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Old 07-29-2011, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
If you haven't noticed, more often than not it's the F-body owner that does that.



Why?
Why what?

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DO you know Andre from Excessive Performance there in Killeen? HIs Eclipse that runs 10.6@140mph that looks bad need of a paint job. Full interior still and runs about 28psi.

Or Pat with the blue Evo 6 that is known is for being the vette killer.
Yeah I've seen those cars. I respect them, heck I have a 98 eclipse gst in georgetown waiting on a motor. I'm just talking about the civic guys that always talk about their power when it took tons of boost to get them there
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The tears are streaming down my face
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Ohio I don't know what the da was when I ran. But there was a new 5.0 auto there that was 13.1......so according to you guys it must not have been great.

Automach, why do you keep talkin about other peoples cars? Does yours not have any power? I'll ask again, What does yours run?

So we have established that race built na mod motors can make more than 550 hp.....so far we can count them on one hand. Good job!
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Originally Posted by automach1
Face the facts

5.4 4v top 3 n/a is 615+ 600+ and 593.

The 4.6 is 501 n/a
Race built na ls's are well over 800. Hell street built ls'a are over 600rwhp now. As a matter of fact gm can sell you a crate 454lsx that will make over 600 rwhp on pump.
So mr facttiod what does yours do???? I mean if their so great should'nt you be runnin 10's with like 2 bolt-ons.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by garner
Why what?



Yeah I've seen those cars. I respect them, heck I have a 98 eclipse gst in georgetown waiting on a motor. I'm just talking about the civic guys that always talk about their power when it took tons of boost to get them there
Why would you make fun of a ~2,500lb car with 500hp? And why does it matter how many lbs of boost it took to get there? *Insert "well an LS1 with 20lbs of boost would make XXXhp"*
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Irunelevens
Why would you make fun of a ~2,500lb car with 500hp? And why does it matter how many lbs of boost it took to get there? *Insert "well an LS1 with 20lbs of boost would make XXXhp"*
Because around here they all look like **** and sound like ****. You can never make a 4 banger sound good. And I brought up the boost because most will just say the horsepower but not how much boost it took to get there
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Originally Posted by Heater
I knew exactly who and what cars you guys were talking about.


Honestly, I'm not a fan of a mod motor unless it has boost on it. With boost they are the sickness; without they are the weakness.
...mostly the weakness LOL..but your right..mod motors respond really well to boost...no doubting that
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Originally Posted by garner
Because around here they all look like **** and sound like ****. You can never make a 4 banger sound good. And I brought up the boost because most will just say the horsepower but not how much boost it took to get there
i'm right there with you Garner on this subject!...i ******* hate hondas with a passion...yes they can be fast..hell they weigh next to nothing and that's the only reason they have a chance in competing with most V8 cars....does'nt change the fact they are still ugly and 90% of the ones that think they are fast can barely beat a stock F body..they are some monster 4 cyl's out there..but common everybody...most of them are laughable

i can sit here for some time and argue Ford vs GM ..blah blah blah..at the end of the day they BOTH make awesome muscle cars...but i'm the President of a muscle car club (was just recently given the presidency due to the previous one moving) and we have many mustang's, camaro's..ect..ect..and alot of time we joke around bullshiting about a GM vs Ford topic in the parking lott we meet up in..but it all changes when a Honda pulls up in the parking lott...we're all like "" FORD!!..CHEVY!!...WONDER TWIN POWERS!.....ACTIVATE!!!"" then we get in our cars and rev our boosted Ford and Chevy engines and the Honda's ALWAYS run off!! lol.
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So basically you had no other option but to go with whored out engines to keep up lol again 5.4 4v > ls1 6xx>5xx
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Originally Posted by automach1
So basically you had no other option but to go with whored out engines to keep up lol again 5.4 4v > ls1 6xx>5xx
so basicly you make claims yet STILL DONT" post websites or vids of proof...we GM guys have no need to prove ourselves to you when getting in a N/A engine argument you guy's will loose hands down becuase we use larger CID in most our engines . I love how you keep doing the 5.4> than 5.7 LS1 thing...your math skills suck..BTW..my procharged SS > than your MACH1..hands down...BTW..check the september issue of GMHTP mag...they have an SS in there making 460+ RWHP with ONLY a cam change..with of course the obvious of exhaust and tuning..that's what happens when you mod a larger engine..you get more HP...Physics win's again **** Nugget
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Originally Posted by automach1
So basically you had no other option but to go with whored out engines to keep up lol again 5.4 4v > ls1 6xx>5xx
BTW..i got a good bit of vids on my youtube channel of me beating modded N/A mustangs and boosted modded mustangs...and that was when my car had bad fuel issues as well as atrocious belt slip issues...they have all been fixed and i have yet to get a vid of me monkey stomping a Mach 1...so where the hell do you live
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Just curious whats the highest rwhp stock cube'd LSX? 346. Nothing bigger.
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Just curious whats the highest rwhp stock cube'd LSX? 346. Nothing bigger.
gimme a while to look...do you mean N/A with H/C/& Intake?..or boosted 346?
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Originally Posted by automach1
So basically you had no other option but to go with whored out engines to keep up lol again 5.4 4v > ls1 6xx>5xx
What does that heap of yours run again?
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Just curious whats the highest rwhp stock cube'd LSX? 346. Nothing bigger.
Well over 500 on pump gas. Hell I'm 413rwhp and the engine is stock with bolt-ons. Cam only ls6 I've seen guys post 440rwhp. Cam only ls1's has been in the 9's. I don't really care about dyno #'s but I do like to see **** get down the track......ls's get down the track.
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Just curious whats the highest rwhp stock cube'd LSX? 346. Nothing bigger.
i will be honest with you here...there seems to be more confusion and argument's over who has the most powerful N/A 346 LS1 setup..seeing a few in the 550+ RWHP range meaning they are around the 600hp flywheel hp range...but here's a "Holy ****!" if there ever was one...this guy holds the 6 speed record for fastest N/A 6 speed LSX setup..he's running 8's...with a 3,250 lb F body and with ONLY 403 CI his N/A setup is makeing 925!!!!!! flywheel HP!!..SHEEEEEOT SON!!!!..403 is'nt that far away from 346 : ) http://www.streetlegaltv.com/feature...ng-lsx-camaro/
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@ 403cid isn't that far from 346cid. Holy ****
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Originally Posted by Stopsign32v
@ 403cid isn't that far from 346cid. Holy ****
of course YOU would chime in and say something like that jk ..a 403 guy..it's not like there is a 100+ CI difference..do you really think that extra 57 CI is what made the extra 300HP??? ..i mean really here..comon guy ...oh and BTW SAM (school of automotive machinist) have a N/A LSX record holding car with a 1,001 HP!!!...it's larger than the 403 but still..it's not a BBC or anything...is there any N/A modular Ford engines making 1,001 HP???....post proof and you will see me shut my mouth on this subject..for realies
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Originally Posted by ilovechevy1
gimme a while to look...do you mean N/A with H/C/& Intake?..or boosted 346?
N/A. displacement must remain at 346.
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
Just curious whats the highest rwhp stock cube'd LSX? 346. Nothing bigger.
522/440 thru th350 (I believe) and 9".

https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...4-10-11-a.html

525/??? also thru an A3 and 12-bolt.
http://m.modernhemi.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1436444

Of course thru an M6 and 10-bolt numbers would read significantly higher.
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