06 GTO vs 392 hemi challenger
08-13-2011, 03:47 PM
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I said before it was a drivers race. I didn't agree with the 392 all running low 12's. Hell not all 5's run low 12's. Not all SS run 12.5. 392/5.0 mid 12's on average. With some higher ups cause different things like high DA's, bad track prep, poor drivers. Camaro high 12's average.
Now do we want to discuss the Boss?
Now do we want to discuss the Boss?
08-13-2011, 05:01 PM
#342
Yes I am..
I said how it run close to the 5.0/ss. They both have went 8's. What new challenger has?
I said the 5.0 also leads everything right now. Bolt on times, blower times. And my bad can't say C/H/I times cause no one has pushed the 5.0 that way. But the fastest bolt on 5.0 has beat the fastest C/H/I SS. Hennessey did bolt ons on a 392. BUt show no track times for it. Just a dyno.
The GT00 has went low 11's with just a tire swap. Yep still no 392/SS has. Best bet will be the ZL1. BUt then the GT500 gets a bump in power next year to over 600hp. Rumor is a 392SC package will be out from Dodge making 570hp.
The 5.0 has went 12.2 vs 12.3. Yep technically speaking the 5.0 is faster stock to stock. Best times compared.
And yes the Chally will need more then bolt ons ro just a stall/tune in the end to run with the SS/5.0. As mention they have shown they can go 8's. Even though the SS didn't do the 8's or low 9 it has with a LS3. 1 was a 427 and other was a LS9.
I said how it run close to the 5.0/ss. They both have went 8's. What new challenger has?
I said the 5.0 also leads everything right now. Bolt on times, blower times. And my bad can't say C/H/I times cause no one has pushed the 5.0 that way. But the fastest bolt on 5.0 has beat the fastest C/H/I SS. Hennessey did bolt ons on a 392. BUt show no track times for it. Just a dyno.
The GT00 has went low 11's with just a tire swap. Yep still no 392/SS has. Best bet will be the ZL1. BUt then the GT500 gets a bump in power next year to over 600hp. Rumor is a 392SC package will be out from Dodge making 570hp.
The 5.0 has went 12.2 vs 12.3. Yep technically speaking the 5.0 is faster stock to stock. Best times compared.
And yes the Chally will need more then bolt ons ro just a stall/tune in the end to run with the SS/5.0. As mention they have shown they can go 8's. Even though the SS didn't do the 8's or low 9 it has with a LS3. 1 was a 427 and other was a LS9.
08-13-2011, 05:19 PM
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sounds about right, never heard of a stock one around going any faster then that. the blue one is always at infineon really old guy, hes a cool dude
08-13-2011, 10:12 PM
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I still dont believe the 12.3 run from a bone stock auto 5.0, no way anyone is going to change my mind without a video sorry. If that car had anywhere near a 12.3 in it there would be at least 3-4 other guys that could replicate it in the same conditions.
08-14-2011, 02:44 AM
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Also if there was a video how would we know nothing is done to the car? That can be said for every video there is.
08-14-2011, 04:52 PM
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2) The A6 in the Mustang is so close in performance to the 6spd manual that it's ridiculous. It's not like we're comparing an A4/M6 F-body.
08-14-2011, 05:08 PM
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From what ive seen at both local tracks and heard from owners themselves, there is about a .2-3/2-3mph difference between the A6 and 6M with both cars being driven to their fullest potential, roughly the same gap between an LS1 A4 vs M6.
08-14-2011, 05:16 PM
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There is a mph difference partly because of the inherent power difference between an automatic and manual transmission. But from a dig, they are real close. But unlike the A4/M6 F-body comparison where consistency is most of the reason the two are so close, the gear ratios in the A6 are spaced more evenly (similar to the M6), and the ratios are closer (also similar to the M6). Of course both of them are LIGHT YEARS ahead of the old AOD/AOD-E/4R70-W transmissions that used to come in Mustangs.
08-14-2011, 05:42 PM
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The 6-speed guys can launch harder. That's where the advantage is at. If a guy can hook a high rpm dump on street rubber, he'll get those 60 fts that a stock-stall car just can't match. Typical times on a good night here is 12.7-12.9 for 6M and 12.9-13.1 for the A6 guys. I heard a stall really wakes those A6's up tho.
08-14-2011, 06:34 PM
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The 6-speed guys can launch harder. That's where the advantage is at. If a guy can hook a high rpm dump on street rubber, he'll get those 60 fts that a stock-stall car just can't match. Typical times on a good night here is 12.7-12.9 for 6M and 12.9-13.1 for the A6 guys. I heard a stall really wakes those A6's up tho.
for 1 guy to get a 12.3 in a bone stock A6 dosent add up. Im willing to bet he had DR's and some kind of tune Last edited by NiteRiderWS6; 08-14-2011 at 06:45 PM.
08-14-2011, 11:23 PM
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08-15-2011, 11:27 PM
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Cause if that the case I haven't seen any stock SRT8 of any kind run better then mid 13's to high 14's at our track or at SAR. SO I guess all the SRT8's are mid 13 sec cars. Watched a SC 2010 SRT8 Chally run 12.7-12.9's all night one night. SO I geuss they need a blower to run high 12's.
EVery track is going to have different times these cars run cause of several things. I watched a Convertible auto 5.0 run 12.8-13.1 all night after some practice. Watched a manual run 13.3-13.6 all night on the same night. Both stock cars. The guy in the manual couldn't shift and couldn't launch his car. A week later the guy in the manual was running 12.5's in his car with some practice and still bone stock. The convt. was running 12.3-12.5 with a tune.
08-16-2011, 01:42 AM
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This is about the DA I see as well. And as mentioned I have yet to see a SRT8 anything run a 12 bone stock. Seen a SC SRT8 run high 12's. So does that mean they all do? I have also yet to see a C6Z06 run better then high 11's low 12's does that mean they don't do better then that stock? Hell I still have yet to see a C/H/I LS1 Fbody run better then 11.9. SO guess that fastest list on here for the ones that was gutted and everything going 10's is not true at all. I mean they don't have video's. And then with a video they could be hiding NOS.
08-16-2011, 03:40 AM
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SO they don't run better then that at your track so they haven't did it no where?
Cause if that the case I haven't seen any stock SRT8 of any kind run better then mid 13's to high 14's at our track or at SAR. SO I guess all the SRT8's are mid 13 sec cars. Watched a SC 2010 SRT8 Chally run 12.7-12.9's all night one night. SO I geuss they need a blower to run high 12's.
EVery track is going to have different times these cars run cause of several things. I watched a Convertible auto 5.0 run 12.8-13.1 all night after some practice. Watched a manual run 13.3-13.6 all night on the same night. Both stock cars. The guy in the manual couldn't shift and couldn't launch his car. A week later the guy in the manual was running 12.5's in his car with some practice and still bone stock. The convt. was running 12.3-12.5 with a tune.
Cause if that the case I haven't seen any stock SRT8 of any kind run better then mid 13's to high 14's at our track or at SAR. SO I guess all the SRT8's are mid 13 sec cars. Watched a SC 2010 SRT8 Chally run 12.7-12.9's all night one night. SO I geuss they need a blower to run high 12's.
EVery track is going to have different times these cars run cause of several things. I watched a Convertible auto 5.0 run 12.8-13.1 all night after some practice. Watched a manual run 13.3-13.6 all night on the same night. Both stock cars. The guy in the manual couldn't shift and couldn't launch his car. A week later the guy in the manual was running 12.5's in his car with some practice and still bone stock. The convt. was running 12.3-12.5 with a tune.
08-16-2011, 03:45 AM
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SO they don't run better then that at your track so they haven't did it no where?
Cause if that the case I haven't seen any stock SRT8 of any kind run better then mid 13's to high 14's at our track or at SAR. SO I guess all the SRT8's are mid 13 sec cars. Watched a SC 2010 SRT8 Chally run 12.7-12.9's all night one night. SO I geuss they need a blower to run high 12's.
EVery track is going to have different times these cars run cause of several things. I watched a Convertible auto 5.0 run 12.8-13.1 all night after some practice. Watched a manual run 13.3-13.6 all night on the same night. Both stock cars. The guy in the manual couldn't shift and couldn't launch his car. A week later the guy in the manual was running 12.5's in his car with some practice and still bone stock. The convt. was running 12.3-12.5 with a tune.
Cause if that the case I haven't seen any stock SRT8 of any kind run better then mid 13's to high 14's at our track or at SAR. SO I guess all the SRT8's are mid 13 sec cars. Watched a SC 2010 SRT8 Chally run 12.7-12.9's all night one night. SO I geuss they need a blower to run high 12's.
EVery track is going to have different times these cars run cause of several things. I watched a Convertible auto 5.0 run 12.8-13.1 all night after some practice. Watched a manual run 13.3-13.6 all night on the same night. Both stock cars. The guy in the manual couldn't shift and couldn't launch his car. A week later the guy in the manual was running 12.5's in his car with some practice and still bone stock. The convt. was running 12.3-12.5 with a tune.