cam only vs cams only
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not at the wheels....
basically what you just said is the 5.0 will need to be "cam-only" to make the same power as cam-only LS3 when earlier you said they wouldnt be able to hang with cams......
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The SS is spinning heavy as hell 20's with heavy as hell 14/14.4" rotors. I have a feeling if there was an 18" wheel option with v6 brakes, the SS and 5.0 would be dead even.
I dont know why they released a car with 20's with a drug dealer 21" upgrade option. What happened to back in the day that you could order a car how you want it?
I dont know why they released a car with 20's with a drug dealer 21" upgrade option. What happened to back in the day that you could order a car how you want it?
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Weight is the only reason the 5.0 is faster, not the motor. Dont get me wrong, its still a good car, but its not the second coming of Christ like you guys want to believe. Its the same car thats been out since what 2005, they have had time to get the platform right. They finally put a decent motor in it and of course the results will be good.
Look at the challenger srt8, it has a great motor, but again the car is heavy. Its not Fords fault that its competion is some 300-400 lbs heavier, but I think its still remarkable that its a drivers race.
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Neither is how much faster a 5.0 is stock for stock. People are acting like the 5.0 is a god send when in reality it just puts the mustang back on the table with "decent" cars.
Weight is the only reason the 5.0 is faster, not the motor. Dont get me wrong, its still a good car, but its not the second coming of Christ like you guys want to believe. Its the same car thats been out since what 2005, they have had time to get the platform right. They finally put a decent motor in it and of course the results will be good.
Look at the challenger srt8, it has a great motor, but again the car is heavy. Its not Fords fault that its competion is some 300-400 lbs heavier, but I think its still remarkable that its a drivers race.
Whats wrong with my sig?
Weight is the only reason the 5.0 is faster, not the motor. Dont get me wrong, its still a good car, but its not the second coming of Christ like you guys want to believe. Its the same car thats been out since what 2005, they have had time to get the platform right. They finally put a decent motor in it and of course the results will be good.
Look at the challenger srt8, it has a great motor, but again the car is heavy. Its not Fords fault that its competion is some 300-400 lbs heavier, but I think its still remarkable that its a drivers race.
Whats wrong with my sig?
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I'm well aware of the reasons why the '11 GT is competitive with/faster than its competition. But I don't get why you think that it is "remarkable" that it's basically a driver's race between it and the Camaro SS (manual). And your signature is funny because you're obviously fishing for attention (which I'm obviously giving to you), boasting about your high 14s CTS beating every Mustang GT from 1980-2010. That is, assuming it's the DI V6. If not, then it's quite a bit slower than high 14s.
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Auto 5.0 vs. L99 Camaro should be a win for the 5.0 everytime, but it's close enough I suppose. You should probably change your signature to say "slow, but still fast enough to beat any Mustang GT from 1980-1986." I feel that would be more accurate . Unless of course you don't really have a CTS V6, and you're just trolling.
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Auto 5.0 vs. L99 Camaro should be a win for the 5.0 everytime, but it's close enough I suppose. You should probably change your signature to say "slow, but still fast enough to beat any Mustang GT from 1980-1986." I feel that would be more accurate . Unless of course you don't really have a CTS V6, and you're just trolling.
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And if your times are anything to base assumptions off of, I think an automatic 5.0 would have you handled pretty well mod-for-mod. 12.45 @ 110mph with intake/headers/stall/tune isn't exactly anything to write home about, and that seems to be a pretty typical time for an L99 car.
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And if your times are anything to base assumptions off of, I think an automatic 5.0 would have you handled pretty well. 12.45 @ 110mph with intake/headers/stall/tune isn't exactly anything to write home about, and that seems to be a pretty typical time for an L99 car.
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No, but there are several people (real life owners, not "shop cars") that have already hit 11s in their 5.0s with half the mods you have. So I'll stand by my claim that the 5.0 should win stock vs. stock, and mod-for-mod.
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Should being the key word. Its not like its a viper vs a yugo. If you had chuck norris driving both cars doing the same thing every time, the mustang should win....by what .2-.3. If you have 2 guys racing thats nothing when you throw in the non-chuck norris factor.
Again I raced a supercharged mach 1 and I was consistantly beating him by .1-.2 running 12.3 over and over and over on 20s with nittos. 1 time he ran a 12.2 and I still beat him with my 12.3.
Everyone knows the 5.0 componets are more effiecent than what we get on the camaro side...ie intake,exhaust. Theres no suprise there. If you mod a camaro down to 18" wheels with v6 brakes I say its a dead even car with the mustang. Its not Fords fault GM went that route, but again weight is the only mustang advantage.
Again I raced a supercharged mach 1 and I was consistantly beating him by .1-.2 running 12.3 over and over and over on 20s with nittos. 1 time he ran a 12.2 and I still beat him with my 12.3.
Everyone knows the 5.0 componets are more effiecent than what we get on the camaro side...ie intake,exhaust. Theres no suprise there. If you mod a camaro down to 18" wheels with v6 brakes I say its a dead even car with the mustang. Its not Fords fault GM went that route, but again weight is the only mustang advantage.
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I'd put money on a 5.0 with your mods running mid 11s. There are intake/tune cars running what you're running right now. And yes, the potential for running into a not-so-great driver is always there, but I'd rather assume everybody is Mario Andretti.
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Should being the key word. Its not like its a viper vs a yugo. If you had chuck norris driving both cars doing the same thing every time, the mustang should win....by what .2-.3. If you have 2 guys racing thats nothing when you throw in the non-chuck norris factor.
Again I raced a supercharged mach 1 and I was consistantly beating him by .1-.2 running 12.3 over and over and over on 20s with nittos. 1 time he ran a 12.2 and I still beat him with my 12.3.
Everyone knows the 5.0 componets are more effiecent than what we get on the camaro side...ie intake,exhaust. Theres no suprise there. If you mod a camaro down to 18" wheels with v6 brakes I say its a dead even car with the mustang. Its not Fords fault GM went that route, but again weight is the only mustang advantage.
Again I raced a supercharged mach 1 and I was consistantly beating him by .1-.2 running 12.3 over and over and over on 20s with nittos. 1 time he ran a 12.2 and I still beat him with my 12.3.
Everyone knows the 5.0 componets are more effiecent than what we get on the camaro side...ie intake,exhaust. Theres no suprise there. If you mod a camaro down to 18" wheels with v6 brakes I say its a dead even car with the mustang. Its not Fords fault GM went that route, but again weight is the only mustang advantage.