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Old 07-30-2011, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by whatsnext
I do not know if this has been answered but i am sure it has been asked what about gear's?
It has stock gears with the stock mn12 transmission.
There's no need to itemize the different sections of the car... everything is as it was the day I got it.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
It has stock gears with the stock mn12 transmission.
There's no need to itemize the different sections of the car... everything is as it was the day I got it.
Ju1ce i was just going to say if people are saying you have gear's that would be a fairly easy one to set to rest that's all. Not that you would want to waste your time on it i know i wouldn't.
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When I was heads cam etc running 7.2s@96 I ran a bolt on 01 mustang gt, I would assume high 8@82 or so at best. Why? None of the other heads cam ls1 or the like could beat him in an 1/8 mile dig race.
I was on street tires he was on drag radials

We went from a dig. He jumped out about 2 lengths right off the hit before we really started moving. He continued to pull about another 1/2 car up to 45 or so where i stopped his pull. Around 60 i started coming back on him.. by 80-85 I was coming by him and put multiple lengths on him very easily.

My point, like juice said, if you get a jump on someone it is VERY hard to stop that pull and start reeling in and pass them. Usually the speed deficit has to be pretty wide between the two cars for it to happen in most normal races. From a roll with two similar HP/weight cars, its ALL about the hit. That could make a difference between you pulling the other car by 2 or losing by a fender. Reason being, never ever let a bike get a jump on you, race was over before you hit the gas.
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Originally Posted by Heater
You think???


I'm putting my car together right now and planning on running it on E85 and it will be N/A for while until I get bored with it and add gas.

E85 has benefits for N/A applications:

With enough compression you can actually pick up a tenth or two over race gas and it makes the engine run cooler.
Race gas around here is $12-$14 a gallon for the octane I need for my car; E85 is just over $3 a gallon.
I should say that I don't think it's worth it. It's not that you won't see a performance increase on an N/A engine it's just that the performance to cost isn't as appealing in comparison to a FI setup where the gains are higher. The cost is including injectors/pump(s)/rails, line, tuning time, availability of e85, logging and adjusting timing as e85 fluctuates, etc. If it's worth it then go for it. I know people do it, but it's not as prevalent in the NA world. Same goes for meth injection. If you like the expected gains for an NA setup and it's worth the cost to you then go for my man.

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Check out the link. Maybe it's a bit different from your platform, but the gains I'm seeing going to e85 are about >10whp
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...yno-sheet.html
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Originally Posted by lemons12
We went from a dig. He jumped out about 2 lengths right off the hit before we really started moving. He continued to pull about another 1/2 car up to 45 or so where i stopped his pull. Around 60 i started coming back on him.. by 80-85 I was coming by him and put multiple lengths on him very easily.
Similar story here, except it was with an LT1 car that runs 13.0s at 107 or so.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhOQxRxQL6o

He had drag radials, I did not. Wasn't grabbing traction until the 45 mph mark.
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Lol, you're going to need to have DR's on all the time now Nick.
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Momentum is hard to overcome. That's why my car continued to pull.
It's not hard when the chase car has close 100 more whp. Your pull never even slows, and your pulling from the jump. If these runs were closer I might believe it was a driver, but there is something not equal other than the driver.

I'm not trying to bash, please don't think I'm being a dick. Just stating my opinion.

Originally Posted by Ju1ce
It has stock gears with the stock mn12 transmission.
There's no need to itemize the different sections of the car... everything is as it was the day I got it.
Did you buy the car new? Just wondering if anything could have been done before you bought it.
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Originally Posted by Blwn_by_Twins
It's not hard when the chase car has close 100 more whp. Your pull never even slows, and your pulling from the jump. If these runs were closer I might believe it was a driver, but there is something not equal other than the driver.

I'm not trying to bash, please don't think I'm being a dick. Just stating my opinion.



Did you buy the car new? Just wondering if anything could have been done before you bought it.
Who has 100whp more than me??? I hope you're not talking about the C63... those make about 20whp more than my GTO...

There's NOTHING done to the car... it just made 345whp on a dynojet last week!
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I made 430rwhp through a stalled auto and weighed 3200race weight when I raced that bolt on gt that was full weight. Would surprise me if he made 300rwhp. That would put me 400# liter and more than 125+rwhp, I didn't pass him until 60mph.
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Originally Posted by willizm
I should say that I don't think it's worth it. It's not that you won't see a performance increase on an N/A engine it's just that the performance to cost isn't as appealing in comparison to a FI setup where the gains are higher. The cost is including injectors/pump(s)/rails, line, tuning time, availability of e85, logging and adjusting timing as e85 fluctuates, etc. If it's worth it then go for it. I know people do it, but it's not as prevalent in the NA world. Same goes for meth injection. If you like the expected gains for an NA setup and it's worth the cost to you then go for my man.

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Check out the link. Maybe it's a bit different from your platform, but the gains I'm seeing going to e85 are about >10whp
https://ls1tech.com/forums/dynamomet...yno-sheet.html
My application is carbed and I already have the bigger fuel pump; just have to buy a steel screened fuel filter and the E85 Carb. I won't be driving this car on the street regularly since I have to get the E85 from Blwn_by_Twins neck of the woods...and that's a drive from where I live.
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You guys don't have e85 in Wilmy?
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Originally Posted by Blwn_by_Twins
You guys don't have e85 in Wilmy?

No.

Crazy right?
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Who has 100whp more than me??? I hope you're not talking about the C63... those make about 20whp more than my GTO...

There's NOTHING done to the car... it just made 345whp on a dynojet last week!
I said CLOSE to 100hp. 380 and a Mustang Dyno is a hell of a lot more than 345 on a DJ.
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Originally Posted by Heater
No.

Crazy right?
Wow. I guess tech we don't have it either. Have to go to Coonway and its only sold at a station that sells 116 too. lol
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I noticed quite the difference from e85 vs 93 octane on a 12:5:1-13:1 CR 5.7 motor. Id suggest it 100%.
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Originally Posted by Blwn_by_Twins
I said CLOSE to 100hp. 380 and a Mustang Dyno is a hell of a lot more than 345 on a DJ.
Who made 380 on a Mustang dyno?
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Originally Posted by Ju1ce
Who made 380 on a Mustang dyno?
My friend just ran 13.8 in his 05 gto.. Psst .. I think he may need the "ju1ce" mod ..lmao
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Originally Posted by Blwn_by_Twins
Wow. I guess tech we don't have it either. Have to go to Coonway and its only sold at a station that sells 116 too. lol
Bet that's the station I'm talking about getting it from. We rolled down to Mustang Week last weekend and saw a station on the corner with a big E85 sign; the back way to Myrtle Beach.

I didn't know it had 116 too
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Originally Posted by Theblacknightls1
My friend just ran 13.8 in his 05 gto.. Psst .. I think he may need the "ju1ce" mod ..lmao
He'll get there... my first pass ever was a 13.7.
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