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Old 06-29-2011, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ohioborn80
Nah it cool. I ask headers cause one guy was like ya full exhaust but car didn't have headers.

Why only a 1.8 60ft? On stock suspension should be able to get least 1.6-1.7 if launching hard on DR's.
Maybe the 1.8 60ft was bad track prep ? not sure.

He blew the rear on the next pass.

Actually he has had very bad luck with his. 1 blown motor, 2 broken clutch's, and 1 blown rear. He ended up selling it to buy a 03 cobra.
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Originally Posted by 69chevelleSS
Apparently you misinterpreted my post.

The 30-40hp that gto has over the 5.0 is not enough to compensate for the 200lb more the gto weighs.
Also you gain around 0.1 in the 1/4 for every 100 lbs lost.
I am aware each car is different.....
Wrong again, on almost every level. The only thing you have right is that each car is different. Mainly due to weather/driver factors.
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Originally Posted by brians91formula
Maybe the 1.8 60ft was bad track prep ? not sure.

He blew the rear on the next pass.

Actually he has had very bad luck with his. 1 blown motor, 2 broken clutch's, and 1 blown rear. He ended up selling it to buy a 03 cobra.
Ya i would have sold it also..lol

I had a tranny go out but ford replaced it under warranty. We will see how long this one holds.

Issues with the G8 is main reason I got rid of it. People kept hitting it. It was in shop longer then on the streets.
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Originally Posted by Sticks n Stones
Unlike your cyber internet cafe azz I've actually BEEN all over the world. And probably got kids all over the world, too.
Your not the only one.... Plus about 39 of the states. I know I have a few babies momma's some where..lol
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Originally Posted by itsslow98
read my post after that before you decide to talk trash.
And where did I talk trash about anything/one/car???

Just stating a fact there bud.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Wrong again, on almost every level. The only thing you have right is that each car is different. Mainly due to weather/driver factors.
You are telling me 30-40 more rwhp is enough to not only match a car with presumably 200lbs less weight but also out run it that badly? Sorry sir but no way in hell, IF this gto does weigh 200lbs more with 420rwhp.

Please correct my mistakes since you must know everything....
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Originally Posted by necrocannibal
And where did I talk trash about anything/one/car???

Just stating a fact there bud.
You acted like because I stated dyno numbers that it was the only reason I claimed the mustang performed and thats BS.

I stated I raced the car in my own car, hes my brother, and I drove the car. And you lingered on the one fact that I posted what it put down on the rollers.

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Originally Posted by itsslow98
Youi acted liek because
sum1 ben drenkin
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
sum1 ben drenkin
tHeYr U gow

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good kill and the GTO sounds good too
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Many of the people in here apparently dont know jack about the GTO...

Education time...

Curb weight of GTOs...

manual GTO = 3725lbs... no driver
auto gto = 3800lbs... no driver

Most GTO owners pull 100 lbs out of the car without blinking an eye. Tow brace, brace cover, gas tank braces, jack kit, spare tire, trunk carpet. Weight reduction is very easy for the GTOs... you can get them down to the weight of an Fbody without much work. My personal goat weighed 3625ish curb weight... 3765lbs with me in it (light weight driver mod). When I ran at the track with a 1/4 tank of gas... I was right around 3670lbs with me in the car. So no they arent as heavy as most believe... and they weigh right around what the new 5.0 weighs... not several hundred lbs more like most believe. So TBH there really isnt a weight disadvantage for the GTO vs the new 5.0... they are right on par.

Second there is so much BS hype about the new 5.0... not to say it isnt a great car... it is but hype is hype and its not actual real world results. I have personally seen a new 5.0 do 11.8 with a -700 da CAI, tune and drag radials here in Texas. Normally he would be mid to low 12s...

Sorry for the quality (watch for lights on the cars ) and the crappy camera man (was his friend in my car to even weight). This will probably stir the pot a little... very very lightly modded GTO vs bone stock 5.0... getting downed every single time, 2 digs 3 rolls. I killed another one just like this from 3 rolls in a row a couple months later... he asked me if I had a supercharger when we pulled up to the light after the runs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ccu2ckY--c

There are many factors that go into a race besides just HP/TQ and weight... power band is a huge factor, conditions... driver etc etc. LS2 still has a stronger wide powerband all across the board... and thats what gives it an edge over the 5.0 imo. Fords were never known for having a good wide powerband like GM Ls engines.

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Originally Posted by Poolshark1321
Many of the people in here apparently dont know jack about the GTO...



like most believe. So TBH there really isnt a weight disadvantage for t
There are many factors that go into a race besides just HP/TQ and weight... power band is a huge factor, conditions... driver etc etc. LS2 still has a stronger wide powerband all across the board... and thats what gives it an edge over the 5.0 imo. Fords were never known for having a good wide powerband like GM Ls engines.
Yea ok
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Originally Posted by automach1
Yea ok
OK mr 0 post... doesnt know **** or have anything constructive to add, shitstang nut swinger. come back when you have some solid data to back up your nonsense...
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Does that prove anything... no but atleast its something to look at and compare instead of just talking to talk. Goat definitely has more down low torque...
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Originally Posted by Poolshark1321
Second there is so much BS hype about the new 5.0... not to say it isnt a great car... it is but hype is hype and its not actual real world results. I have personally seen a new 5.0 do 11.8 with a -700 da CAI, tune and drag radials here in Texas. Normally he would be mid to low 12s...
If you were referring to my blue GT at RPR; I didn't have a CAI
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Originally Posted by Poolshark1321
Does that prove anything... no but atleast its something to look at and compare instead of just talking to talk. Goat definitely has more down low torque...
So you race at 3,500rpms junior?
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
So you race at 3,500rpms junior?
Everyone races at 3500 rpm's!
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Originally Posted by z99ls1
Everyone races at 3500 rpm's!
I'm always doing it wrong!!


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