Street Racing & Kill Stories Basic Technical Questions & Advice

Fun in my Girlfriends Z28: z28 vs 11' CS/GT

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-01-2011, 07:54 PM
  #61  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
ohioborn80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 214
Received 252 Likes on 164 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bh353
You go ahead and keep believing a 5.0 will make 570rwhp n/a with the right work..there not even holding up with a tune without number 8 piston breaking..lol
Yes cause a hand full of cars is every 5.0 there is. Must we really go threw all the issues GM has had? Lifter giving out in the 5th gen, tranny issues that caused production to stop, G8's sucking in water and blowing engines.
ohioborn80 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 07:57 PM
  #62  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Smile

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
LOL...I love how you are like ls1/ls2/ls3/ls6...lol..You forgot ls7 just to make sure you win..haha.

And you will see a 5.0 hit 600whp. With new cams that are out and the Boss heads released and others doing work on heads. Its a matter of time. The high compression is also a key on it as well. Stock compression is 11.5:1.
Yeah ok whatever you say..lol you plan on adding displacement? not gonna happen with a street car and live.
bh353 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:07 PM
  #63  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Yes cause a hand full of cars is every 5.0 there is. Must we really go threw all the issues GM has had? Lifter giving out in the 5th gen, tranny issues that caused production to stop, G8's sucking in water and blowing engines.
What does that have to do with 5.0 blowing up? I can see bad lifters,but when you have a certain #8 cylinder failing on every single 5.0 that has had a failure that is a problem with design and not a defective part..
bh353 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:28 PM
  #64  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
mannyman84's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hawthorne CA
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Haha. I love when threads go out of track. It's funny. I've ran 2 new 5.0's and didn't loose. So I think they both suck at driving and I'm the best driver ever. So I guess that's what's gonna win, driver. I also think the pony needs more horses to pull away from an LS. Im sure if my GF Camaro and the new 5.0 made excact same WHP the Camaro will pull away due to the gearing. I don't think 373's are helping out the stang much. Unless it's on the track.
mannyman84 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:29 PM
  #65  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
mannyman84's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hawthorne CA
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Camaro: 1st.................2nd..............3rd.......... ...4th............
Mustangs: 1st......2nd...........3rd..............4th....... ......
mannyman84 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:33 PM
  #66  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
ohioborn80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 214
Received 252 Likes on 164 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bh353
What does that have to do with 5.0 blowing up? I can see bad lifters,but when you have a certain #8 cylinder failing on every single 5.0 that has had a failure that is a problem with design and not a defective part..
Every 5.0? There has been a total of about 8 out of the 15k sold last yr. What is better from has leaked out two shops tuned them all. Bruenspeed and BAMA. It is in the tune. The way they change knock sensors and stuff. Livernois/Jon Lund/evoperformace/BlwoBYRacing and had no issues with thier tunes blowing up cars.

Its not ford's fault guys are running them to lean and doing half *** email tunes.
ohioborn80 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:36 PM
  #67  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
ohioborn80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 214
Received 252 Likes on 164 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by mannyman84
Haha. I love when threads go out of track. It's funny. I've ran 2 new 5.0's and didn't loose. So I think they both suck at driving and I'm the best driver ever. So I guess that's what's gonna win, driver. I also think the pony needs more horses to pull away from an LS. Im sure if my GF Camaro and the new 5.0 made excact same WHP the Camaro will pull away due to the gearing. I don't think 373's are helping out the stang much. Unless it's on the track.
Its funny you say you beat them. Yet in your GF's car 90% people here with same car calls BS. HAHA

Second you must be really stupid to racing if you think the gears are not helping the car. That and think a stock LS is going to beat a 5.0. You beat the driver. Big difference then beating the car. Full bolt on and cammed LS's and a stock 5.0 sure i see it.
ohioborn80 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:42 PM
  #68  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Every 5.0? There has been a total of about 8 out of the 15k sold. What is better from has leaked out two shops tuned them all. Bruenspeed and BAMA. It is in the tune. The way they change knock sensors and stuff. Livernois/Jon Lund/evoperformace/BlwoBYRacing and had no issues with thier tunes blowing up cars.

Its not ford's fault guys are running them to lean and doing half *** email tunes.
whatever you say..How many of the 15k sold have tunes? also your dyno numbers are fraud..Why don't you do a pull with the 1.00:1? Are you scared your **** will be weak?
bh353 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:44 PM
  #69  
TECH Enthusiast
 
assasinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: huntsville Al
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 15 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bh353
You 5.0 nut huggers are unreal...so your telling me there are no ls1 f body's making over 500rwhp n/a? A properly built f body would rape a 5.0 mustang.

quote where i say that anywhere? u r simply butthurt.


tuners blew those motors is not a defect. you also dont know that 804rwhp has been achieved with a stock engine, top to bottom and blower, on race gas.
assasinator is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 08:50 PM
  #70  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by assasinator
quote where i say that anywhere? u r simply butthurt.


tuners blew those motors not a defect.
why would i be but hurt? you think im jealous of the 5.0? please everyone i have run into are scared bitches.
bh353 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:02 PM
  #71  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by assasinator
quote where i say that anywhere? u r simply butthurt.


tuners blew those motors is not a defect. you also dont know that 804rwhp has been achieved with a stock engine, top to bottom and blower, on race gas.
Are you that stupid? You do know the 5.0 is over 11:1 compression ratio,so how in the hell are they putting out over 800rwhp on stock internals with FI? No way in hell they are pulling those kind of number with that kind of compression..lol
bh353 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:08 PM
  #72  
TECH Enthusiast
 
assasinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: huntsville Al
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 15 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bh353
Are you that stupid? You do know the 5.0 is over 11:1 compression ratio,so how in the hell are they putting out over 800rwhp on stock internals with FI? No way in hell they are pulling those kind of number with that kind of compression..lol
well, if im stupid, you are a fool. wake up fool.
assasinator is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:10 PM
  #73  
Teching In
iTrader: (2)
 
NiteRiderWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Socal
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
There first video I know that guys. He ended up running the car to a 12.6 stock. That video was also in middle of summer with a DA of 3k. Car has now went low 11s also.

Oh he also traded a 09 SRT8 chally/10 CAMARO SS/10 GT500(wifes) in that order to get his 5.0 and his wife a 2012 Chally RT(it had more room then the GT500).

And since you first one to run a 5.0. That shows that guy didnt even know how to drive his car.


If you are really that stupid and think the 5.0 isn't going mid to low 12s stock you are dumber then I thought.
Yea ok, Ive driven both the auto and manual 5.0 and it dosent pull anywhere near like a low 12 second ride. So basically what you are saying is a 5.0>C5 Z06? Like I said before I have yet to see any 5.0's run the times you claim they run bone stock. And I have witnessed more then a handfull of them get walked on the street.
NiteRiderWS6 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:13 PM
  #74  
10 Second Club
iTrader: (2)
 
ohioborn80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 214
Received 252 Likes on 164 Posts

Default

Originally Posted by bh353
Are you that stupid? You do know the 5.0 is over 11:1 compression ratio,so how in the hell are they putting out over 800rwhp on stock internals with FI? No way in hell they are pulling those kind of number with that kind of compression..lol
Its actually has 11.5:1...and think the Camaro SS is 10.5:1..not much different.

Better do your research cause they are. Shops, regular owners all. With KB/Whipples/Prochargers?vortechs/and paxtons.
http://www.dragzine.com/news/video-j...akes-800-rwhp/
600whp with pump gas and no other big mods
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-Final-numbers

672whp with pump gas
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48591

I can keep going also.
ohioborn80 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:14 PM
  #75  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by assasinator
well, if im stupid, you are a fool. wake up fool.
Ok how much boost are they running to make over 800rwhp on over 11:1 compression ratio? So they didn't change pistons,rods,or crank?
bh353 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:14 PM
  #76  
TECH Enthusiast
 
assasinator's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: huntsville Al
Posts: 528
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 15 Posts

Default

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXuCBFVF2XY


there you go.


your expertise on the internal strength of the coyote is lacking. IT IS FAR STRONGER THAN A STOCK LS.

you are obviously basing your coyote 'knowledge' on internet BS. you also have no idea that guys running renegade EFI are running 10:1 and big boost with YSi blowers.
assasinator is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:15 PM
  #77  
Teching In
iTrader: (2)
 
NiteRiderWS6's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Socal
Posts: 47
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by willizm
Did you cherry pick those 5.0 runs and skip past the ones that were better? Just curious because when I check youtube I see alot in the 12's and alot in the low 13's when searching "stock 2011 5.0 drag". I won't say what I saw searching "stock ls1 drag" because it wasn't pretty.

I wouldn't say I'm a nutswinger for ford. I'm just realistic.

Also, good kill OP but it does seem fishy. Maybe the 5.0 had a trunk full of dead hookers. Not that I have been there or anything
I typed in "Stock 2011 5.0 1/4" I think
NiteRiderWS6 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:17 PM
  #78  
TECH Enthusiast
Thread Starter
iTrader: (2)
 
mannyman84's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Hawthorne CA
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post

Default

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Its funny you say you beat them. Yet in your GF's car 90% people here with same car calls BS. HAHA

Second you must be really stupid to racing if you think the gears are not helping the car. That and think a stock LS is going to beat a 5.0. You beat the driver. Big difference then beating the car. Full bolt on and cammed LS's and a stock 5.0 sure i see it.
I never said I beat them in my GF'scar. It was in my WS6. M6 put down best of 320 rwhp. What's the avarage new 5.0? 370-380? Why not? U are the stupid one. And probably lighter too.
mannyman84 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:17 PM
  #79  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Its actually has 11.5:1...and think the Camaro SS is 10.5:1..not much different.

Better do your research cause they are. Shops, regular owners all. With KB/Whipples/Prochargers?vortechs/and paxtons.
http://www.dragzine.com/news/video-j...akes-800-rwhp/
600whp with pump gas and no other big mods
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-Final-numbers

672whp with pump gas
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48591

I can keep going also.
where is the 800rwhp 5.0 pn your list?
bh353 is offline  
Old 06-01-2011, 09:18 PM
  #80  
Staging Lane
 
bh353's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: virginia beach va
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Its actually has 11.5:1...and think the Camaro SS is 10.5:1..not much different.

Better do your research cause they are. Shops, regular owners all. With KB/Whipples/Prochargers?vortechs/and paxtons.
http://www.dragzine.com/news/video-j...akes-800-rwhp/
600whp with pump gas and no other big mods
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...-Final-numbers

672whp with pump gas
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48591

I can keep going also.
where is the 800rwhp 5.0 with a list of mods? get the hell out of here with that bullshit..No way in hell they are running 12lbs of boost with 11:5.1 compression with stock internals..lol
bh353 is offline  


Quick Reply: Fun in my Girlfriends Z28: z28 vs 11' CS/GT



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:42 AM.