Stock WS6 vs Brand new 5.0
05-10-2011, 09:30 AM
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The only thing that Ford seemed to do right on the 4.6 4Vs are the heads. The cams and intake are **** poor options and cost a lot of money to upgrade and that's why so many people strap a blower on. Well I take that back the 96-98 Cobra cams were good but the heads sucked those years. With 96-98 Cobra cam swap on a Mach 1 you can see 320-340rwhp with just that and some exhaust/tune.
By the time you've upgraded the cams you've spent $1600+ not including labor and the only intake that seems to produce reliable numbers is the FR500. Good luck getting that for under $1500. For that you could have a supercharger kit and produce a lot more HP than the N/A option (On3 Turbo kits aren't far from that number either). So it's not that the 4.6 can't make power N/A it's just that it is so much cheaper to go another route.
By the time you've upgraded the cams you've spent $1600+ not including labor and the only intake that seems to produce reliable numbers is the FR500. Good luck getting that for under $1500. For that you could have a supercharger kit and produce a lot more HP than the N/A option (On3 Turbo kits aren't far from that number either). So it's not that the 4.6 can't make power N/A it's just that it is so much cheaper to go another route.
The Mach1 owners ended up giving up and buying Termis.
I have no reason to post I came on ls1 tech to defend myself awhile back and stayed to learn a little about the lsx so I am not so narrow-minded like yourself.
I guess this 4.6 is junk too right
I do not see a stock cubed ls3 doing that anytime soon 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uLw...layer_embedded
I guess this 4.6 is junk too right
I do not see a stock cubed ls3 doing that anytime soon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uLw...layer_embedded
05-10-2011, 09:34 AM
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) So get a hold of me the second you need a camera man or someone to be a second opinion on some turd you check out before you buy 
I am actually about to buy a whole bunch of **** on here from another member. Gotta meet him up in Joliet on Thursday though, but I should be able to make a decent amount on this stuff, especially if I find some local geniuses on CL.
Trying to make a little extra cash so I can jump on an LS3 the minute I find one. Maybe instead of making extra then buying more stuff and repeating, I'll just go to the casino. Shameless plug: If anyone needs a H/C/I setup, let me know.
-stock 799 heads with stock valves and VS--assembled
-Patriot stage 2 heads, 2.02/1.57 with Gold springs (.650" lift)--assembled
-FAST 90mm manifold, 92mm throttlebody
-torquer 2 cam
-36lb injectors
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05-10-2011, 11:30 AM
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I guess this 4.6 is junk too right I do not see a stock cubed ls3 doing that anytime soon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uLw...layer_embedded
I do not see a stock cubed ls3 doing that anytime soon http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86uLw...layer_embedded
05-10-2011, 11:57 PM
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My point is he's going to compare a pro-stock dragster with a TON of money invested in it to a street car. He's basically implying that anybody with a 4.6 can run 6-second quarter miles.
05-11-2011, 10:40 PM
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05-12-2011, 03:21 AM
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05-12-2011, 07:41 AM
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05-12-2011, 07:44 AM
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You GM guys sure as hell put alot of rules down when you compare the modular Fords.
05-12-2011, 08:55 AM
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If your'e not impressived with a tube chassis car fine. But you also have to realize that in that class Mihovitz is up against motors that are sometimes twice as big (some of them chevy motors).
Fastest non tube chassis car is Mark Luton of MMR just went 6.99@205 at 3200. 5.4 4v. Is that better?
Fastest n/a SI 4.6 is about 4 tenths off from the fastest LS1. But I'm sure with the new 5.0 that will change once that engine gets older. If my shitbox didn't have the worst 4v heads ever made for a 4.6 and if it had the mach1 heads I'm sure I'd be low 11's. But I'll continue to work with whats I gots.
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05-12-2011, 12:04 PM
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those heads LOVe 10,000 rpm and big boost. same heads bitemark is using, and i use on my little 74mm turbo 4v.
05-12-2011, 12:07 PM
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