few years and get my real dream, be it a used Ls2/ls3 z51, c6z, or 2010 GS. I am more than willing to travel, so no worries. We will see what happens in a couple of years
Grr, more people comparing magazine times
01-08-2011, 05:34 PM
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I've had a few of the cars mentioned in the thread.
I raced them all at the same track, obviously in different conditions since they were years apart. All were manual trans cars. The best ET's for each in stock form as as follows:
N/A 1996 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 14.5 @ 95 mph
N/A 1999 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 13.9 @ 100 mph
2001 Cobra Convertible - 13.5 @ 101 mph
1999 Corvette Convertible - 13.4 @ 104 mph
-Rick
I raced them all at the same track, obviously in different conditions since they were years apart. All were manual trans cars. The best ET's for each in stock form as as follows:
N/A 1996 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 14.5 @ 95 mph
N/A 1999 Saleen Speedster (basically Mustang GT with Saleen body kit, wheels, etc.) - 13.9 @ 100 mph
2001 Cobra Convertible - 13.5 @ 101 mph
1999 Corvette Convertible - 13.4 @ 104 mph
-Rick
01-08-2011, 05:38 PM
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Thanks!
I drive everything like I stole it
(Also broke a trans in every Mustang I owned, the GM transmisions are much better 
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As funny as it sounds, my Cobalt SS T/C went 13.9/14.0 stock and consistent 13.0's and a 12.99 with just a Livernois tune only.
-Rick
I drive everything like I stole it
(Also broke a trans in every Mustang I owned, the GM transmisions are much better )As funny as it sounds, my Cobalt SS T/C went 13.9/14.0 stock and consistent 13.0's and a 12.99 with just a Livernois tune only.
-Rick
01-08-2011, 05:49 PM
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01-08-2011, 06:08 PM
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Thanks!
I drive everything like I stole it (Also broke a trans in every Mustang I owned, the GM transmisions are much better )
As funny as it sounds, my Cobalt SS T/C went 13.9/14.0 stock and consistent 13.0's and a 12.99 with just a Livernois tune only.
-Rick
I drive everything like I stole it
(Also broke a trans in every Mustang I owned, the GM transmisions are much better )As funny as it sounds, my Cobalt SS T/C went 13.9/14.0 stock and consistent 13.0's and a 12.99 with just a Livernois tune only.
-Rick
01-08-2011, 06:29 PM
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Yes, but that applies much more to turbocharged vehicles, where the wastegate controls the amount of the boost to a set amount of boost, always. Its different on supercharged vehicles where the rotors always spin a set RPM at a certain engine RPM. On a supercharged car at 10000DA the boost might hit 6psi, but at sea level it might be 12psi, all with the same pulley setup, on a turbo setup if the wastegate is setup for 12 psi the boost will be 12psi at 10000DA and sea level.
01-08-2011, 06:40 PM
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Here's the graph
Yes, but that applies much more to turbocharged vehicles, where the wastegate controls the amount of the boost to a set amount of boost, always. Its different on supercharged vehicles where the rotors always spin a set RPM at a certain engine RPM. On a supercharged car at 10000DA the boost might hit 6psi, but at sea level it might be 12psi, all with the same pulley setup, on a turbo setup if the wastegate is setup for 12 psi the boost will be 12psi at 10000DA and sea level.
Our 2011 Mustang GT with it's current N/A combo went 11.19 in MI and 11.15 at E-Town 2 days later. After some suspension tweaks, it went 10.82 at NED a few weeks later.
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01-08-2011, 06:45 PM
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True. We had a 2005 Mustang shop car that was stock with a Magnacharger MP112. It went 12.7 at our home track in MI. At E-Town it went 12.2 with no changes.
Our 2011 Mustang GT with it's current N/A combo went 11.19 in MI and 11.15 at E-Town 2 days later. After some suspension tweaks, it went 10.82 at NED a few weeks later.
-Rick
Our 2011 Mustang GT with it's current N/A combo went 11.19 in MI and 11.15 at E-Town 2 days later. After some suspension tweaks, it went 10.82 at NED a few weeks later.
-Rick
On a side note, i bet thats a fun DD, especially with all that torque. What kind of MPG you see with it?
01-08-2011, 06:52 PM
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Yeah my local track is ALWAYS at 6000+DA, one night the temp went to 42 degrees, and the DA that day was 5300. I can drive 1 hr and cut that DA in half though. Not much record setting done around here, haha.
01-10-2011, 03:52 AM
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And 100% of your statistics come out of your ***.
Prove it (Note I didn't say MORE VIDEOS)
I've already shown a not full bolt-on GT without cams running 12.8 times or faster.
Depends what lightening you are talking about. There are different versions.
Some the 2v is faster, some they are not.
A full second faster? Stock for stock? No. But it IS faster.
I can run with a stock 2011 GT too. I'd lose just like the LS1 would most of the time, but I can run with them :p
The 2011 GT is faster than the Camaro. Plain and simple. Only someone that is a fanboy, or doesn't have their facts straight would say otherwise.
The difference between a 5th gen Camaro, and a 11 5.0 is greater than that of a Mach1 vs a LS1. You can barely get anyone in here to admit a Mach1 and a LS1 is a drivers race. Now it's being pushed off as if the 5th gen is FASTER than the 5.0?
Really?
That must be that new thing they call fuzzy logic.
There are more stock LS1 f-bodys in the 12's then there are stock 2v's in the 13's
full bolt-ons plus cams and a 2v "might" come close to running with one.
13's stock is more along the lines of a stock lightning, and you can ask anyone on svtperformance (including myself) which is faster.
Some the 2v is faster, some they are not.
I think there are a couple of post directed at me, but im not gonna answer ALL of them, gonna stay on topic. Stock for stock, a LS1 is a full second faster
and any LS1 will run with any stock 2011 GT.
As for 2010 camaro vs 2011 GT, only one magazine has gotten a faster time with the GT, from a roll the camaro is the victor, maybe not from a dig, as the IRS, and the extra weight do not help out.
The difference between a 5th gen Camaro, and a 11 5.0 is greater than that of a Mach1 vs a LS1. You can barely get anyone in here to admit a Mach1 and a LS1 is a drivers race. Now it's being pushed off as if the 5th gen is FASTER than the 5.0?
Really?
That must be that new thing they call fuzzy logic.
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