Cobalt SS vs MKIV Supra & 335i
05-30-2011, 04:40 AM
#21
Tuned 335i gets pulled on by a cobalt sedan? A stock turbo one?
LoLoLoLoL.
Sure it wasnt a 325i with badges? Jokes... that car will trap over 115mph in the quarter with only a tune.
My last car had an LNF. With a completely maxed stock turbo (25+psi & E85) in a lighter chassis (by 300 pounds) then the balt with proper RWD, it only went 112 mph in negative DA. Noo way you're pulling that car unless BMW driver was a tard, or in sixth gear, or both.
LoLoLoLoL.
Sure it wasnt a 325i with badges? Jokes... that car will trap over 115mph in the quarter with only a tune.
My last car had an LNF. With a completely maxed stock turbo (25+psi & E85) in a lighter chassis (by 300 pounds) then the balt with proper RWD, it only went 112 mph in negative DA. Noo way you're pulling that car unless BMW driver was a tard, or in sixth gear, or both.
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05-30-2011, 12:46 PM
#23
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Tuned 335i gets pulled on by a cobalt sedan? A stock turbo one?
LoLoLoLoL.
Sure it wasnt a 325i with badges? Jokes... that car will trap over 115mph in the quarter with only a tune.
My last car had an LNF. With a completely maxed stock turbo (25+psi & E85) in a lighter chassis (by 300 pounds) then the balt with proper RWD, it only went 112 mph in negative DA. Noo way you're pulling that car unless BMW driver was a tard, or in sixth gear, or both.
LoLoLoLoL.
Sure it wasnt a 325i with badges? Jokes... that car will trap over 115mph in the quarter with only a tune.
My last car had an LNF. With a completely maxed stock turbo (25+psi & E85) in a lighter chassis (by 300 pounds) then the balt with proper RWD, it only went 112 mph in negative DA. Noo way you're pulling that car unless BMW driver was a tard, or in sixth gear, or both.
Sorry, they all don't just magically go 115 in the 1/4 with only a tune. That's like saying all F-bodies run 12's stock, C6Z's run 10's stock/trap 127+, etc..
I was waiting for one of these types of posts. Sounds like you just don't know what you're talking about because there is absolutely NO REASON to ever run more than 24psi on the stock turbo and even then, it's still just outside of its efficiency range. So, that's BS #1
Funny that you say it was maxed on E85, well guess what? You're full of **** because the mechanical HPFP cannot keep up with the fuel demands on full e85 with a tune on "Kill" with "25+ psi". BS #2
No, your Solstice/Sky is not 300lbs lighter than my Sedan either, thanks for trying. Try 40lbs. BS #3
Here's proof that my car is more than capable. Acquaintance of mine that lives in the southern part of my state. Run's a 09 SS Sedan just like mine and here's what he just posted, with DA/Elevation that's through the roof, not like your "NEGATIVE DA":
RT: .553
60': 2.200
330: 5.708
1/8: 8.527
MPH: 87.79
1000: 10.921
1/4: 12.945
MPH: 112.02
CALCULATED DA: +5410 Ft
Actual Track Elevation: 3075 Ft above sea level
Mods are:
AB Mod (modified air box)
E85 Tune
The only difference between our cars is the tuner and his modified air box vs my tuning/stock air box. So, up here closer to sea level, there's no reason my car can't trap 112+ mph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73EVa43XIl4
05-30-2011, 12:53 PM
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Stock turbo huh? E85? Back in 2008? When there wasn't any additional tuning support for fueling? More bullshit. I love it.
05-30-2011, 05:02 PM
#27
There WAS fuel support, maybe not for the slowbalts, but there certainly was for the sky. Ended up getting 465whp out of the upgraded turbo @ 30psi. We had boost/map issues but no issues with fuel
Been there, done that, your car is slow, and you won't pull a proper 335i. Period.
Balt sedan @ 2970 pounds empty. Sky @ 2700 pounds empty. Yeaaaah...
Tune only car runs 119 mph http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-20627.html
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05-30-2011, 06:00 PM
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What's a "proper 335i"? Full on race map/tune with race gas and full bolt ons? Of course I wouldn't pull on one of those cars in my current configuration but there's no telling when I decide to actually modify my mechanically STOCK car.
2700lbs? Unless you had some serious weight reduction, again you're talking out of your ***. I was actually wrong, your old Sky weighs more than my Sedan by about 30-70lbs, depending on the source. Here's a few sources for you and everyone else to see:
This one shows 3036 for the manual
http://autos.yahoo.com/saturn/sky/20...fications.html
C/D shows 3071
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...atic_29_page_9
This is the only source that shows under (barely) 3k lbs curb weight, 2990, which would only be 11lbs less than my Sedan:
http://www.saturnskyredline.net/Satu...ine-specs.html
GM's own curb weight estimate is 3-3050lbs depending on options. My car has a curb weight of 3001lbs.
Tune only car runs 119 mph http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-20627.html
ALL "proper" C6 Z06s run 10s and trap over 127, on average:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/05/1...-on-run-flats/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zv5R...eature=related
05-30-2011, 06:13 PM
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Tune only car runs 119 mph http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-20627.html
Here's a better "tune only" indicator;
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-17270.html
This one has a mixture of race gas and 93, intake and tune:
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-18548.html
This one even has a tune, catback and intake:
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-14211.html
There's plenty more too but the first few pages of the "335i Fast list" has nothing but bolt on, tune, smaller & lighter rim/tire combos, race gas/mixes/meth.
I know just how quick/fast the N54/N55 platforms can be but to say they are unbeatable, "tune only" by a car that is just as easy to mod and is much lighter (aside from the 135i), is ignorant. Anything can happen on the street and not every single car is going to perform like what you see posted on the internet. Some are faster, some are on par and some are just plain dog **** slow. There is no gospel.
Continue posting in my thread all you want but in my eyes, you're just a liar with a chip on your shoulder and a hard-on for the 335i, apparently. You will not receive another response from me.
05-30-2011, 07:41 PM
#30
So... where's the mention of E85 then? Pull that one out of your *** much?
If there was fuel support back in that time, why was every other LNF owner struggling with getting enough fuel via the rail/injection window, including BTF. I know you know who he is. So let me get this straight, you had no problem with fueling but had boost/map issues? If you had full tuning capabilities, you wouldn't have had any issues. Not even Wester himself at that time had access to the fuel tables/injection tables. Sorry, pants down caught in your own lies.
Been where and done what? Lies only get you so far man...
What's a "proper 335i"? Full on race map/tune with race gas and full bolt ons? Of course I wouldn't pull on one of those cars in my current configuration but there's no telling when I decide to actually modify my mechanically STOCK car.
2700lbs? Unless you had some serious weight reduction, again you're talking out of your ***. I was actually wrong, your old Sky weighs more than my Sedan by about 30-70lbs, depending on the source. Here's a few sources for you and everyone else to see:
This one shows 3036 for the manual
http://autos.yahoo.com/saturn/sky/20...fications.html
C/D shows 3071
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...atic_29_page_9
This is the only source that shows under (barely) 3k lbs curb weight, 2990, which would only be 11lbs less than my Sedan:
http://www.saturnskyredline.net/Satu...ine-specs.html
GM's own curb weight estimate is 3-3050lbs depending on options. My car has a curb weight of 3001lbs.
Oh yeah? Well using that logic, all F-bodies, bone stock run 12's:
ALL "proper" C6 Z06s run 10s and trap over 127, on average:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/05/1...-on-run-flats/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zv5R...eature=related
If there was fuel support back in that time, why was every other LNF owner struggling with getting enough fuel via the rail/injection window, including BTF. I know you know who he is. So let me get this straight, you had no problem with fueling but had boost/map issues? If you had full tuning capabilities, you wouldn't have had any issues. Not even Wester himself at that time had access to the fuel tables/injection tables. Sorry, pants down caught in your own lies.
Been where and done what? Lies only get you so far man...
What's a "proper 335i"? Full on race map/tune with race gas and full bolt ons? Of course I wouldn't pull on one of those cars in my current configuration but there's no telling when I decide to actually modify my mechanically STOCK car.
2700lbs? Unless you had some serious weight reduction, again you're talking out of your ***. I was actually wrong, your old Sky weighs more than my Sedan by about 30-70lbs, depending on the source. Here's a few sources for you and everyone else to see:
This one shows 3036 for the manual
http://autos.yahoo.com/saturn/sky/20...fications.html
C/D shows 3071
http://www.caranddriver.com/features...atic_29_page_9
This is the only source that shows under (barely) 3k lbs curb weight, 2990, which would only be 11lbs less than my Sedan:
http://www.saturnskyredline.net/Satu...ine-specs.html
GM's own curb weight estimate is 3-3050lbs depending on options. My car has a curb weight of 3001lbs.
Oh yeah? Well using that logic, all F-bodies, bone stock run 12's:
ALL "proper" C6 Z06s run 10s and trap over 127, on average:
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/05/1...-on-run-flats/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zv5R...eature=related
BTF and I have personally corresponded numerous times on the HPT forums. He was one of the folks that I was trading info with on the PCM.
My sky was FAR from stock... lol
05-30-2011, 09:11 PM
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I'd like a tune only 335i that traps 115 with a tune only. To give the notion that any tune only 335i can trap that high is quite optimistic. Please show me some tune only 335i's trapping that high. The most i've seen is 111-105 for a decent run. Keep in mind, just because you think that a tuned car can trap that doesn't mean 95% of the drivers out there can hit that including the OP's opposition who drove a manual. From a roll or a dig the auto will win every time for these cars if everything else is equal. It holds boost between shifts and the 6 speed auto is pretty damn fast at shifting. I've trapped 12.8x at 108mph with an intake and tune(took me a few tries, but got out of the 13's). I could be a couple mph faster if I didn't have the AWD, but then again I fire out of the box pretty damn hard with little effort. Intake filters make a pretty big difference as the stock air box is pretty restrictive.
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Yep, my other tune had a slightly higher peak boost level, but the Cobb flash just feels more solid low to mid rpm range. I have high hopes that it will perform better. I'd run your camaro from a dig. Id probably get out quick, but then you'd frieght train right by.
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BS!! With my tuned, DP, IC and Piping mods on my HHR SS I pulled away from a 335i. There was someone on this message board that was behind us in him Mustang watching it go down. It's easy to spot a 335i with dual exhaust. I doubt anyone will badge a BMW for the hell of it.
Tuned 335i gets pulled on by a cobalt sedan? A stock turbo one?
LoLoLoLoL.
Sure it wasnt a 325i with badges? Jokes... that car will trap over 115mph in the quarter with only a tune.
My last car had an LNF. With a completely maxed stock turbo (25+psi & E85) in a lighter chassis (by 300 pounds) then the balt with proper RWD, it only went 112 mph in negative DA. Noo way you're pulling that car unless BMW driver was a tard, or in sixth gear, or both.
LoLoLoLoL.
Sure it wasnt a 325i with badges? Jokes... that car will trap over 115mph in the quarter with only a tune.
My last car had an LNF. With a completely maxed stock turbo (25+psi & E85) in a lighter chassis (by 300 pounds) then the balt with proper RWD, it only went 112 mph in negative DA. Noo way you're pulling that car unless BMW driver was a tard, or in sixth gear, or both.
06-01-2011, 08:57 AM
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You also neglected to mention the Hoosiers and 100 octane race gas...
Here's a better "tune only" indicator;
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-17270.html
This one has a mixture of race gas and 93, intake and tune:
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-18548.html
This one even has a tune, catback and intake:
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-14211.html
There's plenty more too but the first few pages of the "335i Fast list" has nothing but bolt on, tune, smaller & lighter rim/tire combos, race gas/mixes/meth.
I know just how quick/fast the N54/N55 platforms can be but to say they are unbeatable, "tune only" by a car that is just as easy to mod and is much lighter (aside from the 135i), is ignorant. Anything can happen on the street and not every single car is going to perform like what you see posted on the internet. Some are faster, some are on par and some are just plain dog **** slow. There is no gospel.
Continue posting in my thread all you want but in my eyes, you're just a liar with a chip on your shoulder and a hard-on for the 335i, apparently. You will not receive another response from me.
Here's a better "tune only" indicator;
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-17270.html
This one has a mixture of race gas and 93, intake and tune:
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-18548.html
This one even has a tune, catback and intake:
http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW-335i-Timeslip-14211.html
There's plenty more too but the first few pages of the "335i Fast list" has nothing but bolt on, tune, smaller & lighter rim/tire combos, race gas/mixes/meth.
I know just how quick/fast the N54/N55 platforms can be but to say they are unbeatable, "tune only" by a car that is just as easy to mod and is much lighter (aside from the 135i), is ignorant. Anything can happen on the street and not every single car is going to perform like what you see posted on the internet. Some are faster, some are on par and some are just plain dog **** slow. There is no gospel.
Continue posting in my thread all you want but in my eyes, you're just a liar with a chip on your shoulder and a hard-on for the 335i, apparently. You will not receive another response from me.
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