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The teksid 4.6 weighs about as much as an LS1 and is only a little taller, but it's just a little limited on 93.
Then again, it's not like 700whp isn't enough.
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modulars dont need asn extra weight alloance.
the fact is, the turbocharger inducer limits on the classes is the power limit.
a twin 80mm makes the same power on a 700cubic inch motor that it makes on a 281 ideally.
airflow is the limiter. and then rpms. then boost level required for the smaller motor to make the power.
LSX have no advantage over full race big block chevy. a 700inch prostock headed BBC OWNS ANY LSX.
somewhere along the way LSx fans forgot they are not the king. BBC and poncho BB is.
the fact is, the turbocharger inducer limits on the classes is the power limit.
a twin 80mm makes the same power on a 700cubic inch motor that it makes on a 281 ideally.
airflow is the limiter. and then rpms. then boost level required for the smaller motor to make the power.
LSX have no advantage over full race big block chevy. a 700inch prostock headed BBC OWNS ANY LSX.
somewhere along the way LSx fans forgot they are not the king. BBC and poncho BB is.
if anyone forgot that the BBC is more of an engine than an LSX anything then they are dumb...it does'nt matter what the platform is really...the larger CI engine WILL have more overall power potential..as a huge LS anything fan, even i know better than to say an LSX has an advantage over a BBC..because it does'nt lol
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Yeah, and there aren't any LS cars in the same division as John, like I said.
I don't think there's a single Pro Stock car running an LS1.
John made 2300fwhp. There are LSX's making more than that with twin turbos, but they don't weigh under 3200+lbs, let alone 2500lbs.
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Quick question for anyone who knows the answer: What kind of power has a turbo 4v 4.6l made on pump gas (with or w/o meth)?
I don't think there's a single Pro Stock car running an LS1.
John made 2300fwhp. There are LSX's making more than that with twin turbos, but they don't weigh under 3200+lbs, let alone 2500lbs.
Why? Because they aren't in Pro Stock.
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Quick question for anyone who knows the answer: What kind of power has a turbo 4v 4.6l made on pump gas (with or w/o meth)?
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yeah..i agree with you there...if anyone thinks the only reason there are no LSX cars in Pro stock is because they cant' make the power then they are HIGHLY mistaken. there are some bad *** 4.6's out there running 6's in full tube chassis cars..that's cool...but if someone is trying to argue there is no way an LSX can run those times then they are just ignorant..that's very cools that Ford owners push thier lil 4.6's that far..but if a 4.6 can do that..imagine what a 5.7 L and larger LSX's can do if someone who had the money really..i mean REALLY pushed them..this is no real test of what these engines can really do..there are too many weight differences and restrictions in those classses of cars..making it to where the person with the most powerful engine may not be the fastest car..i'd rather stick to more streetable car's in an argument like this..where car's have a closer selection of tires and simialr weights
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How come its always an excuses when the little 4.6 ran faster then the LSX engines. Well we could do that but we just didn't want to. No one has did it yet. I am sure many have tried just not got there yet. You guys wanted the fastest car using a modular engine and now its faster then ya'll you make excuses. HAHAHA!!!!!
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How come its always an excuses when the little 4.6 ran faster then the LSX engines. Well we could do that but we just didn't want to. No one has did it yet. I am sure many have tried just not got there yet. You guys wanted the fastest car using a modular engine and now its faster then ya'll you make excuses. HAHAHA!!!!!
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How come its always an excuses when the little 4.6 ran faster then the LSX engines. Well we could do that but we just didn't want to. No one has did it yet. I am sure many have tried just not got there yet. You guys wanted the fastest car using a modular engine and now its faster then ya'll you make excuses. HAHAHA!!!!!
Let me put it this way. John's car makes 2300hp. Do you really think a twin turbo LSX can't make that power? Well it has made more (try close to 3000). It's just never been put into a Pro Stock car.
BTW, I've always known about John's car. I asked nothing about the quickest mod motor but provided the "excuse."
The 4V Mod motor's and the LS engines have always been on equal ground. Some may deny it, but it's the truth.
Just to be a dick, since that's what I'm getting from others... What's the quickest full weight, non tube chassis, 4.6l mod motor? You know, apples to apples, since there are no tube chassis ls cars. If we're going to compare quickest times, might as well do it on equal ground. The quickest I could find was Sandy Wold, and they went high 7's. I'm sure it could go quicker, but NO ONE HAS DONE IT, they all went with the 5.4l (like MMR). Hey, that sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?
Just because some of the members on here swing hard from GM's nuts doesn't mean everyone else has to come off as a complete douche. This thread went to **** days ago.
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WHAT?! WHo is a black kettle. I am not even a kettle.
I haven't made any excuses of races I lost yet. Then again I haven't lost none in the 5.0. YET.
I got spanked twice in the G8 once to a C/H/I 02 Z28 before I had spray. Then once to a 400whp EVO when I wasn't using spray.
I haven't made any excuses of races I lost yet. Then again I haven't lost none in the 5.0. YET.
I got spanked twice in the G8 once to a C/H/I 02 Z28 before I had spray. Then once to a 400whp EVO when I wasn't using spray.
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Uh... No one HAS done it yet. It's an excuse, but it's a valid one. And no, no one has tried it that I know of, unless you know of anything otherwise.
Let me put it this way. John's car makes 2300hp. Do you really think a twin turbo LSX can't make that power? Well it has made more (try close to 3000). It's just never been put into a Pro Stock car.
BTW, I've always known about John's car. I asked nothing about the quickest mod motor but provided the "excuse."
The 4V Mod motor's and the LS engines have always been on equal ground. Some may deny it, but it's the truth.
Just to be a dick, since that's what I'm getting from others... What's the quickest full weight, non tube chassis, 4.6l mod motor? You know, apples to apples, since there are no tube chassis ls cars. If we're going to compare quickest times, might as well do it on equal ground. The quickest I could find was Sandy Wold, and they went high 7's. I'm sure it could go quicker, but NO ONE HAS DONE IT, they all went with the 5.4l (like MMR). Hey, that sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?
Just because some of the members on here swing hard from GM's nuts doesn't mean everyone else has to come off as a complete douche. This thread went to **** days ago.
Let me put it this way. John's car makes 2300hp. Do you really think a twin turbo LSX can't make that power? Well it has made more (try close to 3000). It's just never been put into a Pro Stock car.
BTW, I've always known about John's car. I asked nothing about the quickest mod motor but provided the "excuse."
The 4V Mod motor's and the LS engines have always been on equal ground. Some may deny it, but it's the truth.
Just to be a dick, since that's what I'm getting from others... What's the quickest full weight, non tube chassis, 4.6l mod motor? You know, apples to apples, since there are no tube chassis ls cars. If we're going to compare quickest times, might as well do it on equal ground. The quickest I could find was Sandy Wold, and they went high 7's. I'm sure it could go quicker, but NO ONE HAS DONE IT, they all went with the 5.4l (like MMR). Hey, that sounds awfully familiar, doesn't it?
Just because some of the members on here swing hard from GM's nuts doesn't mean everyone else has to come off as a complete douche. This thread went to **** days ago.
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I honestly can't tell y ou fastest car without tube chassis. I came from teh LS world to the mustang. SO I know all about LS engines. But when I went to buy a new car the camaro was just to heavy. The 5.0 was doing great with responding to mods. Only other option was a EVO X. But they want to much for them if ask me 35+ new. They weigh more then the older evo's also. I could got best deal on Camaro since I get multiple discounts. Military, USAA, Rebates, Employe discount. But it came down to the car isn't going as fast as it should for the power they are making. Plus the 5.0 was all around cheaper to mod.
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I honestly can't tell y ou fastest car without tube chassis. I came from teh LS world to the mustang. SO I know all about LS engines. But when I went to buy a new car the camaro was just to heavy. The 5.0 was doing great with responding to mods. Only other option was a EVO X. But they want to much for them if ask me 35+ new. They weigh more then the older evo's also. I could got best deal on Camaro since I get multiple discounts. Military, USAA, Rebates, Employe discount. But it came down to the car isn't going as fast as it should for the power they are making. Plus the 5.0 was all around cheaper to mod.
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Again, what's the fastest non-tube 4.6? You seem to be able find answers to everything else.
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WHAT?! WHo is a black kettle. I am not even a kettle.
I haven't made any excuses of races I lost yet. Then again I haven't lost none in the 5.0. YET.
I got spanked twice in the G8 once to a C/H/I 02 Z28 before I had spray. Then once to a 400whp EVO when I wasn't using spray.
I haven't made any excuses of races I lost yet. Then again I haven't lost none in the 5.0. YET.
I got spanked twice in the G8 once to a C/H/I 02 Z28 before I had spray. Then once to a 400whp EVO when I wasn't using spray.
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