Raced a new 5.0
#101
Good run OP. Sounds about right, I lost by 2-3 to a stock 5.0 in my bolt on formula which was on the light side (3620 with me and gas). Definitely a car that will challenge a lot of the f-body guys to up the game a little.
#102
To the LS1 guys, I don't see what the fuss is about???
Do you guys see the numbers the new EPS lobes are putting out Cam-only? 243 heads can be had for dirt cheap too nowadays ya know. That + supporting mods will turn a bolt-on LS1 into a low 11-second car easy. That's the good thing about the old LS1, the aftermarket is super-cheap and readily available. Just saw a guy roll through the dyno with a stock-bottom 346, EPS 22x and some home-ported 243's lay down 46xrwhp. Just spend a little dough and you can stay in the game no prob.
On the flipside those 2011 GT's are some sweet lookin' rides.
- Demon
Do you guys see the numbers the new EPS lobes are putting out Cam-only? 243 heads can be had for dirt cheap too nowadays ya know. That + supporting mods will turn a bolt-on LS1 into a low 11-second car easy. That's the good thing about the old LS1, the aftermarket is super-cheap and readily available. Just saw a guy roll through the dyno with a stock-bottom 346, EPS 22x and some home-ported 243's lay down 46xrwhp. Just spend a little dough and you can stay in the game no prob.
On the flipside those 2011 GT's are some sweet lookin' rides.
- Demon
#105
#106
those are the "C-Heads" im not sure what kind of power will be had with those on a 5xxci engine but i imagine somewhere areound 1000hp n/a. even his $4100 hemi heads are good for about 850+hp on a street big block and those themselves are some serious heads. More "realistic" heads would be the $2500 P-51 which should put out a solid 750-800hp n/a out of the box on a 514-557stroker
Last edited by MauriSSio; 01-06-2011 at 10:03 AM.
#107
To the LS1 guys, I don't see what the fuss is about???
Do you guys see the numbers the new EPS lobes are putting out Cam-only? 243 heads can be had for dirt cheap too nowadays ya know. That + supporting mods will turn a bolt-on LS1 into a low 11-second car easy. That's the good thing about the old LS1, the aftermarket is super-cheap and readily available. Just saw a guy roll through the dyno with a stock-bottom 346, EPS 22x and some home-ported 243's lay down 46xrwhp. Just spend a little dough and you can stay in the game no prob.
On the flipside those 2011 GT's are some sweet lookin' rides.
- Demon
Do you guys see the numbers the new EPS lobes are putting out Cam-only? 243 heads can be had for dirt cheap too nowadays ya know. That + supporting mods will turn a bolt-on LS1 into a low 11-second car easy. That's the good thing about the old LS1, the aftermarket is super-cheap and readily available. Just saw a guy roll through the dyno with a stock-bottom 346, EPS 22x and some home-ported 243's lay down 46xrwhp. Just spend a little dough and you can stay in the game no prob.
On the flipside those 2011 GT's are some sweet lookin' rides.
- Demon
This car did 430/415 with stock (untouched) 243's through a stalled A4. My car is an M6 and the heads will be ported.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...results-3.html
#108
That means it had a hell of a launch (1.5 60'). Bolton mustangs are already running that trap speed or faster. With the mustangs gearing, i wouldnt say low 11's will be out of reach for long with just boltons. its only a monster launch away.
Last edited by MauriSSio; 01-06-2011 at 10:26 AM.
#109
that was on an LS6 long block (not all ls1's came with the ls6 stuff if i remember correctly) and look at the MPH. 117.9mph. That means it had a hell of a launch (1.5 60'). Bolton mustangs are already running that trap speed or faster. With the mustangs gearing, i wouldnt say low 11's will be out of reach for long with just boltons. its only a monster launch away.
#111
Maybe you should go to bed earlier so that wont happen ;-)
This is just common sense. I see a lot of hopeful posts on here. Like I said, when the LS1 first came out the Mustang boards were doing the same. THey WAAY underrated it. And said it was hyped too much. It's been over 10 years now, and it lived up to the hype. So will the 5.0. There will always be those in denial. There will always be those drinking the Hateraid®.
This is just common sense. I see a lot of hopeful posts on here. Like I said, when the LS1 first came out the Mustang boards were doing the same. THey WAAY underrated it. And said it was hyped too much. It's been over 10 years now, and it lived up to the hype. So will the 5.0. There will always be those in denial. There will always be those drinking the Hateraid®.
#112
Some 01/02s got the LS6 block (nothing for hp), and all 01/02s got the LS6 intake. Other than that, nothing from the LS6 went on an LS1.
Only difference in an LS1 & LS6 is heads and cam, and for certain years the intake.
#113
Maybe you should go to bed earlier so that wont happen ;-)
This is just common sense. I see a lot of hopeful posts on here. Like I said, when the LS1 first came out the Mustang boards were doing the same. THey WAAY underrated it. And said it was hyped too much. It's been over 10 years now, and it lived up to the hype. So will the 5.0. There will always be those in denial. There will always be those drinking the Hateraid®.
This is just common sense. I see a lot of hopeful posts on here. Like I said, when the LS1 first came out the Mustang boards were doing the same. THey WAAY underrated it. And said it was hyped too much. It's been over 10 years now, and it lived up to the hype. So will the 5.0. There will always be those in denial. There will always be those drinking the Hateraid®.
anyways heres a bolton automatic mustang. apparently theyve hit 11.4@119 with it which is .11 away from the cammed LS6 quoted above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STmlGMANS0Q
#114
There have been rumors of fbodies coming with 243 heads, but I have not see one personally.
But a ls6 block doesnt do **** performance wise, plus if you have an 01+ fbody you have the ls6 intake and a good chance of an ls6 block. But basically the z06 is a cammed ls1 with lighter valves.
#115
also, ive read that the LS6 block allows better bay to bay breathing at higher rpms....Thats gotta be worth SOMETHING
#117
An LS6 block is NOT the same as an LS1 block. There are differences in the block design that separate them. They are similar enough that there will be no difference in power output, however the LS6 block has better bay to bay breathing so it is possible to see a few hp difference at high rpm.
#118
anyways heres a bolton automatic mustang. apparently theyve hit 11.4@119 with it which is .11 away from the cammed LS6 quoted above.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STmlGMANS0Q
My original statement stands.
#120
Are they similar enough that there will be no difference in power, or is it possible to see HP differences in higher RPMs? Not trying to bust your *****, but you kinda contradicted yourself there.