Should I? 94 Z28 vs 09 Si Coupe
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When did Civics become mid 14 second cars stock? Stock or close to stock LT1 guys definitely need to mod up, modded Civics are breathing down their neck, and V6 Mustangs are now faster than.![EEK !!](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_eek2.gif)
OP you should be fine. I'd just throw it in D, just in case you fucked up and forgot to shift or something and blew it.
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OP you should be fine. I'd just throw it in D, just in case you fucked up and forgot to shift or something and blew it.
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Has anyone though about the tune hurting him. Hwe said it was a economy tune. Thats probably were his 0-60 time went to **** at. I think he said it was done with the mods thats were on the car to. So if its back to stock thats would mean the tune was for the mods not a stock car right. Thats would be the problem right. Just a thought.
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The Civic Si was a low-mid 14s car as soon as it came out. It's just that most people can't drive. Hell, my 152k mile '94 Integra GS-R ran a best of 14.97 @ 93.82mph with just an axle-back exhaust. Anybody in good DA with an RSX-S or newer Civic Si that can't beat that by at least 3-4 tenths needs some more practice. To the OP; I know you said you think it is stock, but I would be careful. A Hondata tune and cold air intake drops those cars solidly in the 13s, with ~102-103mph traps speeds. Make sure to post up a vid of the results ![Thumb](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies2/thumb.gif)
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I went onto dragtimes website and found the fastest closest to stock Civic si i could find and it ran a 14.6 with a Skunk-2 catback.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic...lip-14184.html
Then i looked for the slowest 13sec Civic of the same kind and found this one that ran a 13.8 but has such mods as "powershifting" transmission and "air straighteners"??? but he has hondata and some bolt ons and he is running drag radial's. i think he has more mods but who knows...
http://www.dragtimes.com/Honda-Civic-Timeslip-6233.html
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Like I said above, I won't believe 14's until I physically see it and I sure as hell won't believe low-mid 14's until I physically see it at a track. With that being said, with the absolute mass quantity of Honda owners in Iowa I've already seen run the new Si's at the drag strip, I won't hold my breath
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I don't know about where you live but around here you will never see a newer civic si running 14's. They all run from bottom 15's to high 16's at famoso ive never seen a stock one get anywhere near 14's let alone 13's. I think you might be over estimating the cars capabilities.
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Show me where an '09 Civic gets into the 13's with just intake/tune.
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^^All this coming from actual Si owners/racers.
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And an LS1 F-body is a 12-second car in the right hands. I wouldn't call them 12-second cars though. ![Rolleyes](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/rolleyes.gif)
Show me where an '09 Civic gets into the 13's with just intake/tune.
From what I've gathered it takes above mods plus header/midpipe, cat-back, suspension, tire and a very good DA to get into the 13's with those. And im talking very high 13s like 13.8/9. Bone-Stock majority are in the high 14's/low 15s, nowhere near your claim.
^^All this coming from actual Si owners/racers.
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Show me where an '09 Civic gets into the 13's with just intake/tune.
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^^All this coming from actual Si owners/racers.
Edit: As far as "proof" goes, there aren't too many Civic/RSX owners that post up on Youtube apparently, but this '02 RSX-S is in line with what I was saying. The RSX-S is ~100lbs lighter than a Civic Si, but the motor in the Civic (K20Z1 vs. K20a2) is also a bit stronger. 13.85 @ 100.4mph with just a CAI and Hondata tune.
http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-RSX-Timeslip-2556.html
Of course times are going to vary with conditions, track location, and driver skill. But when somebody is posting up asking about potential race results, it is best to go into the race not just knowing what will *probably* happen, but what *could* happen. And he could be running against somebody that knows their car very well, and isn't stuck in the 15s. There were TONS of Integra GS-R owners with stock/near-stock cars that couldn't get below 15.5 no matter what they did, but I ran a 14.97 my very first time down the 1/4 mile with just an axle-back exhaust (please try and tell me that added power). And it's not like my car was a factory freak either; it put down 142whp and 119wtq, which is right in line with other GS-Rs. LT/LS Guy, do me a favor... ask your "actual Si owner/racer" buddies if they think their car is faster than an Integra GS-R and see what they say.
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I've searched all I'm going to. If you're running at a decent track in good DA, and you're still stuck in the 15s... you need more seat time. That'd be like running high 13s in a 6spd LS1 F-body.
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That's the problem nowadays... too much google racing. Not enough real racing. Civic Si owners are throwing a party if they run anywhere around 14.75. Any quicker is a prepped car or negative DA.