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Old 06-13-2011, 07:04 PM
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Default 1990 strim 5.0 vs 02 z28 with bolt ons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNXvFKZjmX4

The 5.0 is stock from throttle body to oil pan with a v2 strim. Has some **** 2.5 bbk hpipe, 2.25 flow tubes, and 2.25 tail pipes and a tune on 7psi. Its my dad. He has an 04 cobra and supercharged 06 so his driving was a little rusty. If he would shifted at the right rpms he woulda had me for sure.

I have an 02 z28: Slp lid, full exhaust, and a4.

I'm giving him some better flowtubes and mufflers for fathers day off my old fox and he should take care of me from a roll.

No dig because he has his 225 all seasons on.
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Nice! Sounded like he was shifting a little early, your right. That's awsome that your dad is into cars as well and is down to race though! Keep it coming man, I'd like to see a rematch when he brushes up on his shifting. Good kill.
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Originally Posted by LS1rob00
Nice! Sounded like he was shifting a little early, your right. That's awsome that your dad is into cars as well and is down to race though! Keep it coming man, I'd like to see a rematch when he brushes up on his shifting. Good kill.
Thanks! 2nd run he revs out 2nd gear and starts to pull, but he botches 3rd and hit the breaks haha. He's a good driver, but the cobra and this are two diff animals.

I come from a line of mustangs, first ls1 so we still got his rides around haha.

and yes if we re-run It'll be on tape... day video. I'm trying to stay off the street, but the local 8th mile booted me for no cage on spray.
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Those results aren't gonna change IMO with a different catback: that's all that thing has in it. Good race though! And time for you to mod up and go after your dad's faster mustangs.
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Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78
and yes if we re-run It'll be on tape... day video. I'm trying to stay off the street, but the local 8th mile booted me for no cage on spray.
doing good to run faster then 11.5 on minor boltons and spray: how bit a shot you running???
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Those results aren't gonna change IMO with a different catback: that's all that thing has in it. Good race though! And time for you to mod up and go after your dad's faster mustangs.
Lol, don't take this the wrong way, but 2 and a quarter tails and flow tubes after a bigger hpipe def hurt the car. I'm going to put dumps on as well. I don't understand why you would think otherwise.

I expect in a rematch by 105 he will have me covered. It might change after that but my car does a best of 109mph on motor.

His gt runs 11's, but on spray I'm a wee bit quicker.
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Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78
Lol, don't take this the wrong way, but 2 and a quarter tails and flow tubes after a bigger hpipe def hurt the car. I'm going to put dumps on as well. I don't understand why you would think otherwise.

I expect in a rematch by 105 he will have me covered. It might change after that but my car does a best of 109mph on motor.

His gt runs 11's, but on spray I'm a wee bit quicker.
Granted the old 5.0 exhaust is more convoluted then a 2nd gen camaro's or my GTO, but I had no problems with restrictions on either ('78 Z28 w/ midly built 454) and neither one gained noteable power with cutouts.

What I'm saying is that until you increase the flow through the engine, playing with exhaust backpressure from what it already has isn't gonna help anything. Unless you went with headers---- is that what you are referring to as "flow tubes"???
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Granted the old 5.0 exhaust is more convoluted then a 2nd gen camaro's or my GTO, but I had no problems with restrictions on either ('78 Z28 w/ midly built 454) and neither one gained noteable power with cutouts.

What I'm saying is that until you increase the flow through the engine, playing with exhaust backpressure from what it already has isn't gonna help anything. Unless you went with headers---- is that what you are referring to as "flow tubes"???
On a 125 kit it did am 11.5 at 123 mph. The car is stupid slow out of the hole. Best 60ft on spray was a 1.8.

Flowtubes are pipes between the hpipe and the mufflers. His exhaust goes from 2.5 h to 2.25 tubes to 2.5 mufflers, to 2.25 tails. It wont gain any power because you aren't increasing airflow, but the powerband will be effected from less restrictions, nothing to do with back pressure. The car will just work more efficiently. A blower car needs all the exhaust it can get, so it should help it above 5000rpms. Which 5.0s need because they have the worst stock heads and intakes.

Hey worst case we see what happens on video lol.
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Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78
I have an 02 z28: Slp lid, full exhaust, and a4.
get a torque converter and wake that A4 up
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Originally Posted by 98BlackTransAm
get a torque converter and wake that A4 up
Man, I wish. Thats all it needs. I took it to the local 8th mile and it does a best of like 8.48 at 85 on motor with a 2.0 60. On a 70 shot it jumps down a whopping .08 to a 8.40, but picks up 6mph and trapped 91mph.

Heres a video. It's the second clip. Kit comes on wayyy after the 60ft. I'm afraid to spray it below 3000rpms in 1st. I don't even want to spray the 70 shot in first lol. When it comes on though it comes on hard, you can hear it in the vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZkVWGq-SKE


Btw she's getting an antiroll bar soon, just gotta make it lol. Car has 25.5 subframs and chassis reinforcements with a short as 30 inch tq arm. So when it hooks it bites the tire hard as hell.

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Sooo are you headers like 4" primaries? I mean, you did say "huge headers" right?


I've never really been a fan of the way most older 5.0s sound....this was no different.
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Originally Posted by WSsick
Sooo are you headers like 4" primaries? I mean, you did say "huge headers" right?


I've never really been a fan of the way most older 5.0s sound....this was no different.
They are, howd you know?
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Good runs.
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Tell dad to pull the window up,put an intake,injectors,inline/intank pump and some heads on that car instead of messing with exhaust. With driveline pieces that can handle it(ie axles,clutch) he will be in the 11s and trap better than 120MPH and be able to drive it anywhere.
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Idk if its just me but I'd swap the gears to a 3.73 instead of a 2.xx (unless i misread) ... seems a bit long to me.. And of course the regular boltons to make it all worth it. Good luck to your dad and great race!

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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Tell dad to pull the window up,put an intake,injectors,inline/intank pump and some heads on that car instead of messing with exhaust. With driveline pieces that can handle it(ie axles,clutch) he will be in the 11s and trap better than 120MPH and be able to drive it anywhere.
Inline pump is not the way to go. Car has 42lbers, 255, and an anderson on it. It's ready for a h/c/i. He was looking for some fast as cast heads, but bought the cobra instead. This is the first time the fox has been out of storage in weeks. It's a 2 owner car 53,000 miles. Exhaust needs to be done before the blower. On another note when it gets geared I'm hoping to run a low 12 (in the fox) before we try the heads cam stuff on the fox.

Originally Posted by sujomatt
Idk if its just me but I'd swap the gears to a 3.73 instead of a 2.xx (unless i misread) ... seems a bit long to me.. And of course the regular boltons to make it all worth it. Good luck to your dad and great race!
I would too, but I bought this as an in between car ot be honest. I just couldn't find the right fox and got a hell of a deal on this, but it's growing on me, I'm not that loyal. Still hard to want to put the money in. Not to mention it's a shitty 10bolt. When I sprayed the 70 I though it was going to break.

Anyone know why my abs doesn't work with a 15 inch rim and a 275 60... and yes I put the tire size in the tuner.
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If theres a mismatch from front tire to rear tire - the ABS can't engage properly so it shuts off. As far as I know, thats not really tunable
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Damn.... **** sucks. Suppose to 60roll an isf that does 115 on motor, but running on spray. I need abs **** my life.
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Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78
Inline pump is not the way to go. Car has 42lbers, 255, and an anderson on it. It's ready for a h/c/i. He was looking for some fast as cast heads, but bought the cobra instead. This is the first time the fox has been out of storage in weeks. It's a 2 owner car 53,000 miles. Exhaust needs to be done before the blower. On another note when it gets geared I'm hoping to run a low 12 (in the fox) before we try the heads cam stuff on the fox.


I would too, but I bought this as an in between car ot be honest. I just couldn't find the right fox and got a hell of a deal on this, but it's growing on me, I'm not that loyal. Still hard to want to put the money in. Not to mention it's a shitty 10bolt. When I sprayed the 70 I though it was going to break.

Anyone know why my abs doesn't work with a 15 inch rim and a 275 60... and yes I put the tire size in the tuner.

Why Cobra intake and cast iron heads? Cobra intake is not enough for sure.
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Originally Posted by Mike Morris
Why Cobra intake and cast iron heads? Cobra intake is not enough for sure.
I said fast as cast? Thats a trick 190cc head. Def one of there past.

For the record strim cars on 10psi have made over 430 at the tire with explorer junk. Thats enough in a coupe to run 10's. Just gotta know what your doing. But no, this fox wont get crappy stuff. Prob 190cc heads, stock cam, and a systemax with 3:73s?. Should do a hair over 400 with the stock cam.

Edit my bad. When I said bought the cobra he bought an 04 cobra. He was trying to buy used heads online and found the car and opted for that lulz.



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