Irunelevens

What does your "cam only fat pig gto" run?

bh353

don't know never ran at a track..only run on the street where it matters.I will say they are impressive for a off the show room floor car,but how far can you go with mods before they are not streetable?

ohioborn80

iTrader: (2)

Depends on what your definition of streetable. I know guys with 600-700whp Termi's, a 1000whp twin turboed ZO6, 680whp turbo M3, 660awd Evo IX that all drive daily. So really to me just depends on what you want to drive.

Irunelevens

Ok. And you can get 500rwhp+ from a 5.0 GT and still be plenty streetable. That's one benefit of their variable cam timing system. And even a bolt-on/tuned GT has the *potential* of being a mid-high 11s car with 116-118mph traps. So they aren't exactly pushovers.

bh353

show me a 500rwhp n/a 5.0 that is streetable and dosen't have to rev to the moon to hit 500rwhp..i don't think it can be done honestly.

Irunelevens

http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...rwhp-n-492026/
And that's on factory-regrind cams and stage 1 heads. And they have variable cam timing, so I don't know why you keep stressing this "streetable" thing?

bh353

Are you serious? It took over 7500rpms for 507rwhp..lol and look at the tourqe not impressed.Good track car,but not a good street car.

TransAmWS.6

C'mon now man, because it makes it's power up higher in the RPM's, it's not a good street car?

So, with that logic, I'm guessing you don't think that the Lamborghini's and Ferrari's with high revving Italian V8's/V10's make good street cars either right?

Irunelevens

Exactly. It's not like you start a race from idle. You start a race (roll race) from an rpm where your car is already making good power. If that is 5,000rpm, so what? And it's not like a 507rwhp feels "weak" down low when driving it normally.

bh353

ok let me clarify what i am saying....how much low end torque are you gonna lose with having to rev above 7500rpms to make peak power?peak power don't mean ****..it's all about under the curve.The track and street are to different things.

Irunelevens

You could have just edited your post. It's not like we're talking about a 1.6l turbo Civic here, a 500rwhp+ Mustang GT will be a force to be reckoned with on the street. It's not going to lose any races because it doesn't have enough torque below 3,000rpm.

bh353

you don't know what your talking about..lol lets see maybe a lambo dosen't have a huge *** cam with small displacemet..you know you need some kind of torque at low rpm's..lol

bh353

you do know as hp rises torque falls of on a n/a engine?

TransAmWS.6

No, I think YOU'RE the one who doesn't know what they're talking about. Your logic is flawed, like Irunelevens said, this is a 5.0 Mustang that makes over 500rwhp. Even though it doesn't reach it's peak power down low, it's still not going to exactly be a slouch down in that range either by any means. It has enough to get the job done in most case scenarios, I can assure you. Besides, down low power only means so much, you don't even spend THAT much time down there when racing anyways. From what I've seen at least.

bh353

lets get this straight im talking A ******* DAILY DRIVING CAR....YOU KNOW STOP AND GO TRAFFIC..you will burn the clutch out of that mustang..believe me,my car is on the edge right now and that is with a 6.0..the bigger the cam the more displacement it takes to eat up the surge and bucking of a cam.

bh353

ok lets make it simple..car A makes 500rwhp 7500 and 420trq at 5500rpms and car B makes 500rwhp at 7000rpms and 450trq at 5500rpms with weight and drivers equal who wins?

HoLLo

iTrader: (17)

Everyone unwad your panties

bh353

im done..lol some people don't even know the basics of an engine..

HioSSilver

iTrader: (8)

If it needs race gas it stops being streetable.

automach1

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