Fun in my Girlfriends Z28: z28 vs 11' CS/GT
06-02-2011, 12:54 AM
#122
Staging Lane
BTW: I set up that race with the 5.0 versus Niterider. I drove that 5.0 for a day, and was the guy closing off that road. The 5.0 had no tire spin issues, was a auto car and the driver of it has tons of 1/4 mile experience in both his and his dads 9 and 10 second rides.
06-02-2011, 02:59 AM
#123
>LS3 C6 Vette will win 8/10 times. But if 5.0 driver is great and vett mess up.
>C63 AMG never paid attention to them
>C5Z06 refer to C6
>E92 M3..Motortrend proved the 5.0 was faster.
>E60 M5 refer to C63
>BMW M6 refer to C63
>Challenger 392 and who cares its a heavier turd then last yr. This car has proven nothing but Dodge can had power and weight and still be slow. Has any one ran one at the track. Oh beside the 1 on you tube that ran 12.4 that later leaked it didn't pass no emissions or nothing cause it was set up for show and publicity.
>C63 AMG never paid attention to them
>C5Z06 refer to C6
>E92 M3..Motortrend proved the 5.0 was faster.
>E60 M5 refer to C63
>BMW M6 refer to C63
>Challenger 392 and who cares its a heavier turd then last yr. This car has proven nothing but Dodge can had power and weight and still be slow. Has any one ran one at the track. Oh beside the 1 on you tube that ran 12.4 that later leaked it didn't pass no emissions or nothing cause it was set up for show and publicity.
doesn't that apply to most races? for example an Ls1 beating the 5.0 or the M3 beating the 5.0 
06-02-2011, 03:23 AM
#124
Maybe the 5.0 runs better in other states than Ohio lol, from the track to the street I have yet to see anything to drop my jaw about.I feel the 3 ford guys on tech are faster to defend a 5.0 kill than there car ever will be.ls1tech should lock 5.0 kills from going longer than 5 pages ,its pretty much a bunch of bs at that point.I'm no ford hater,but I'm starting to be a ford fan hater lol.
06-02-2011, 05:28 AM
#125
You really need to get out of your sheltered life and realize that most tracks in your area are full of ****. Bone stock 5.0 GT's are not gonna run any better then high 12's at REAL, HONEST tracks at normal DA's. FACT.
BTW: I set up that race with the 5.0 versus Niterider. I drove that 5.0 for a day, and was the guy closing off that road. The 5.0 had no tire spin issues, was a auto car and the driver of it has tons of 1/4 mile experience in both his and his dads 9 and 10 second rides.
BTW: I set up that race with the 5.0 versus Niterider. I drove that 5.0 for a day, and was the guy closing off that road. The 5.0 had no tire spin issues, was a auto car and the driver of it has tons of 1/4 mile experience in both his and his dads 9 and 10 second rides.
And what you consider real DA's? 0-3000? Cause DA's we see don't compare to those ones they see in say the New England states. Do i think a 5.0 will run low 12 every time. Nope just stating what is possible. Same for say a ZO6. It is capable of low 11s and even a high 10. But most drivers are not going to touch that. There is just as many mid 12 sec 5.0s as there anything else also.
06-02-2011, 05:39 AM
#126
Just bolt-on's.....I now have a 90 fast for it....Who know's how much that will help, but from my research it should help by about 15rwhp. Could dip into the 10's. Did you see that 60'? Only a 1.73 to run that......Your gonna have your work cut out for ya
I've personally seen a bonestock c5 z06 go a 11.6.....jus sayin....lol You still in Iraq?
I've personally seen a bonestock c5 z06 go a 11.6.....jus sayin....lol You still in Iraq?The fast should help for sure specially with cams and stuff later. The FAST 102 intake help the G8s shine.
Ya you can work on the 60ft..My average 60ft is 1.60-1.65. I will be hoping for 1.5x's here soon with the addition of headers and some suspension work. I am in Iraq and will be home end June for 2 weeks. I mentioned anyone want to come to the track July 9th in San Antonio I am game to run. F body-C5ZO6. Hell even a C6ZO6. I don't care. I am not scarred to run anyone. There will be a list of cars we are taking. Including a ZO6 killer EVO.
06-02-2011, 06:28 AM
#127
Did you miss my 522rwhp link with a stalled auto built rear drag radials etc? 
Soooo.... most c6zs don't run low 11s... don't even touch it... the record is 10.9.
Annnd.... most 5.0s run mid 12s... the record is 12.3.
So most 5.0s run within .3 of the record and most c6zs won't touch within .4-.5 of it'd record.
I have went over this on both sides of the fence... Don't be THAT biased.
Soooo.... most c6zs don't run low 11s... don't even touch it... the record is 10.9.
Annnd.... most 5.0s run mid 12s... the record is 12.3.
So most 5.0s run within .3 of the record and most c6zs won't touch within .4-.5 of it'd record.
I have went over this on both sides of the fence... Don't be THAT biased.
06-02-2011, 06:30 AM
#128
I posted what it list as..Which was high 11s. Just as some think 5.0s are mid-high 12s.
The fast should help for sure specially with cams and stuff later. The FAST 102 intake help the G8s shine.
Ya you can work on the 60ft..My average 60ft is 1.60-1.65. I will be hoping for 1.5x's here soon with the addition of headers and some suspension work. I am in Iraq and will be home end June for 2 weeks. I mentioned anyone want to come to the track July 9th in San Antonio I am game to run. F body-C5ZO6. Hell even a C6ZO6. I don't care. I am not scarred to run anyone. There will be a list of cars we are taking. Including a ZO6 killer EVO.
The fast should help for sure specially with cams and stuff later. The FAST 102 intake help the G8s shine.
Ya you can work on the 60ft..My average 60ft is 1.60-1.65. I will be hoping for 1.5x's here soon with the addition of headers and some suspension work. I am in Iraq and will be home end June for 2 weeks. I mentioned anyone want to come to the track July 9th in San Antonio I am game to run. F body-C5ZO6. Hell even a C6ZO6. I don't care. I am not scarred to run anyone. There will be a list of cars we are taking. Including a ZO6 killer EVO.
06-02-2011, 06:54 AM
#129
Did you miss my 522rwhp link with a stalled auto built rear drag radials etc?
Soooo.... most c6zs don't run low 11s... don't even touch it... the record is 10.9.
Annnd.... most 5.0s run mid 12s... the record is 12.3.
So most 5.0s run within .3 of the record and most c6zs won't touch within .4-.5 of it'd record.
I have went over this on both sides of the fence... Don't be THAT biased.
Soooo.... most c6zs don't run low 11s... don't even touch it... the record is 10.9.
Annnd.... most 5.0s run mid 12s... the record is 12.3.
So most 5.0s run within .3 of the record and most c6zs won't touch within .4-.5 of it'd record.
I have went over this on both sides of the fence... Don't be THAT biased.
I am not being bias. Just from what i seen. I have seen several 5.0's even go 12.5-13.3 stock. Most the ones i see go 12.9+ are new or fairly new drivers to drag racing. Thinking can nail it off line on stock tires.
Same with the ZO6. record 10.9 and that was one guy. The next above him is 11.1 all way to 11.9 for top 25. Seen this at the track. Brand new C6ZO6 at track. Paper plate sand all. As above blew tires off it ran a 13.6 or so. Next pass little better and so on but guy never made better then 12.7. Three Months later and some more practice same guy was running constant 11.8-12.0. All this was in the texas heat also. DA was 2400-3200.
06-02-2011, 07:09 AM
#131
All his times up to this time are on street tires with sub par 60fts. He will be shooting for mid to high 9s with some sticky tires. And a little more boost. he curretly makes 640whp/540wtq he upping it to about 690-700whp and 580wtq
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06-02-2011, 08:41 AM
#133
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Someone earlier basically said that an LS1 can't make that kind of power NA.
I mean, the mighty 5.0 did it, but surely an LS1 cannot.
The 5.0 is a great motor, but the hype surrounding it is becomming sickening.
It's approaching GTR levels or hype and nut-swinging-ness...
06-02-2011, 09:13 AM
#134
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Im amazed how many people havent figured out that under the right conditions (whatever they may be) any car can beat any car on the track or the street. Last time I went to the track it was hotter than hell and humid, i couldnt better a 13.5 while a pullied 03 cobra was running 14.2's. I dont assume I can beat all 03-04 cobras, nor do I think I could beat that cobra again in desirable conditions. BUt I did beat him that day so that wouldnt void the validity of my state if I had posted about getting a kill on an 03 cobra.
06-02-2011, 09:14 AM
#135
Wow this thread blew up.
When we say a stock 5.0 can run mid-low 12s I really hope you mean on tire otherwise I call bullshit. Not gonna happen on street tires. On drag radials I could see it, like I said I'm even with a 5.0 in trap and weight...but I pull a 1.77 60ft and he was in the 2.x
First off, anyone who doesn't know a head/cam ls1 can hit 500rwhp is dumb. But the real comparison should be ls3 to 5.0 right?
And the 5.0 had ported heads and some baby cams (not stock cams) unless you are referring to a different car than the one I saw (they said the cams were close to stock 99 cobra size or some **** like that, but not stock), along with the BOSS intake which gained HP but lost TQ.
Why does every racing thread turn into a "woulda coulda shoulda" around here? **** happens.
When we say a stock 5.0 can run mid-low 12s I really hope you mean on tire otherwise I call bullshit. Not gonna happen on street tires. On drag radials I could see it, like I said I'm even with a 5.0 in trap and weight...but I pull a 1.77 60ft and he was in the 2.x
First off, anyone who doesn't know a head/cam ls1 can hit 500rwhp is dumb. But the real comparison should be ls3 to 5.0 right?
And the 5.0 had ported heads and some baby cams (not stock cams) unless you are referring to a different car than the one I saw (they said the cams were close to stock 99 cobra size or some **** like that, but not stock), along with the BOSS intake which gained HP but lost TQ.
Why does every racing thread turn into a "woulda coulda shoulda" around here? **** happens.
06-02-2011, 10:04 AM
#136
TECH Enthusiast
you seem to be fair IMO. that converter was locked for that dyno run, not stalled. not much percent-wise to be had on a dyno with a M6 over a locked converter. 522rwhp is a good benchmark for the 302 cubic inch coyote to go after.
507rwhp on a loaded dyno for a coyote vs. 522 for a 346 LS(TFS).
the coyote will have fully ported heads, ported BOSS intake, 90mm throttle body, AND aftermarket larger valves and big cams.....lets see the dyno run for that one. bet its higher than 507.
06-02-2011, 10:19 AM
#137
you seem to be fair IMO. that converter was locked for that dyno run, not stalled. not much percent-wise to be had on a dyno with a M6 over a locked converter. 522rwhp is a good benchmark for the 302 cubic inch coyote to go after.
507rwhp on a loaded dyno for a coyote vs. 522 for a 346 LS(TFS).
the coyote will have fully ported heads, ported BOSS intake, 90mm throttle body, AND aftermarket larger valves and big cams.....lets see the dyno run for that one. bet its higher than 507.
507rwhp on a loaded dyno for a coyote vs. 522 for a 346 LS(TFS).
the coyote will have fully ported heads, ported BOSS intake, 90mm throttle body, AND aftermarket larger valves and big cams.....lets see the dyno run for that one. bet its higher than 507.
I did miss where it was locked. I would still be interested to see what it would do stock rear street tires and t56. I would guess it would be a solid 530-535rwhp but who knows.He is shooting for another 3%-4% with e85. His car is a drag car, not a Dyno queen.
I just like seeing some of the things said.. All in good fun to me, I could care less in the end. I love that they are making cars in stock trim that with just a few bolt ons and a tune I can get a pretty decent race from a roll with them, makes finding a good run much easier.
I would think the 5.0 could squeeze put 520+ with someone who takes the ime with it.
06-02-2011, 10:22 AM
#138
Wow this thread blew up.
When we say a stock 5.0 can run mid-low 12s I really hope you mean on tire otherwise I call bullshit. Not gonna happen on street tires. On drag radials I could see it, like I said I'm even with a 5.0 in trap and weight...but I pull a 1.77 60ft and he was in the 2.x
First off, anyone who doesn't know a head/cam ls1 can hit 500rwhp is dumb. But the real comparison should be ls3 to 5.0 right?
And the 5.0 had ported heads and some baby cams (not stock cams) unless you are referring to a different car than the one I saw (they said the cams were close to stock 99 cobra size or some **** like that, but not stock), along with the BOSS intake which gained HP but lost TQ.
Why does every racing thread turn into a "woulda coulda shoulda" around here? **** happens.
When we say a stock 5.0 can run mid-low 12s I really hope you mean on tire otherwise I call bullshit. Not gonna happen on street tires. On drag radials I could see it, like I said I'm even with a 5.0 in trap and weight...but I pull a 1.77 60ft and he was in the 2.x
First off, anyone who doesn't know a head/cam ls1 can hit 500rwhp is dumb. But the real comparison should be ls3 to 5.0 right?
And the 5.0 had ported heads and some baby cams (not stock cams) unless you are referring to a different car than the one I saw (they said the cams were close to stock 99 cobra size or some **** like that, but not stock), along with the BOSS intake which gained HP but lost TQ.
Why does every racing thread turn into a "woulda coulda shoulda" around here? **** happens.
And people have cut 1.8 60fts on the stock Perreli tires on the mustang. It is doing good burn outs on them that gets them to stick. Below is the fastest bone stock 5.0 in the country.
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...=1#post1687309
06-02-2011, 10:29 AM
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